I like the basic design concept (basicaly robo ET) and I quite like the silouet, but the detailing is way too busy and random and that kind of ruins it for me. I'm torn on the eyestalks.

In terms of personality and character it's way too early for me to say. Just as a design itself the origonal Alpha 5 doesn't have much character to me at least, certainly not more than this design. It's the way he moves and talks that gives him character. Though I'm not terribly confident about how the new one will look in motion. But I'll wait and see.

That is a VAST exaggeration. Myself, and to pretty much every friend of mine who was never into Power Rangers in the first place, can still clearly recognize all of this as Power Rangers. I don't understand the echo chamber happening around here where everyone is saying "that looks nothing like Power Rangers!" when clearly the casual audience doesn't care how we define the franchise. Power Rangers are "six teenagers in goofy colored suits fighting monsters from both inside and outside six giant robot animals that combine into a bigger robot" to most people. And that's exactly what is being presented here whether you like the visual style or not.

In fact, my mother (someone who has never shown even the slightest interest in Power Rangers) saw the first trailer and is actually anticipating this movie a lot more than she thought she ever would. She told me that "it looks like a real movie, instead of just a bunch of guys in silly costumes shouting cheesy catchphrases," so obviously what's being shown here is clicking with a wider audience than you might think.

Maybe, and this is just a stretch, but maybe this is just Saban going "well, here's your "mature" Power Rangers, now watch it bomb."

-Implying that Saban actually cares about the franchise and it's fanbase beyond how much money he can milk from it.

The prevailing attitude I've seen outside of this forum is "Looks like Iron Man","Looks generic" and "looks lazy" and people defending the movie for being "different" and "grown up" so basically the same as here.


Ofcourse it is it's regurgitating every popular Hollywood movie from the last decade that's how they're hoping to sucker people into seeing it.

Too bad we can't recognize what the fuck their helmets are based off.

To hell with logical evolution that respects the source material whilst building off of it in a way longtime fans can appreciate. Lowest common denominator is all that matters!

Why make a Power Rangers movie for Power Rangers fans? What would they care?

You say that like "the wider audience" is anything to be proud of. This is the same audience that makes the Transformers movies billions of dollars.

Would making the costumes less alien and more reflective of their animal motifs really alienate audiences? Would making the zords actually look like robotic animals really alienate fans? Would making Alpha look more like a robot and less like a night terror really alienate audiences? Would havine a ligther tone akin to GotG really alienate audiences?

You act like appealing to fans and the masses are mutually exclusive concepts, but they're not. They could've easily made a movie more in line with PR whilst still makign it consumer friendly. Hell, maybe they could'e actually attempted to update and inform the public's perception of Power Rangers at it's best rather than callously and cynically alter it it with an extreme in the opposite direction.

This complacency with Hollywood tropes and trends kills me, and it kills cretaivity. Everyone's so God damned afraid of going against what's proven to work they won't bother seeing if anything else will. Except we know there's other ways to do it. Again, GotG proves that you can have a much, much more jovial tone and audiences fucking loved it. The excuse that the idiot masses can't accept anything different is not only conceptually flawed, it is proven to be incorrect.

I totally agree with Den-O on everything.

This Alpha might as well just be called Wheelie 2.0.

I still don't get the "lazy" complaints. Copying the original designs beat for beat would be the real lazy option. And seriously, this looks just like Alpha, minus, again, the stylistic changes made to fit into the aesthetic this universe is going for. It has the same colors, same iconic head designs (plus eyestalks anyways). Just the proportions are a bit different, and it's got the sleeker, more alien like design to it.

It seems like I have to say this whenever you reply to my posts: stop twisting my words. You do this every time.

I'm in no way implying that their approach here is necessarily a good thing, or the right way to go about things either. I am ONLY arguing against the statement that it's an objectively unrecognizable, loose representation of Power Rangers, and a manipulative cash grab on the same level as Jem and the Holograms.

I was looking forward to seeing the new Alpha design, but I have to say I'm not a fan. It's not terrible, but it barely looks like Alpha. Doesn't even have the lightning bolt on the chest (or does it?) :p

Because recoloring Iron Man's armor and slapping a ZyuRanger helmet on it and melting an AOE Dinobot toy require so much effort.:rolleyes

A predominately red and bronze robot with a flying saucer shaped head.

More than reusing the technicolor spandex and cardboard boxes we had in the 90's.

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It's a sad day when both a movie from 20 years ago and a guy on the internet actually put more effort and creativity into a design then a big budget movie in 2017.

