That's kinda how I felt. The worst part of OOO for me was that, until Maki became a villain, I never felt it was going anywhere, they were never making any progress. It seemed like for every medal Eiji took from a Greeed, he lost one (or worse, two). That status quo rarely changed.
Contrasting to Kuuga and W, where after each storyarc there was one less Grongi or Dopant to worry about, they were progressing towards an end goal. But I still liked OOO.

But Fourze? So far I really enjoy it. I'm on 10, I think? I like the gang, though each one seems to have set aside their differences pretty quickly after having their arc and joining the club. Except for Kengo, he's still a bit of a jerk. But since the locker's gone missing and he's trapped alone on teh moon, I'm guessing he'll be a little bit friendlier to everyone once they band together to save him.

Also, the Scorpio Zodiart is freaking awesome! I need a Figuart of the main Zodiarts. Also the Unicorn one was pretty cool too.

The lack of character growth is something that's been lacking since Double, so I'm not going to harp on the characters becoming buddy-buddy 5 minutes after they get over their problems.

I agree with the lack of progress for OOO. As much as I loved the series (It had a great start and end), Eiji didn't change a bit throughout the course of the series and the middle of the series, until Maki became a villain and Ankh's whole story arc, just felt like padding.

Its funny because nothing changes between Kengo and the rest of the gang for another... thirteen or so episodes...

Huh, that's interesting. And not necessarily a bad thing.

From my perspective. Totally is, because he goes through various tasking tasks that attempt to force him to get along with the KRC, but alas his character flaw remains true. It gets annoying.

Honestly, I feel that the show suffers from having too large of a cast and in X episode I feel that Y and Z should have left. There is no reason for them to be there. Especially since Y lost its title and Z is pretty useless except when it uses the ABC and even then J pretty much proved that it can use ABC very well on its own.

It really just irks me that lately Kamen Rider has an issue with letting a cast member go. Like in OOO when D was supposed to die, and yet they through a hat off and said "Oh, by the way, I'm totally fine minus the whole plot point in my body... Yeah I should probably not be here for a handful of episodes, because of because."

Just like in Den-O, when they couldn't afford the Actors Actresses, they should have just nix'd X instead of replacing it with a child actor. -le sigh-


Also. Do ho ho spoilers.

Den-O is different. Her story and plot relevance hadn't even started yet. Nixing her would've ultimately been a bad decision.

Anyway, how can Kengo having a flaw get annoying?

Hey! Don't spoil Den-O or Fourze for me! Actually, your Fourze comment is cryptic enough, but unfortunately, I think I know what you're talking about with Den-O. :(

But after the end of episode 12 last night, I am surprised that Kengo is going to go back to being a jerk, because he seemed pretty ready to be cool with everyone from now on.

OK after some work I finally caught up to Fourze. Watch out for spoilers everyone!

I really like what I've seen so far. For one thing, the non-Rider characters are all very interesting, and the show does a great job of creating a believable environment in Amanogawa High School. All the Zodiarts have interesting stories, and the fact that some of them are recurrent characters makes it very fresh.

As of now, the current story is getting really exciting. The next episode can't come sooner enough.

I foresee this as being a Toku series I'll treasure in the future.

I'm glad you're enjoying it ^^

Fourze is the best kamen rider show ever

I just love ther idea of switches ....idk why lol !

Fourze is the first Kamen Rider show I've ever really sat down and watched ... and I'm loving it. It started great, had a really really REALLY slow middle, but has picked up and is exciting as hell to watch. Now that they've gotten past the whole Meteor thing, I'm a little afraid how they're going to handle the rest of the show ... as Meteor and his secret identity to the group bit was something that kept me watching as Tomoko got closer and closer to discovering it.

I'm kinda with Kickback, that that was almost the appeal of Fourze, is that weird mystery sub-plot going on. However, it leads to less obnoxious scenes of "WHERE ARE YOU GOIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG?! Y U SO METEOR?", The only downside, is that they turned the very... Bi-polar Ryusei, into this weird... Cockblocking pushover.

