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Zaragon 05-18-2015 07:08 PM
I kind of wonder if they are even able to do this. Both legally and financially.

Phantom Stranger 05-18-2015 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaragon (Post 520560)
I kind of wonder if they are even able to do this. Both legally and financially.
I can answer the first part of that, which in turn will answer the second. Chaiyo was a company Tsuburaya Productions collaborated with for two Ultraman movies back in the mid 70s. The president of Chaiyo claimed that in 1976, the company was given distribution rights for everything(or the first 6 series of) Ultraman, outside of Japan, by Noboru Tsuburaya, in exchange for a loan. Now, the contract did not clearly state how much the loan was, or even if it was monetary in the first place. But that's irrelevant because both Japanese and Thai courts accepted it as legal binding, simply because the Hanko(personal seal) of the late Noboru Tsuburaya was on the document.

So basically, Tsuburaya Productions got screwed over by the court system because someone was able to reproduce(or steal) a stamp for a document that no one properly looked over before accepting it. When it was looked over, it was full of many errors. Like Ultra Q being titled Ultaman 1. Tsuburaya Prod. and Tsuburaya Enterprises, being used. Neither were ever used by the company.


It's been a massive cluster in the court system for years now. Not helping is it isn't exactly clear what Chaiyo can and cannot do, even to them. They tried making Ultras of their own which resulted in an infringement lawsuit that Tsuburaya won. Merchandise like statues and such is another thing that isn't clear.

GoseiWonder 05-18-2015 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger (Post 520584)
I can answer the first part of that, which in turn will answer the second. Chaiyo was a company Tsuburaya Productions collaborated with for two Ultraman movies back in the mid 70s. The president of Chaiyo claimed that in 1976, the company was given distribution rights for everything(or the first 6 series of) Ultraman, outside of Japan, by Noboru Tsuburaya, in exchange for a loan. Now, the contract did not clearly state how much the loan was, or even if it was monetary in the first place. But that's irrelevant because both Japanese and Thai courts accepted it as legal binding, simply because the Hanko(personal seal) of the late Noboru Tsuburaya was on the document.

So basically, Tsuburaya Productions got screwed over by the court system because someone was able to reproduce(or steal) a stamp for a document that no one properly looked over before accepting it. When it was looked over, it was full of many errors. Like Ultra Q being titled Ultaman 1. Tsuburaya Prod. and Tsuburaya Enterprises, being used. Neither were ever used by the company.


It's been a massive cluster in the court system for years now. Not helping is it isn't exactly clear what Chaiyo can and cannot do, even to them. They tried making Ultras of their own which resulted in an infringement lawsuit that Tsuburaya won. Merchandise like statues and such is another thing that isn't clear.
TL;DR lots of vague legalese stuff that only a Rashomon-style hearing could solve.

Zaragon 05-18-2015 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger (Post 520584)
I can answer the first part of that, which in turn will answer the second. Chaiyo was a company Tsuburaya Productions collaborated with for two Ultraman movies back in the mid 70s. The president of Chaiyo claimed that in 1976, the company was given distribution rights for everything(or the first 6 series of) Ultraman, outside of Japan, by Noboru Tsuburaya, in exchange for a loan. Now, the contract did not clearly state how much the loan was, or even if it was monetary in the first place. But that's irrelevant because both Japanese and Thai courts accepted it as legal binding, simply because the Hanko(personal seal) of the late Noboru Tsuburaya was on the document.

So basically, Tsuburaya Productions got screwed over by the court system because someone was able to reproduce(or steal) a stamp for a document that no one properly looked over before accepting it. When it was looked over, it was full of many errors. Like Ultra Q being titled Ultaman 1. Tsuburaya Prod. and Tsuburaya Enterprises, being used. Neither were ever used by the company.


It's been a massive cluster in the court system for years now. Not helping is it isn't exactly clear what Chaiyo can and cannot do, even to them. They tried making Ultras of their own which resulted in an infringement lawsuit that Tsuburaya won. Merchandise like statues and such is another thing that isn't clear.
I'm already quite aware of the case, I apologize if I made it seem like I didn't. It's the tangled mess resulting from Chaiyo's BS that makes me skeptical of whether or not they are actually allowed to do this.

I don't expect that the blu-rays or the movies will come to fruition though. I don't even think the DVD box set these bozos announced a long while back came into production either.


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