Oh how much i hope this is the end of super season's.

I mean I'm not sure if it's confirmed if this was a Nickelodeon or Saban thing, but they'd probably have to pull from Nickelodeon to get rid of the 2 season/full on overly-kiddie/braindead style of show.

Which is sad, there were so many cool and interesting vehicles that easily could be converted into Transformers designs. Plus having an entire year or two where classic Joe and Cobra vehicles are the basis of Transformers would be fun.

Could Banda/Toei consult Hasbro for mecha designs ?

Hasbro? Yes. Takara? No.

Kyuranger was done with input from BoA...so I think Hasbro giving input is at least a possibility.

Power Rangers is still adapting Super Sentai. Beast Morphers is adapting Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters, and (so far as I am aware) no announcement has been made saying that Hasbro will not be adapting a Sentai series (Kyuranger, probably) after Beast Morphers is done.

Where was it stated that Bandai and Toei 'aren't giving Hasbro any more Sentai'?

I'm excited to see where this leads~

I'm expecting at some point we get some kind of Transformers Power rangers set when some of the Autobots are modeled after classic word and can power link into the megazords.

Let me dream

I was expecting someone like Universal or Paramount could have purchase PR.

Why would anyone want that?

What PR needs, and what the success of things like Hyperforce and Shattered Grid have proven they need, is new blood.

They still make really good music, every time Power Rangers has tried new music its never ever been as good as the seasons with Wasserman. Remember how they replaced Wasserman's good theme in Mystic Force with that terrible rap? There's a difference between new blood in the writer's seat and new blood behind the music.

Somthing just hit me. Will Ninja Steel & Ninja Super Steel still get season dvd sets from Lionsgate??

Most likely. Licenses expire, they rarely get pulled, so as long as Lionsgate release the stuff by 2019 it'll probably be fine.

Totally calling it, So when or if eventually Hasbro/Nick screws up Power Rangers like Disney did and the hype is gone for the general audience. Who else is thinking Haim Saban's buying it back for a dirt cheap?! Give it 10 years? Obviously I don't want Saban buying it back, as Neo-Saban era is painful to watch. If Hasbro is serious about the 'great storytelling', they better step up and have the writers watch the entire sentai series and movie like Kyle Higgins when he watch MMPR before doing the comics. They should also rid of the Super season, and return to one series format a year, I know its Nick's issue but make an exception for PR.

Well Hasbro actively had interest unlike Disney who got it in a bundle deal, like how 4kids got the rights to a One Piece dub despite not wanting it. Plus Hasbro supports unions, which mean better actors and writers and the fact Hasbro already signed up a deal to do the Beast Morphers toys

Could Hasbro have interest in another Tokus like KR's ?

Well that's certainly possible but it depends on how they handle PR. They could end up wanting to try and diversify the toku henshin hero genre for western audiences

You're talking about a company that is by all accounts actively trying to end doing the live-action Transfomers movies, because they want their own in-house studio doing theatrically-released animated movies instead that are more on-brand. Heck, Hasbro was prepared to buyout Lionsgate purely to guarantee decent distribution for their in-house movies.

Beast Morphers could most certainly be the final live action series, for a whole host of reasons not limited to the above. I have it on fairly good authority that Toei aren't giving Saban Brands (and now Hasbro) the rights to any new Super Sentai material. They can only adapt the stuff they already licensed in the past. So Hasbro Studios will have to announce some sort of animated series. I fully expect the Nickelodeon deal to be bought out too, so they have control over a better deal.

Anyways, I reckon the next big Hasbro announcement is going to be their acquisition of IDW, and buyout of Machinima from Warner Bros.

And what authority is that? A claim such as this requires proof or it carries as much weight as 'my brother's friend's cousin's uncle works at Toei and TOTALLY told me so'.

Hasbro did live action not that long ago. When The Hub was still a thing it had a few newly produced live action shows, like Aquabats and RL Stine's The Haunting Hour.

Hasbro's ending the live action movies because of how poorly the last two performed, especially as far as the toys go, with a lot of the fault being how poorly Paramount has handled the franchise. They're still intending on making their live action Hasbro Cinematic Universe, which will eventually include the Transformers.

Yeah, that Aquabats it wasn't big deal.