It's an interesting Contrast, but without him hiding his identity... the drama factor was really removed from the series... Leaving, either plot to develop, or... an underwhelming Villian revealing itself, showing this his plan is to... Destroy the earth, or something silly like... he has never gotten a proper hug.

The fact that the Chairman has sat back this entire time really dissapoints me, I feel that we have this intense villian just waiting to show it's true colour at any moment... yet, we just end up seeing other horoscopes, because of because.

That being said, this show needs more evil elements... especially with 17 epsidoes left... which I'm sure the next five, are going to be a sub-plot about the fixed points, and then four episode arc about another Horoscope that isn't about the main leader, but instead someone who ends up stealing a switch from Libra, becoming The final boss for the series leaving Mr.baddy himself to be movie exclusive, as he will possibly take a leave of absence in order to "Preserve himself for space", or some bullshit excuse like that, leaving the remaining episodes fighting said baddy, but finding out that the Horoscopes where doing nothing but good in the end, and that Fourze preventing them was all misconstrued, forcing Gentaro to quit becoming Fourze. This doesn't stop Meteor however, who continues to fight, ultimatly ending up destroying the Meteor driver in the process.

I knew I couldn't be the only one around here that finds the show good. It's not zomg levels amazing, but I haven't been disappointed yet.

I'm right there with you too. Fourze isn't fantastic, but it holds my attention well enough. Even at its most sluggish point, it still felt like a step up from OOO, another series I don't love but also enjoyed.

I think my only current complaint, if you even want to call it that, is that Fourze doesn't feel like much of an anniversary series without its movies. I don't think I would have minded if it was a little more of a copycat of Decade and put those Rider Switches to use somehow, but that's an incredibly nitpicky thing.

I'm hoping the show gives us some sort of awesome ending - like revealing Kengo or Yuki as a serious villain this whole time. Can you imagine the drama that would stem from Gen having to fight Kengo, the fate of the world in his hands, and trying to use the power of friendship (lolz) to defeat his best friend?

After that whole tension with secret identity of Meteor, the show feels a bit plateaued, I hope for an awesome ending as well.

I enjoy Fourze...but not as a KR show...I think he could have been an independent superhero. I do say that when it first started I actually cared more for the school stuff than the actual monster fighting. The gimmick of the Astro Switches work, and Cosmic states is cooler than Decade's complete and much better than OOO's final form...
I just wish they would get back to a more basic rider...but that is me

I think the writers have done a brilliant job of creating a goofy exterior that, in its heart, is raw, unadulterated emotion. It's like an egg - a rough bland exterior with such a rich, powerful interior.

Anyone who doesn't give this show a chance to floor them is missing out hardcore.

Yes, the goofy parts are goofy and almost eye-rolling ... but when it gets serious and powerful, holy wow, it's amazing.

When I was watching Fourze the thought that kept going through my mind was "this is a very Super Sentai Kamen Rider". This is funny due to the Go-busters being called the "Kamen Rider Super Sentai".

I feel Fourze wouldn't be half as fun without its goofy elements. They give realy heart to the show, even Yuki's annoying antics.

My only thing are the switches. I like them. Just wish there was less Quanity and more Quality.

with the quantity of them..well with cosmic states you get to see some really cool combos of the switches. I almost wish they had gone to cosmic earlier just to see him play around with the combos...

The best way to describe Fourze...is that it's Den-O, if Den-O was on crack. :lol

This pretty much sums it up. The KRC kids are like all of the Taros to the extreme :lol

And Yuki is extreamX1000:lol

Well, we still got like 10-12 more episodes in the series, so there may still be some crazy awesome combos we get to see.

And it's a shame the KRC members don't get to do half of what the Taros' got to do :c

Totally agree. Cosmic makes alot of the stupid switches work, but I defy you to come up with a combo where Camera is useful.

Camera plus smoke. He uses smoke to fog up the battlefield so the Zodiart can't find him. However smoke is also something Fourze can't see through so he uses camera kind like night vision to find the Zodiart.

I like the amount of silly switches there are personally. It brings more to the table than just the standard melee/launcher weapons, and usually the really silly ones get a decent scene where Gentaro finds a way to make them both practical and look awesome.

Hopping, pen, stamp and giant foot all come to mind.