The bar is super low right now, so Kiramager in a sense is at a slightly better position under the condition that Ryusoulger does better than LuPat. Now just as a reminder here are the numbers I found last time from Magiranger to LuPat.

Personal opinion, if Ryusoulger makes close to Ninninger money at the least, there is hope.

Hmmmm I wanna say RyuSoulger's safe, but the numbers were only marginally higher than LuPat's quarter sales each. While maybe it will hit that Ninninger number, there is the question if it can at least attain 10 billion yen.

Nah, highly unlikely it will make 10 billion. I am optimistic enough to assume it will do better than last year but not 10.

No offense, but doesn't matter which show they adapted because will be the same thing.

I find it strange that both America and Japan did Dinosaurs again right after Go-Busters. My cousin's 4-year-old son loves both Power Rangers and Dinosaurs, so he will be happy next year.

This new dino series could be interesting. I hope they don't pull a Wild Force stunt and move slots mid way through the run.

I hope Saban don't influence somehow this new show.

It seems his influence has actually gone down -- I saw it pointed out that unlike BM season 1, BM season 2 doesn't have "Saban's Power Rangers" in the title.

It's important to note that that doesn't necessarily mean much creatively, of course (unless there were certain themes or ideas he was either preventing or pushing with his direct influence), but it's still stepping away from him.

But he still work as consultant with Hasbro ?

I haven't heard anything like that; but if his overarching credit's straight up been removed like that (and I certainly doubt he's gotten more humble recently), then I doubt he still works with them.

I hate this idea, but it's not like I can expect hasbro to adapt past sentai seasons better than it's counterpart because I don't really like Beast Morphers even though Go-Busters is my favorite season.

I agree, they'll adapt Ryousouger just because of jurassic world 3.

Glad to know I'm not the only one. Though there are good stuff about Beast Morphers, I admit.

Well it's more of because dinosaurs sell better. It's also speculated that Beast Morphers didn't sell well or something so it makes sense why Hasbro wants to play it safe.

Why did they adapt Go-Busters in the first place if it was not going to sell well?

It might simply have been a case of "the best of bad options". Toqger and Zyuohger both had very simple suits with very blocky simplistic mecha which I could see potentially being a hard sale. And I say this as someone who's a fan of both series and who loves their designs; it's just hard to see them being appealing in the western market.

Oh, and Ryusoulger didn't exist yet, of course.

That leaves Lupat and Kyuranger -- both of which had suit and mecha design which could work well enough from a sales perspective. Lupat I can definitely see being too early especially with the complications of the brand ownership passing hands, or perhaps bad sales in Japan warned them off. Kyuranger I can certainly see the issue being too many rangers; where it's difficult to create a focused and balanced toyline and merchandising/branding in general.

With all that, I can see Go-Busters being the "well, guess we'll go with that one" pick.

Because Hasbro/Saban can't see into the future to predict what will be a success or not?

If you're alluding to Go Buster's failure, whether or not a Sentai does well almost never impacts the success of the Power Rangers counterpart.

Yeah, no way those would fly. Toquger would be laughed off toy shelves by the intended demographic of PR, and kids would just see Zyuohger as a Minecraft rip off.


Lupin Vs. Pat would be hard just because you're really shaking up the Power Rangers status quo. How do you market two concurrent red rangers? And I think you're absolutely right about Kyuranger just having too many Rangers with too many different designs.

It's a shame, because Go-Busters is a great series as far as suits and mecha, especially compared to what's being produced today. They have sleek designs (well, the vehicle and Ace do) that aren't restricted by a line-wide gimmick, nice colours and details, awesome Ranger suits, etc. Sentai has a bad habit of producing over-saturated suits with poor or no colour break-up, and mecha that are extremely basic and unexciting. Go-Busters ticks all the right boxes for "cool and fun." I'm actually kinda sad Beast Morphers isn't doing well.

Rysoulger makes sense enough. Granted the mecha still come across as too simplistic, but they're also not just giant geometric blocks with sparse detail and no shape. The costumes are also, IMO, ugly as fuck, but are not the almost barren sea of single-colour the other suits are.

Are you even the sentai had a 80/90-like mechas Hasbro wouldn't adapt.

My guy you gotta proof-read your posts.

