And W isn't even one of a good Type 1s.

I've yet to watch Black and this still has me really excited. This renewal version looks simply fantastic. And like many have said, like it's right out of the show - even down to the creases in the suit around the crotch. And not as awkwardly anorexic like the first figure.

Well considering every time I even just mention I don't like the hips, even just as a joke, at least two people always have a rebuttal.

After fucking with my W... I honestly think those pics are fixed.

That or I quite literally own the single worst Figuart on the planet. Not only is it not a good Figuart release, but my personal sample seems utterly flawed past the actual standard of the figure. (such as the mishaped headcrest, joint colours, the shade of green and uneven finish on the black) My first Figuart of my favourite Rider may be the worst toy I have ever owned on production quality alone. He has fucked joint tolerances, paint defects, joints that cannot move as much as they should, parts falling off and I think his legs are bent since I never see photos where the legs are flexed slightly inwards like mine.

Though those pictures still show how ugly and gappy those hips are. His legs don't look like he's sitting so much as they've been cut off and he's resting on the front of them. I'm actually glad you posted those since I have no pics of that quality showing the problem.

That kinda thing happens a lot on here, with a lot of different things, with a certain group of people.

No kidding. I say "man I hate those hips" and people are like "STOP HATING FIGUARTS BASED ON THE THREE FIGURES YOU OWN!"

I'm sorry, but what the fuck?

Remember internet rule #584 claims that you can't both be a fan of something and admit its flaws, admitting flaws of something even constructively automatically marks you a hater.

I haveto say, Ive had my CJ for a few days but, he does those poses and such and he looks great to me, the ONLY thing I dont care about on the figure is the black joints on the Cyclone side, other than that it is an amazing figure in my opinion.

I was gonna say, on that sitting photo they posted it looks like the thing joining his leg to his crotch is lego, with the gap being so ridiculous gaping but also the top of the leg looking so cut off and square.

Yeah, tried the legs again, no dice, mine's fucked. How perfect. And I'd try it on Sieg but his legs just pop right off if I move them.

Just when I think that toy can't get any worse. I still think the hips are a terrible design because of how awfully they break up the sculpt. Try showing W from the back and it get's even worse.

Yeah... no. Just because you can't get the pose right, doesn't mean it can't do it. I also own multiples of the double body and he can pose just fine. Fiddle around with your figures more and you'll see that they can pose very well. There's never been a bad Figuarts body despite what people claim and this is my opinion from handling nearly every one.

Hey wait a second... this thread is supposed to be about how awesome that new Kamen Rider Black is. It is indeed awesome, I can't wait to see some in hand pictures.

Ok dude, I just got home and messed around with my CJ, it kneels and such fine, doesnt have to cross legs like yours did, it even had a good gap between the legs, and he sits fine for me.

Now back to topic- Never really paid much attention to the older designs but this one looks pretty good, if I end up watching the series, I might be interested in this figure :lol Now for (non Rider) Domon Kasshu to get a rerelease :lol

No, dude, you didn't read what I said. (a theme I'm noticing around here) I mean THE SPECIFIC ONE I HAVE is the worst on the planet, since it's joints are stuck and weird tolerances and some stuff feels like I might twist or break it off if I try and force it into that pose. I'm sure normal ones can, but mine if rife with errors.

Goddammit! Why do I always get the defects? This really, really sucks.

Black is an awesome show and an awesome character. So is Battle Hopper.

Yea that sucks man, but I know how ya feel, I cant move the legs on my Gokai Silver at all, I mean they move but they squeak and are tight as hell. So I dont move him much.

Guys come on. Please don't bad mouth the users of this community. You don't need to poke and prod this or try and redirect things at other users. Don't turn this into anything more than it is. People have disagreed and aired out their arguments, but it's over now. So let's just shake hands, keep the thread on topic, and be cool.

Since it was such a huge debate, I took my son's W figure (I didn't want to move mine :D) and tried out a few poses, and here are the results:

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/4587/8rut.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1575/ockj.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img507/4599/irpi.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/2232/572a.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img37/7296/3ur5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img844/7497/cx5y.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img689/2875/cit4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/9122/1xx9.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img521/5650/8qni.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img515/4622/9117.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img35/5791/dez1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img12/5305/dpt5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/812/td18.jpg

It is entirely possible that you might have gotten a lemon, but with that said, everyone here form their opinion based on their experiences, so let's keep that in mind and try to be respectful, any further discussion of the Figuarts body should be moved to the S.H. Figuarts thread.

Preorders are going up today.

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/det...00876&page=top - Black renewal

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/det...00877&page=top - Battle Hopper renewal

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/det...-1251&page=top - Reissue Shadowmoon

Guess I know how little sleep I'm getting tonight.

Well, at least I know it's not like I'm the only one to have this problem, though shame about your Gokai Silver.

I've heard something about dry soap to loosen joints? Is that like taking soap bars and putting a bit into the joints?

Sorry, I wasn't trying to bad mouth anyone in particular or in general. Just saying how it felt to me.

Yes yes I get it, my W can't do that. I thought the debate was dropped? Or at least I tried to drop it. We already came to the conclusion that mine, among other thing, has fucked up hip joints.

All right, that picture looks WAY better than the one we got this morning.

Also, I'm watching Black Right now, and it may be the angle, but the helmet is just a bit too large near the top. It's too much of a circle instead of an oval. Now he looks to be looking down a bit, but it deffinitely seems off.

Sorry, but I can't have my figures sit like this with any other hips:

http://archivaria.com/DrKain/Figuart...inkenRed01.JPG
Okay, those pictures on AmiAmi really show how awesome this Black is. And it does look like he has a new hand accessory.

As for BH, does he just come with a standard stand? Are they not giving us a Black specific one like the previous release?

Anyway, hope the preorders are still available when I get up in the morning.

Shock oil, nothing else compares.

When I was taking the pictures and writing the post I had missed all the other posts that went up in the mean time, damn you guys are speedy posters. Didn't mean to prolong a discussion that had been put to rest.

Why did the preorders have to go up like an hour after I went to bed >.< I managed to get Black on Hobbysearch but Shadowmoon and Battle Hopper were sold out everywhere by the time I got there.

normally they Put Pre-orders open again in few Days due to i want thoes 3

I guess I'll trawl the sites and see if they come up again.

I got up at 3 to get Black and Hopper from Ami, but they were already gone. o_O

Oh well, I'll just wait for Amazon to have them on sale since BF will be getting them.