Oh, they look just like the designs from the show, how lazy of them to not try and come up with something more original.

You seriously think recoloring Iron Man's armor in Photoshop is more original then updating an old design to make it more realistic/modern?

So far the designs from this movie are getting harder to swallow....

It's more original than using that as a comparison, that's for sure.

Anyways, uh, yeaaaaah this is a really weird design, kinda reminds me of a Doctor Who alien than Alpha.
Still not as bad as that robot from Megaforce though.

The design for this looks alright. I've enjoyed most of what I've seen from this movie so far and this might take some getting used to. I can see it being a fun character in the movie.

The big problem is that the level of deviation is not in sync with the level of appropriation expected and needed.
And the whole "it is to match the taste of the majority so that we may acquire more" rubbish is just... rubbish.
Personally so far I only like the red ranger suit since it somewhat resembles the red ranger and the megazord I am okay with despite looking like a rejected final form of Ryukendo and I feel it does not belong.
The other suits? The motifs are not so distinct and hardly resemble what they should be and rather look like four different kinds of mutant stingrays.
And now Alpha appears looking like a flatheaded snail with no shell.

I didn't mean to twist your words. What you said is honestly completely right, I just used it as a springboard to voice my discontent over the fact.

Aaaand you've just lost any and all credibility.

If you are really so incapable of understanding the difference between wanting something that respects the source material, and the actual source material, you are not worth talking to. That is just a flat out childish thing to say.

That's like saying if they made a Bruce Wayne Batman that was super Bayformer overdetailed and had an organic cowl with no ears or nose and no cape or bat symbol and it had no actual design cues from Batman except the exposed mouth, anyone who complains clearly just wants the Adam West suit.

We've done body suited superheroes before, and better. Look at Black Panther. Full bodysuit that isn't spandex. Looks badass.

Except, one, they don't look just like the show. They still have the organic, more detailed look, just used effectively and with taste. They even ditch the belts, boots and gloves and just keep the center chest diamond. And second, it's not unoriginal if it's the the same fucking brand. Making Optimus Prime look like Optimus Prime isn't unoriginal. Making Optimus Prime look like Voltron is unoriginal. If your source material is the actual source material, that's not a lack of originality, it's the all too rare philosophy of "make shit look like what it's based on."

This movie better have the writing to back up the horrible designs and terrible trailer.

I think the comparison to Iron Man that is being made is lazy in itself, as it looks nothing like Iron Man. These suits are more form-fitting and certainly more organic.

"Effort" and "creativity" when they didn't make it completely familiar to the source material shows that they actually did put effort and creativity into the design. Because it's not familiar, therefore it's lazy and thoughtless.

I'm not a huge fan of the changes, but clearly someone took the time to come up with this so it doesn't look like "kids dressing up in cheap spandex to fight people in rubber monster suits."

It's perfectly fine to not like something, but calling it "lazy" or "effortless" or "lacking creativity" is just lazy in itself, really.

This.

Exactly. It's effort, but completely misguided effort. Kind of like a lot of the problems with, say, Megaforce. There is effort in that series, but in all the wrong places, like making sure they exactly replicated the sets from the Sentai for the new footage... and then doing stupid things like having Pre-Zyu suits with no explanation and ONLY swapping out Akaranger for the MMPR Red, while leaving the rest of the Pre-Zyu suits intact, in the completely NEW footage that they had to film just to do that...

It's not lazy, it's stupid and misguided, and, mark my words, this movie bombs, it'll be due to them wasting their efforts on pointless crap.

Although... after the zords, this design isn't so bad. It has all the basic parts it needs to resemble what it's supposed. Is it perfect, or even good... no, but it at least passes muster, IMO. It's butt ugly, but you can at least see where the notes were made. Short, red and has a disk for a head... I'll give it C... minus... but still a pass.

Suits>Alpha>Zords, when it comes to looking right.

Thank you. "Stupid" and "misguided" is far more appropriate.

Maybe the correct term would be "different" ? Either way, you understood my point. They want to use MMPR as a crutch without actually recreating MMPR. Mocking one's opinion without adding anything to the conversation is always appreciated though :thumb:

Maybe it's not lazy insofar as concept designers and costume designers put a lot of work into actually drawing and constructing the suits, but it's certainly uncreative when it's the same tired style Hollywood gives anything alien these days. There's nothing distinct or iconic about these looks, half the helmets look like they're the same damn sculpt. And the zords are literally just ripped right off of the AOE Dinobots. And that's an executive decision. The actual people hands-on working on this movie are obviously far from lazy.