Also, if they were 80's/90's mecha they'd actually transform and have plenty of detail and colours instead of cheap, almost-unpainted plastic blocks you plug together in a loose humanoid shape like the last five or six Sentai.

Sorry, i just forgot some words when i type too fast.

Perhaps the issue is MMPR is so heavily embedded into Western pop culture than anything that's not dinosaur/prehistoric themed is just going to fall flat on its face.

I think the problem stems deeply with the beginning of Power Rangers. Saban had been trying to get Sentai adapted since Bioman. And Marvel with Sun Vulcan before that. Saban kept trying and trying until 1993 when the fates determined that Jurassic Park will be released and be a huge hit, with later that summer Zyuranger would get an American adaptation, coming off the heels of the hugely successful prehistoric blockbuster. With Ninja Turtles being popular at the time as well, MMPR season 1 was a recipe for success given the blend of martial arts and dinosaurs.

For two more seasons, and a movie, the suits maintained the prehistoric ascetic (with the exception of one) despite the zords changing around them. Zeo was the first to break the mold, which did modestly, but its follow up, Turbo nearly doomed the franchise. In Space revived it but with the death of Zordon came the metaphoric death of Power Rangers as a franchise. Lost Galaxy was probably the pinnacle of the franchise in story form, but sales were either stagnant or dropping.

Disney eventually got their hands on it and after a season and a half they adapted Abaranger with the return of Tommy. They would continue produce seasons up until 2009, but toy sales continued to drop, and Bandai of America tried everything to cut cost and increase sales. Disney and Bandai realized only MMPR sells. Thus in 2010 we got the MMPR revamp. When Saban got his hands back on the franchise he cut and pasted elements of MMPR into every adaptation of that era. The only one to break the mold a little in terms of story was Dino Charge, which was allowed because it was a dinosaur season and dinosaurs sell. They could make parallels to MMPR with it without even trying. And Saban got way too experimental with the 2017 movie, which is why that received mixed reactions and modest toy sales.

Hasbro now owning the property and seeing first hand what does and does not sell, they too are following the same pattern. Why? It's because we've been conditioned to associate Power Rangers exclusively with MMPR and dinosaurs. I am sure the toy and suit designs in some recent Sentai seasons don't hold a candle to the 80's and 90's versions and that could affect sales. But in the Western World the main issue, at least from my perspective, is the lack of developing a season with their own identity and marketing the hell out of a newer product, and instead playing it safe with a cut and paste formula each season, with new characters that get cycled out too fast and remain under developed, combined with sub par toys.

I have always believed that the franchise could help itself with a more anthology-minded season than a singular adaptation. The older Sentai, which Super Megaforce "helped" to include in the greater Rangerverse canon, could easily be used in such a season to get us back where we need to be.

Think about Star Wars and their more recent reveals, relating to the timeline of the Old Republic and characters we've never seen before.

Would adapting a mid-'80s Sentai be sensible? Nope! The footage is too old and the aspect ratio isn't suited for widescreen.

Would a Movie Special from a mid-'80s Sentai be sensible? Possibly. Movies tend to be more in widescreen and a have different quality to them.

Is there some newer footage of older Sentai teams that could still be used? Of course! Super Megaforce probably didn't adapt even half of Gokaiger! Movie Specials and Crossovers could also help.

Could an anthology season be made to work while still bouncing off of MMPR and its mythos? Not hard to imagine. The BOOM! Comics had the 1969 MMPR Team prevent Psycho Green from freeing Rita decades before she actually was! A kid-friendly anthology wouldn't be as dark as that MMPR Issue 20 was, but it could echo the idea that a lot of interesting things happened before 1993!

Would an anthology season be hard to market? Hard, but not impossible. You could easily introduce new elements while simultaneously referencing 25+ Years of franchise history, all framed within the context of "MMPR & DINOSAURS ARE KING"!

Hasbro hasn't gotten to safe-zone with the franchise yet, and is apparently too skittish about taking an unnecessary risk. It may take awhile before something truly interesting happens, and right now, all Beast Morphers has left is the Dino Ranger Crossover (minus the unforeseen surprises they've kept hidden until now).

One day this franchise will realize that it can't keep lining its pockets with a glut of MMPR. Even Iron Man and Spider-Man change suits once in awhile!

Was Zyuranger chosen as the adaptation because of Jurassic Park’s success (or hoped for success), or was it just a coincidence that the chosen series happened to be about dinosaurs?

