I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with the first episode.

Im here, your suprised? :lol

Haha.. Every time I see a fruit at a store, I'm just like "LOCK ON!"


....The episode needs to come out now :lol

lolwtf at the poll. Two "excellents" and one "good." It's like, having such high certain expectations is one thing, but to be so locked in with your expectation of it being just "good."

Still it's better than when people would vote each Wizard episode as horrible before it even aired.

Sid I suppose, unless things get really crazy and Zangetsu gives him the driver.

I always watched Wizard episodes hoping one of them would finally be better than most of the shit they've done ever since the middle of the show... I hope Gaim will keep the level they set in the first episodes and doesn't drop down to nowhere like Wizard did. ;_;

Kyroyu is ending right now, so for those that want to check this episode live, it may be a good time.

Fact from episode 3: Kaito kills TVs with playing cards. Playing cards with fruit motifs.

Thats what I call a Juicy Death

Ryugen gets more lines too.

*Edit: Those ads, those ads. :lolol

How are you guys watching this live? :(

http://tv.exitoostore.com/2013/02/tv...l#.UmMPiBBVVUV

Banana henshin is glorious.

http://i40.tinypic.com/aua5pk.png

They actually do that for everyone xDDD I'm dying!!!! xDDD

Also: thanks for sharing, algo, we were using Keyhole TV (sucky quality >,>)

Kaito walking with this giant Banana on his head was so stupidly awesome XD

And I must say I really enjoyed them not fighting each other but I suppose now that Kaito tasted the powers of the Banana he is going more and more into that direction.

Missed most of the second half, stupid washing machine couldn't had chosen worst timing. :lol

It was fun, another excellent episode it seems, Kota goes overboard with the Armored Rider thing, and Urobuchi's comment about adults seeing the Riders and Invess as kid's stuff, does show up.

Also tohse ads are crazy, I hope someone out there is recording them. :lol

Of course they are! :lol
And no prob, it's a pretty useful site.

Banana of violence!

Kouta going pretty much overboard with the use of his powers is a pretty nice follow up to the last episode. I guess his arc for this season is learning how to be more responsible with how to use his new found powers.

I knew a fruit with that shape cant be used for good

It's the only fruit that can be held as a gun!

Sweet mother of Oranges the connections were always there we were just to blind to see them! :lol

The only thing that really disappointed me was that Kaito really got his Driver from Sid. It was the obvious way to go but still it leaves me a bit underwhelmed.

Well, I'll agree with you on half of that.

I don't know if I'll ever be able to accept the fruit. I can just tell we'll eventually get to the point where there's some kind of incredibly dramatic scene it ruins - like Kota's sister dies or something, he screams out how he'll never forgive her killer, slams the Lockseed into place... and then a giant strawberry falls on his head. It's like Shabadoobie dialed up to 11.

Yeah the fruits are pretty much a total mood killer but I cant get myself to mind it all that much. Its so dumb and ridiculous yet they play it so straight that I really enjoy it.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. Shabadoobie was literally screaming ridiculous shit in our ears. This is just visual aloofness.

Fruits, as silly as they are, are pretty badass when they unfold since they're not actually fruit, just armour in the shape of them. Plus, I can see dramatic henshins forgoing the fruit imagery and just becoming the rider, like how W didn't do the full routine into Xtreme in the second to last ep.

A giant metal orange unfolding into badass samurai armour will never be as bad as...

*CHI-KOW-WOW*
HA-SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!
HA-SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!
HA-SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!

Over. And over. And over. And over.

I wouldnt be to quick on that. Even though Xtremes Henshin in the penultimate episode was really quick it was still the normal henshin sequence.

The thing with the henshin is Gaim is that the dropping fruit is an integral part to it. You cant not do it cause it is the way the sequence has to work.

It would be the same if OOO did a transformation without the medals appearing around him.

Philip was never knocked out, never scanned by the Xtreme memory, they never formed CycloneJoker, the henshin sound for it never played.

It was absolutely not normal. They never formed Xtreme like that before or since.

Some could say the same about the Den-O henshins, and they sometimes transformed without the armour. In fact, after the series proper they mostly transformed without the transforming armour.

It's not integral to the henshin because it's not real, it's special effects they could always just leave out for dramatic purposes. They could easily just make him glow really bright and then just be in the full suit.

They could, really, make him transform however they wanted. It's not like this stuff is real. Like I said, W transformed with literally just a wind effect. Regular CycloneJoker didn't even appear.