You know what was creative? Those vehicle-like zord concepts that were speculated to transform from practical vehicle modes to animal-like mech modes. That was a great idea, as it kept the giant robot dinosaur concept but put a clever and pragmatic twist on it. And they didn't look like generic TF movie characters, the T-rex at least still evoked the colours and shapes of a blocky, but functional robot so much that despite only ever seeing the vehicle mode, it still clearly felt like it wa sthe T-rex zord. They weren't the best designs ever, but they were a step in the right direction as far as making this film feel distinct.

And that's really the crux of it all. Yes, technically the suits don't identically resemble Iron Man in details or aesthetic. However, the fact that everyone keeps comparing them to Iron Man tells us enough. To people, the Power Ranegrs aren't armoured, or covered in lots of little metal spikey details. They're people in bodysuits, and they don't have to be spandex. Marvel, again, has plenty of characters in "tights" that aren't cheap spandex suits. The fact that thay chose a look that feels directly in spite of the original designs is why people don't like them. When they made Man Of Steel, for as much as I dislike that costume, they didn't armour him up and give him a ton of little contrasting colour details in the form of layered pieces of metal. They kept it a bodysuit, added a texture, and added minor details and embelishments here and there. But he still looked like Superman. And that was also an alien costume.

I'm trying really hard not to have kneejerk reactions to whatever is announced or revealed from the 2017 movie. I even like the suits now and the zords' extra legs for whatever reason they decided to do that. But what am I supposed to do with this? It looks like an anthropomorphic robotic frog. Honestly? I agree about the eye-stalks. If they weren't there I'd like it more. As it is.. Just what the living hell were they thinking?

He kinda looks like a robotic E.T.... The over-all design is nice, but the proportions and bulging eyes definitely hurt the design... a lot. Makes me wish they had gone with that concept art we saw of a tall and skinny Alpha with a small head. The one that kinda looked inspired by "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

For once I'm actually kinda hoping they don't make a toy of Alpha, lol...

I disagree about the Dinobots. They at least look like the dinos they represent.

And I said this previously, but I'm a fan of the new zords, but not as zords, but as you said, some sort of "nega-verse" (not your exact quote, same idea though) Power Ranger team.

I still don't see how this looks like anything that Hollywood has put out already though.

I'm not familiar with any of these concepts. It sounds like a rip-off of DICE though.

What people though? Because the original movie Rangers certainly were armored.

I mean, we've seen posts in this very thread from people that have proven that they're still identifiable as Power Rangers.

Okay, so not trying to twist words here but it sounds like you don't want the Power Rangers to look like their current movie versions, because they look like other characters (such as Iron Man) but would be okay if they looked like other characters? (like Black Panther or Superman)

I mean, we've had spiky armor before, blocky armor, Battlizers, etc. in regular Power Rangers. To me, these look more like the original Movie suits, but alien in nature, but still identifiable as Power Ranger suits. The morpher belt, the diamond, even the helmets in regards to how the zords appear.

I dunno man.

Because you've probably already forgotten things like Jupiter Ascending and other crap sci-fis that get forgotten for being so shit.

Also, seriously, you can't see the obvious similarities between the TF movie designs and the zords? Or the similarity between the trailer and "Chronicle?"

Honestly I have zero idea as to what Jupiter Ascending and Chronicle is.

And I can see a something of a similarity, but the Transformer Movie Dinobots look far and wide more like dinosaurs compared to the Power Ranger movie Zords, even if you remove extraneous legs.

Only one that looks even remotely like it should is Saber-Toothed Tiger.

The whole techno-organic anatomy models from hell aesthetic is what makes folks who are hating what they are seeing cringe it seems.
I agree TF live-action dinobots look more accurate anatomically(minus the two-headed pterodactyl) but both them and these zords aesthetically feel similar with that whole techno-organic look which just creep some people out.
If Pacific Rim can do robots that do not feel like mutilated toys that look like they came fresh out of the microwave no reason for this movie to do that as well for the zords and Alpha.

I can't speak for those who made the original comparisons, but in my honest opinion, yes. Iron Man, Black Panther, and Superman all look more or less like their comic book/source material counterparts. The power rangers costumes more closely resembled Black Panther's and Superman's costumes than Iron Man's, however, because they wore spandex and iron man wore metal. Movie Superman and Black Panther weren't plain spandex, but still kept that look. If they had received Iron Man armor, people would've hated it