Most likely a coincidence. Kids have always loved Dinosaurs decades before Jurassic Park. Not to mention, Zyuranger sold very well in Japan despite the mixed reactions it had when it was airing. It made sense for Saban to go with Zyuranger than Jetman or Fiveman at the time because most little kids would buy anything with a T-Rex slap on to it.

I was someone who was super into Dinosaurs when I was very little and MMPR having prehistoric animals is how I got into the series at the time.

I recall a video series which documented Sentai History as it relates to Power Rangers, and if I recall correctly, Toei made Zyuranger a dinosaur-themed Sentai in anticipation of Jurassic Park and its potential for success.

Saban apparently got to point when he could port Sentai over to the States by publicly singing the Jetman theme! Whether they chose Zyuranger cause 1): it was easier than Jetman, 2): an obvious attempt at capitalizing on Jurassic Park, or just 3): a matter of timing between Saban and Toei, is anyone's guess!

IIRC Hasbro themselves said in an interview ages ago that the reason they chose Go-Busters to adapt was because it was visually unique compared to alot of other seasons. Whether or not you believe that is of course up to you.

That's funny, i heard is because the zords had more resemblance from transformers.

I can believe that. Hasbro saw potential within Go-Busters and even added/improved the toys like with how the Beast X Morpher is a completely different beast than Morphin Brace.

And honestly I think the show's schedule also killed the toy sales as well. Can't say about the marketing since I don't live in US, but ever since Power Rangers was on Nick their schedule is terrible. You'd get about 8 episodes, and then long hiatus because children must outside during summer, and during that time it's possible that interest went down.

I do recall at last year's toyfair when Beast Morphers was being shown off, they really made a big deal about the "new leather suits" (which, of course, were less new and more 7 years old). I can easily see it being a reason; like I said, visually the rangers are a lot more striking than Zyuohger and Toqger and that'd be a big factor.

I wish know what Hasbro gonna do with the Nickelodeon expired contract next year.

The book was out in 1990 so I assume when the word was out that the movie will be made by Spielberg and that it is most likely gonna be a bona fide hit, they probably took a gamble(a good gamble too) during pre-production and decided to capitalize on the hype is my speculation.

According to the Visual History book Saban took Zyuranger because by the time the deal with Toei went through, Zyuranger was the latest Sentai. Otherwise they would've went with Jetman or whatever else was the latest had the deal gotten through earlier.

Dinos will never get skipped regardless of. Who has Power Rangers.

Fox , Jetix and Nick have all had Dinos when it comes up. True they could have held off for 2023 for this but I'm OK with it.

I was one of the ones who said 5 years was too soon.

For some reason whoever adapts Dinos those usually turn out good. So we'll see how Hasbro does. Saban did good with Dino Charge in 2015 / 2016. I watched all 40 together. I actually liked Dino Charge.

There's any information about the Nick contract expiration ?

Hasbro may have thought “If we’re going to do Kyuranger, we should do it after we leave Nick.

That’s a mood

Maybe Kyuranger didn't adapted because one of the monsters was wearing a thong :p

I almost feel bad for Hasbro. They have the shittiest Sentai designs to use. It's hard to reinvigorate and re-establish a brand when the source material is as bad as recent years have been.

Ryusoulger's aesthetics are pretty good imo, and the Zords are extremely pleasing to look at. Kyuranger too, and even Kiramager.

But yeah if they ended up adapting LuPat someday then oof. LuPat's mechas are just plain terrible, never before have I wished Sentai would just ditched the mecha. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't like Zyuohger's aesthetics.

I was about ready to jump to the defence of most recent Sentai teams in recent years... and then I saw it was about the mechs rather than the rangers themselves.

And. Yeah. Ouch. I like me some ToqOh for how simplistic it is but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

I believe that Kyuranger should be a more serialized series with original elements and placed on Netflix instead of Nick! I have no qualms about two different Ranger Teams in a given year.

Mardakko is a cause for concern, but they might be able to make her Mecha Form work.

Akyanba also gives me some concern.

I have heard that there is more official concern over the pointy appearance of Kajiki Yellow!

LuPat can be made to work in Power Rangers, but it would have to be significantly reduced in terms of Mecha and a balance of how many vehicles a team has would also have to be imposed.