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Pineapple924

06-05-2017 05:57 PM

Oddly enough, the thing that got to me this episode is how useful the Proto-Gashats are.

For some reason, I had only mentally associated them as plot devices for how the Riders were going to revive everyone, but Evil-Kiriya actually using them to transform and fight, kind of blows my mind a little.

It's like in Ghost if the Ore/Specter/Necrom Eyecons never existed and the riders had to use whatever form change they had to fight.
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Originally Posted by Handro Dilar (Post 686902)

Who would have thought that Graphite was a filthy cake thief?

Well Graphite already took Saki's life away, so taking over Hiiro's quirk of eating sweets is really just... Icing on the cake.

Spearichu

06-05-2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple924 (Post 687055)

Well Graphite already took Saki's life away, so taking over Hiiro's quirk of eating sweets is really just... Icing on the cake.

This reminds me long ago in another episode thread that I technically threatened you with me smashing your door down with a hammer. Now with what you just said I better keep my word. So I will be seeing you real soon. ;)

AHHHHH!!!!! *swings Dogga Hammer around and runs through my wall*

Dormamu

06-06-2017 08:12 AM

Well, this episode was intense. Masamune is too intense, Kuroto is two tacos short of a combination plate, and Emu is way too focused on upholding everyone's smiles. I do applaud him for not changing his character and having him join the Parad Parade.

I think I'd feel a little more saddened than I already am for Hiiro, except they've managed to turn him into a Mary Sue. And maybe it's wrong but I had more feeling for Graphites' sacrifice.

ShinGi

06-06-2017 03:05 PM

Hiiros actor is really great, he has become my favorite part of the show. Saki revival was pretty creepy with her repeating the same line over and over again. The little glimpse of Gemdeus was pretty cool as well. He looks awesome.

Toxic Blade

06-06-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dormamu (Post 687125)

I think I'd feel a little more saddened than I already am for Hiiro, except they've managed to turn him into a Mary Sue. And maybe it's wrong but I had more feeling for Graphites' sacrifice.

I'm not sure how Hiiro's a Mary Sue. This episode emphasized what a flawed person he is.

AgileSiamang7

06-06-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dormamu (Post 687125)

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Originally Posted by Toxic Blade (Post 687189)

I'm not sure how Hiiro's a Mary Sue. This episode emphasized what a flawed person he is.

Was about to say, he not only can't beat Emu is Emu is being serious, but is seen only as sympathetic, but still needing to be taken down.

If he was portrayed as a Gary Sue, Emu and co. would be shamed for disagreeing with his position, he'd be able to beat Emu even when he's being serious, and he'd have guilted Cronus into giving him Saki back fully.

What's actually presented is just a sad, guilt-ridden man making a mistake that keeps his love interest safe for the moment.

Byg42

06-07-2017 08:00 AM

You know, that whole scene where Hiiro opens up about his grief over Saki's death, how he blames himself over it, how he thinks he can't be a doctor until he gets her back (though him literally just ignoring the patient seems a bit too 180) is pretty good. It then gets followed up by the incredibly dumb scene where the group just lets him go. Like why, what justifiable reason is there for them to just let him leave like that especially when he had Emu/Kiriya Gamer Driver in hand?

This episodes use of the Game World, a concept that had only been introduced to us back in episode 30, really brings to mind how Ex-Aid doesn't do a great job at explaning the inner workings of its mechanics. Just what exactly is the Game World? Is it where the Bugsters originated from? Why does it contain the data of those infected with the Bugster Virus? Considering how the Stage Select function works, does it have any relation to that?

Seeing Parad and Graphite working together in this episode is pretty cool since we never got to see much of that because of Graphite getting kiiled so early. They are kinda like the Ex-Aid/Brave duo of the Bugsters in a sense.

Using Kiriya as an example of how Masamune is able to bring someone back to life is actually a neat way to both revive him and have Hiiro still work for Masamune.

Kiwami

06-07-2017 08:13 AM

Great episode, shit's really about to go down soon.

Had a bit of a location DÃ©jÃ*-vu again - I've seen the underground caverns where Emu and Hiiro fight in the Kamen Rider 3 movie and I think it's also a part of Helheim in Gaim- specifically the cavern where Gaim meets the Overlords and Kaito transform into Baron Lemon Energy.

I think I've seen it in other stuff to but I don't remember more.

Dormamu

06-07-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxic Blade (Post 687189)

I'm not sure how Hiiro's a Mary Sue. This episode emphasized what a flawed person he is.

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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7 (Post 687208)

Yes, but his character has been portrayed, even in the specials as this perfect doctor who is the pinnacle of all. It's only been now that his underlying motive has become a hurdle for Emu. You're right, he isn't being chastised for his desire, but they're also being a little too accommodating. AgileSiamang, I like that last part of your statement.

ShinGi

06-07-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Byg42 (Post 687237)

You know, that whole scene where Hiiro opens up about his grief over Saki's death, how he blames himself over it, how he thinks he can't be a doctor until he gets her back (though him literally just ignoring the patient seems a bit too 180) is pretty good. It then gets followed up by the incredibly dumb scene where the group just lets him go. Like why, what justifiable reason is there for them to just let him leave like that especially when he had Emu/Kiriya Gamer Driver in hand?

This episodes use of the Game World, a concept that had only been introduced to us back in episode 30, really brings to mind how Ex-Aid doesn't do a great job at explaning the inner workings of its mechanics. Just what exactly is the Game World? Is it where the Bugsters originated from? Why does it contain the data of those infected with the Bugster Virus? Considering how the Stage Select function works, does it have any relation to that?

Seeing Parad and Graphite working together in this episode is pretty cool since we never got to see much of that because of Graphite getting kiiled so early. They are kinda like the Ex-Aid/Brave duo of the Bugsters in a sense.

Using Kiriya as an example of how Masamune is able to bring someone back to life is actually a neat way to both revive him and have Hiiro still work for Masamune.

The Game World also appears in Chou Super Hero Taisen, and the Gorider special. http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Game_World

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