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vin13ish 06-06-2016 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 615426)
Decent episode. To be honest I liked the MOTW-plot more than TheWorld's debut. Because Trumpus was fun and the idea behind him was neat (although he heavily suffers from "I tell everyone my weakness right away"-syndrome).

I liked Selas part in this episode and the solution to the card problem was fun too.

Zuyoh TheWorld... cool... I guess? He does nothing but taunt the Zyuohgers and showing off his gimmicks. Not very interesting. Also the way he always presses the button on his flashlight the second time with his upper leg is kinda silly. In fact, the whole "Changing forms with the flashlight"-thing is stupid.

Why not flip up/down the mask manually like Yamato? And just use the flashlight for initial transformation and summoning the cubes like the Zyuohgers do it?

And his fishing rod… I’m not against using a fishing rod as a weapon. Not after reading Hunter x Hunter. But the problem here is that all of it is done with CGI and once he goes into close combat the rubbery nature of the prop makes it look funny in a bad way.

So yeah gimmick-wise TheWorld does not blow me away. Although admittedly the "All Beasts Unleashed"-thing is kinda awesome. Anyways, I hope his characterization makes him more interesting, his setup does indicate that it could be the case.
Well we hasn't have an evil sixth ranger since Abaranger which was 2003! and plus, he does provide less lighter scene and more serious scene

You don't know how he went through! What if he feel being indirectly responsible of death of 3 Zyumans and tried to get away from Zyuohgers (Sans Yamato) because he didn't want them to suffer same fate as 3 zyumans!

Kiwami 06-06-2016 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vin13ish (Post 615430)
Well we hasn't have an evil sixth ranger since Abaranger which was 2003!
You keep saying that, and I know it's a thing, but that changes nothing about his initial appereance being boring to me. You can introduce an Evil Ranger way better.

For starters, don't cramp his debut into the last 5 minutes of a MOTW-episode.

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Originally Posted by vin13ish (Post 615430)
and plus, he does provide less lighter scene and more serious scene
There was nothing serious about this episode though, he was just knocking all the Zyuohgers out. I know he will bring some more serious stories, but I’m not gonna go lightly on a sub-par debut just because the character has potential.

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Originally Posted by vin13ish (Post 615430)
You don't know how he went through!
What he went through is what I'm thinking you wanted to say, and yeah I kinda have an idea about that. That’s what I'm looking forward to, seeing more of his backstory.

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What if he feel being indirectly responsible of death of 3 Zyumans
Are they even dead? Pretty sure Genis keeps them prisoner and in a redemption-arc TheWorld will free the Zyuohmen and earn their powers so that they will lend them to him permanently.

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and tried to get away from Zyuohgers (Sans Yamato) because he didn't want them to suffer same fate as 3 zyumans!
Yeah that did not happen here. He's currently brainwashed so he feels nothing. And even if he did, beating them to a bloody pulp does not equal "trying to get away".

Matrixbeast 06-06-2016 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vin13ish (Post 615430)
Well we hasn't have an evil sixth ranger since Abaranger which was 2003! and plus, he does provide less lighter scene and more serious scene

You don't know how he went through! What if he feel being indirectly responsible of death of 3 Zyumans and tried to get away from Zyuohgers (Sans Yamato) because he didn't want them to suffer same fate as 3 zyumans!
What if none of that happens?
We're all excited for the World, but you've basically forged an entire story on him that might not even happen, based on a single scene...

Helios 06-06-2016 03:41 PM
ZyuohTheWorld is pretty cool. I'm just curious to see how he'll join forces with the Zyuohgers. I hate how is back is striped though. It looks cool on the front with the three animals, but it looks really weird on the back. I wish they just kept it black.

Gold Ninja Drive 06-06-2016 03:57 PM
Another pretty good episode. The MoTW plot was unique (unless it isn't, I'm not exactly a Sentai Expert), we got more Sela backstory, and The World's intro did make me want to see more of him in the future.

Though, I don't get why Sela didn't tell the kid outright about the cards. I feel it just caused unnecessary drama. And yes, the fishing pole/staff props did look ridiculous in action. Just flopping around all over the place, it somewhat took away from the action.

I did at least figure out why it's a fishing pole, however. It seems like he's modeled after (and acts like) a hunter, specifically for sport, and his weapons seems to switch from a rifle (land/sky) to a fishing rod (water/ocean). Heck, I Googled "Big-Game Hunter" and the Wikipedia page for it lists many of the animals the Zyuohgers represent, including The World himself, as ones more commonly hunted.

Matrixbeast 06-06-2016 04:20 PM
I think Sela didn't tell the boy because she didn't want to scare him even more in such a bad situation, so she instead tried to stall as they tried to come up with a plan.

Leo Novum 06-07-2016 02:15 AM
Mario to the rescue. Simple solution to a simple problem.

Sela was the MVZ. We now know more about her than any other zyuman which is a good thing in my book.

I have nothing against the use of a fishing rod as a weapon ever since I've seen Gon Freecs (Hunter X Hunter) but ZaWarudo's fishing rod looks so fake that I feel slightly disappointed by it. He is a little too gimmicky, that's all I'm saying. Although his overall design is quite good, even his All Beasts Unleashed form.

I was half expecting KaixaBird to rescue the Zyuogers. Doesn't he have the sixth Cube? Are we going to have seven Zyuogers? I hope so.

toughfighter83 06-07-2016 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Leo Novum (Post 615564)

I was half expecting KaixaBird to rescue the Zyuogers. Doesn't he have the sixth Cube? Are we going to have seven Zyuogers? I hope so.
im starting to think kaixabird will probably rescue zyuohtheworld meaning since he's controlled by azard's cube, i think the only thing that will break the cube's control over misao is the power from the sixth cube the bird man is holding,

i wouldnt be surprised if it's that because it will make story more interesting and them accepting they cant go back and probably a twist in the story they'll probably be another cube meaning the Deathgalians probably have the other link cube.

Boshusan 06-08-2016 04:52 AM
I just hope ZaWarudo will stay an antagonist for more than 2episodes in order to keep things interesting. Starninger was a bit disappointing int this regard in the previous serie.

RacingWolf7957 06-08-2016 02:02 PM
The episode is super awesome, I would watch it all day :)


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