This is fake news. We at Voltron would kill to have the retail sales figures and presence of Hasbro's TF movie line, so it really isn't anything to do with that at all, and everything to do with the creative vision they have for the brand.

Hasbro has a dream of being a completely integrated company, that owns or controls the entire production, distribution and marketing chain of its products. It's a lofty vision but has investors foaming at the mouth, which is where the money is coming from. There are thousands of rich men and women gunning for them.

The rumour mill is/was that from 2019 there will be a new "Hasbro One Universe" where all of the action franchises will reside regardless of medium, and it's being kicked off by IDW Publishing in late 2018. The first film set in this universe will be MASK (out in 2021), directed by the person behind Straight Outta Compton and Fast & Furious 8. Paramount is distributing MASK, but it won't be their movie, it'll be produced and owned by Hasbro Studios.

Put it this way - the authority figure just got promoted to HBIC at one of the companies involved. You can work out who if you follow TFW2005.

I follow TFW2005 and I have no idea who or what you’re talking about. I’m pretty sure you’re just fearmongering.

Yeah no, Hasbro movies and comics are 2 different universes, and G.I. Joe movie comes out in 2020 followed by a Micronauts movie, then in 2021 is a D&D movie, followed by a Hasbro event movie.

I mean, you're talking about keeping things on brand, but Power Rangers' brand is live action. Power Rangers is guys in spandex fighting rubber suit monsters, that's what people know it for. And there's still the fact that animation would still be more expensive to do than having literally half the footage already be there for them. They're going to keep doing live action.

Basically dude, you're spouting weird conspiracy theory nonsense

Actually, he's right on one count. As of two weeks ago, MASK, directed by F Gary Gray, is in development, though there isn't a scheduled release date like there is with GI Joe, Micronauts, and D&D.

There's a huge difference in profile between Voltron on Netflix and the Transformer mega franchise, which spans 6 $200 million+ movies (if you include the upcoming Bumblebee movie) and multiple animated TV series. Retail expectations for Transformers are infinitely higher than they are for Voltron, so even if the Transformers toy line sells better than Voltron's, it could still be a failure for Hasbro.

If you really do work on Voltron in some capacity, I'd expect you to know that...

Dizagaox, who are you? You make oblique references to working on Voltron, but that doesn't really give you much authority on Power Rangers. I'm super fascinated by what you're saying about Power Rangers and their inability to license future Sentai shows, but there are certain factors that lead me to believe that's unlikely.

Questions for you:

- Why would BoJ and Toei involve BoA and Saban in the development of Kyuranger if they had no plans to license Sentai shows beyond Ninninger?

- I have a friend who works at Hasbro, and he has said similar things regarding their desire to become, basically, the next Marvel Studios. But you're contradicting yourself. You say that Hasbro is moving away from live action to focus on animated features, but then you say that they're starting a live action "One Universe" with MASK. Why do you think that Hasbro is trying to move away from live action output when you, yourself, recognize that there are no less than four live action Hasbro movies due out in the next four years (in addition to like, five more live action Transformers movies that I'm aware of that are still in development), all of which are intended to be major franchise-starters?

- Why would Hasbro begin live action production of Beast Morphers if they're actually interested in turning Power Rangers into an animated series? Cause I guarantee that Beast Morphers was being developed by Hasbro from day one, hence the new PR logos, the new toyline by Hasbro, etc. Buyouts on this scale tend to take over a year to finalize, so they've been working on this deal, and thus the next show, since well before the announcement that the license had transferred. That's just how TV production works. Why wouldn't they just announce an animated Power Rangers series right out the gate?

- Do you really have industry insight, or are you just piecing together rumors from various message boards? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that your claims are extremely far fetched and need a lot more backup than you're providing.

Didn't Toei straight up deny Disney when they wanted to make an animated Power Rangers?
Why would they suddenly have a change of heart on Hasbro?

Toei probably rejected Disney's proposal to make animated series based on Super Sentai concepts/designs (i.e. Zyuranger/MMPR).

Any Saban/Hasbro/Disney-original designs and concepts are probably up for grabs in terms of animated shows. But who knows? I'd be interested to know how much contractual influence Toei has on Power Rangers as a concept separate from Sentai. I'm also interested in knowing how much Hasbro would have to change to make PR sufficiently distinct from Sentai in order to escape Toei's demands and make their own animated show.