First of all...I didnt quite get that you literally meant the whole henshin sequence from Cyclone Joker to Xtreme Form BUT even then the henshin pretty much was the same as before. Alle the action just was covered up by Xtremes Henshin effect.

On the other Hand you are comparing two distinctly different Henshin styles. Base to Final Form is a completely different concept than a human to base Form henshin and as I mentioned before Gaims setup requires the Fruit to drop and unfold cause there are no other effects to cover it up. The only solution would be that the fruity effects when the Body suit appears covers up the actual unfolding part but still you would have the actual fruit still dropping on the head of the actor.

No it's not. Philip could not pass out, get scanned while Shotaro transforms, then become Xtreme in literally three frames. W's entire henshin is based aorund him standing still. It's practically impossible for him to henshin on the move.

They completely changed it. No ifs, ands or asses about it.

Your splitting hairs, man. W didn't go base-to-final, he went straight to final form.

If they wanted to, they could not even bother to show his henshin. They could have it happen off screen should the scene require. There's no reason the fruit HAS to show up. Afterall, look how he transformed in his room in the last episode. We just saw a flash of light behind the door. I didn't see any orange. There's no reason he can't just do that.

You seem to have cleverly avoided my Den-O comparrison, which is VERY similar to Gaim. Almost identical in how it happens. The only difference is the armour simply materializes. They often ignored that and just had Den-O appear in full form.

I find it funny that we're debating this since I have numerous examples of henshins that deviate, one even in the show itself, and regardless it's not like either of us disagree in our reponse to the actual problem of the fruit thing being a distracting. (i.e. we don't find it a problem :lol)

Shortening Henshins isn't that rare, if at any point the production team thinks that the fruit may ruin the mood, I think it's very likely they'll be dropped.

And honestly, it doesn't bother me, it's not screaming constantly at the very least...

PPRRRWWEEEEAAASSSEE!!!

Yeah, there's that.

Also, any RAWs floating around yet?

HI HI HI!

The only sound I like so far is water style, it's calm and relaxing.
Not OMG LISTEN TO ME I'M RIIIIIINGIIIING~

Water's kinda sounded neat because of the surfer tunes in the background.

Should've been just that instead of SWEE SWEE SWEEET LOVE OF GOD SHUT UP.

Yeah I just cant see how they can do completely without showing the fruit since the fruit dropping pretty much IS the Henshin.

Of course there will always be a way to avoid showing it like doing it off screen something that in my opinion is always an even bigger mood killer.

And I never wanted to argue about the fact that other shows did it so I guess we just werent clear on that point :lol

The only thing with Gaim at the moment is that I cant see them doing the henshin completely without the fruit with the current setup they use. Maybe a few weeks down the line they will present us a good alternative xD

Maybe instead of the fruit dropping it just appears and unfolds immediately, not actually looking like a fruit?

Though honestly I think the descending fruit could make for an awesoem moment, like Gaim turining into his "base" form and the orange slowly lowering as we see inside the fruit the orange pattern slide down into his visor, then it slowly unfolds before locking in place with his visor glowling.

What I could imagine is using close ups to "hide" the fruit dropping. Like having am extreme close up on the riders face while it gets covered up by parts of the armor and then when it unfolds the camera zooms out.

Lens flare!

They could speed it up, or have the armor materialize instead of falling down.

And I guess we are worrying over nothing, the next show may manage to top fruits in crazyness, PIÑATA ARMS!

Maybe they take the Kamen Rider Accel Idea even further and give us...VEHICLE ARMS!! I can totally imagine a giant Bus landing on top of the rider XD

Woodland animals for legs. Like badger legs, or deer legs. Not like they have those animals' legs, but they actually have badgers with arms and heads as legs.

That my good sir is the most insane thing I have ever read...so there is a good chance it might actually happen xD

The Shabadoobie could be - and frequently was - drowned out by the audio. I don't know if/how Gaim could skip over the fruit drop. You can't bury a visual under music or dialogue.

In either case, they're both examples of Bandai's toy gimmicks distracting you from the show.

A Rider with Gaoranger limbs?

Why not. :lol

It didn't in the first fourteen episodes.

The last, what, three pages offered a NUMBER of different ways they could get around it.

No, gaim is not, because the fruit hasn't distracted. Yet.

So where bootylicious RAWs at, huh?