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Ape	11-26-2017 11:07 AM

Personally I think Kamen Rider Musclebrain was a more appropriate name...

Helios

11-26-2017 11:21 AM

I wonder how long until everyone learns that Gentoku is Rogue. I’m really hoping to learn who Stalk is next week because this has gone on for too long.

Omnikaiser

11-26-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Annuga (Post 702232)

Wait a sec
Last episode said there were 3 more Fullbottles needed for Pandora's Box
Sento got Train which leaves 2 and the preview shows OctopusLight.
Conclusion: We're gonna learn about the Box soon

Considering the timing of it, it's most likely related to the sparkling power up.

Ape	11-26-2017 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Omnikaiser (Post 702238)

Considering the timing of it, it's most likely related to the sparkling power up.

This would make a lot of sense considering Sparkling is supposed to be able to use all the form weapons.

GoldenXtreme

11-26-2017 12:32 PM

I'm amused that they pulled an Ex-Aid and have removed the opening so they can have MORE PLOT.

But yeah, the nonstop government conspiracy is just continuing deeper. The next episode kind of feels like the start of a new leg of the show, so I'm excited to see where things go now that we are beyond the prologue.

The Chaos Entity

11-26-2017 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annuga (Post 702232)

Wait a sec
Last episode said there were 3 more Fullbottles needed for Pandora's Box
Sento got Train which leaves 2 and the preview shows OctopusLight.
Conclusion: We're gonna learn about the Box soon

No. Sento's had Light for ages (you can see it in, like Episode 3 or something), and it WAS stolen from him (you can see it in the hole in the wall) so it can't count as one of the three needed - ditto Densha, as Faust already had it. The three needed are probably Octopus, Phoenix, and Robot (considering the Toy Catalogue confirms PhoenixRobo's presence in the TV series in December, and that the Robot Sclash Jelly is Grease's Transformation Trinket).

VoidinToku

11-26-2017 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Omnikaiser (Post 702204)

Ep12 thoughts. It feels like an Arc just ended and a new one start next week.

- The Sento and Utsumi moments were very nice at the start of the episode. I didn't expect it announces Utsumi ends though.

- Sawa's father. A new name to add to the cast. I bet he isn't dead and will appear at some point. Or maybe he did already but the face change thing hides him.

- Sawa was badass. didn't expect her to have action scenes.

- Utsumi becoming Fake NightRogue means he had some Hazard level at some point. Maybe he was Build first real candidate but failed at some point.

- Nabeshima returning is great. The only 2 names he could say shocking Sento would be "Gentoku Himuro" or "Isurugi Souichi". But I guess a possibility of Katsuragi asking Nabeshima "Kill me and frame Banjo" isn't out of the question yet.

- Stalk appearance at the new Faust location + the preview for next week almost guarantee the owner being BloodStark now. And if it really is, then my reaction will be the same as Sento : "This is the worst..."

EDIT : oh and the last shot before the preview start is weird as hell. it points at a jar full of coffee beans.
OWNEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRR T_T

Shouchi's way of speaking does match stark just like Gentoku as Rogue.

zenstrive

11-26-2017 08:42 PM

See, I told you Stalk is most probably Owner.
I bet there will be one episode solely focusing on him since he has been away for like two episodes.
I was surprised that Sawa can took down four highly trained guards and then break the glass BACK first. My female Kamen Rider alert is tingling!

Spearichu

11-27-2017 02:40 PM

There is a lot of death and suicide in Build. Damn was this good. I got nothing else to say other than that Build is a damn good show.

MaskedRiderAsakura

11-28-2017 06:16 PM

A thought just occurred to me....what if Utsumi is Kamen Rider Grease?

He's robot/machine based. What if he survives, but needs his body repaired Winter Soldier-style and comes back as a Rider?

IDK, there's nothing really concrete there, but I don't know how much I buy BloodStalk becoming Grease simply based on the naming. Night Rogue becomes Kamen Rider Rogue (most likely), but BloodStalk takes on an entirely new name (unless it's a misdirection of some sort)?

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