EDIT: I did a little research, and I think it's a myth that Toei rejected an animated Disney PR pitch. There's almost no information on this other than Disney was considering a PR cartoon, going as far as to commission at least one test reel, but ultimately decided against it.

Respectable to whom though?

Hey let's not get too hype up just yet.

Obviously it needs to be respectable to me, an adult, and not to the children that it is marketed at

That was sarcasm btw. I think the comics are respectable enough, but the show does need to get a bit less... childish. I like the cheesy fun but it needs to have more serious moments and such. And better cinematography, both Dino Charge and Ninja Steel are absolutely awful on that front.

This doesn't really answer my question.

My point is that fans seem to care what other people who aren't fans outside of their fandom think about their respective franchise. If you're already a fan, then you kinda already respect the franchise enough that you'll stick around through thick and thin, or you'll leave and it might draw you back in.

Changing any formula could be good for the people who are already fans. If it brings any outsiders to the fandom it won't be a permanent thing. For example, the Transformer films brought people to the theater that weren't fans and they found them enjoyable*. After the movie, people leave waiting for the next film but they don't become "fans" like we are of a particular franchise.

I'm not saying it doesn't need work, but having this need for the franchise to be "respected" outside of their fandom isn't going to happen. They'll either have a brief nostalgia trip, or a summer flick fling (so to speak) that is just for fun.

I've seen people mention that the Shattered Grid stuff being on actual television would bring in new viewers and breathe life into the franchise. Both of those statements are probably true, but it won't be because of any sort of "respect" that was garnered, it will be because of nostalgia or curiosity.

I'm referring to older viewers and fans of course.

*I'm not here to debate the quality of the films, they did well enough from outsiders that they were able to keep going for five films, which is my only point here.

Waittaminute, since Hasbro owns them are they still going to retain that "Saban's Power Rangers" thing? I hope not.

Because, outsiders view Power Rangers as a joke. Some are even shy to admit they liked Power Rangers because people always view it as a joke. Hell, some of us hope this acquisition is a good idea because hopefully it will make PR a respectable brand.

Unless I'm wrong, those last three are on backburners. Mask is the only focus now, followed by Action Man. GI Joe seems to have got a new screenwriter but it's not yet happening.

The Transformers movie toys are still their #1 product line. The issue is the films are, you know, kinda shite and not what they envisioned when they licensed the rights to Steven Spielberg in the first place.

I'm a freelance brand consultant for Playmates, who are a Chinese/HK toy company that has the master license for various kids entertainment brands. They have no UK office so I act as a middleman between UK-specific licensees and retailers and their main HQs. I used to work on TMNT, then moved over to Voltron: Legendary Defender, and now I'm just squarely focused on launching my media marketing agency so don't really have time to do much. I consult for Toy Wiz every now and then. The brand licensing stuff I fell into accidentally with Bandai, where I held the UK license to Figuarts and supplied mostly DBZ merch to indie vendors and convention scene. I've become good friends with lots of people in the London/Brighton scene as a result.

I would guess they didn't anticipate falling out with Saban Brands?

I didn't say they were moving away from live action output. I'm saying they want to do their own films, including a CGI Transformers film produced in-house. And I think all of those films are on hold for now except MASK and Action Man.

Because they didn't plan on the buyout happening for a little while longer, so it was business as usual? I don't know and can't pretend to know. But you're wrong on how buyouts work, it's been announced now and it's from here on they work out logistics for all third parties to transfer/return rights, etc. That said, Hasbro has had IDW working on Power Rangers for a little while. Enough for us to begin seeing reboot timeline material from October. It's more than just the comics. What I was told at BLE 2017 was IDW writers are now involved in all storytelling for Hasbro, and their reboot will be the new timeline all the franchises follow.

Am I the only one who doesn't want to see Power Rangers mixed with Transformers and GI Joe? Ugh. If the acquisition gives us better Sentai adaptations and better toys, then cool. But if it gives us forced crossovers, no thanks.

Why would Hasbro buy a brand that would be dead lol

Yeah no, mixing up Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg isn't a small mistake, this proves you're full of shit

Yeah, for a dude who claims to be a brand consultant, you really don't seem to know how this kind of stuff actually works, and are just consistently spreading the same rumor.

Visionaries vs Mystic Knights?