Has Revue Starlight been recommended here?

Oooh, howabout Infinite Ryvius?

Hahah, I've never heard of this!! I didn't realise this was where you got your nom de plume! It looks great!!

Oh, this seems strongly Sakura Wars flavoured—absolutely this is a thing I could into, thank you!!

Gundam Wing was really popular, right?! :p hahah, no really, this looks great, I really like the character designs—I'm sure I remember seeing something about this in a magazine back in the day, it seems really familiar. Thank you! I'm definitely adding this to my burgeoning list now!

The show is basically what if the red ranger was a alpha male dudebro antagonist and the protagonist is the field leader of the evil organization's branch office of that town and was a soft-spoken gentleman with the hospitality of Ma and Pa Kent from Superman. :lolol
The show typically goes either the bad guys try to defeat him but Sunred beats them up and scolds them for their milk toast tone or they genuinely ask for help from one neighbor to another only for Sunred to beat them up and scold them. Either way they are scolded or beaten.:lolol

That sounds amazing! I am already feeling extreme pathos for the "villain". :p

So, you want something like Evangelion? Then may I recommend Inferno Cop.

A bit more seriously, I’m currently watching Yu-Gi-Oh VRAINS, which has as its main character a guy who went through a lot of sh*t no child should have to go through and a lot of the first season is him hunting down the people who put him through it, while the second and hird season go into him dealing with the other fallouts from that trauma (since he was only one of six victims and all of them were captured purely to make a new kind of AI… which were deemed a failure, basically kickstarting a man vs machine plot)

I remember watching VRAINS when it aired and continued to watch it as it went on. Definitely one of the best seasons they did (Though, I still have to finish 5D's). Kind of wish season 3 was a little better, but overall, it was a pretty good season.

Also, according to someone who worked on VRAINS, it was going to go full-on Evangelion, with a "bad ending."

...

... what is this 1980s action movie fever dream, Androzani?!

I have an awareness of Yugioh, but I know so little about it aside from early dubbed episodes being on in the background years ago. Is VRAINS especially continuity heavy? Do I need to know much about the history of the world. I have to confess the idea of starting at a later series triggers my sense of I-must-watch-everything-in-order which puts me off a bit, lol.

That does sound appealing. Gosh, I realise that makes me sound like a particular kind of person who only gets engaged when someone throws around the term "bad ending" but I have to admit that's usually an important selling point for me.

Kudos to Androzani84 for bringing up Inferno Cop. That theme song. :lolol

No no, Inferno Cop is a serious recommendation.

Oh Inferno Cop is a classic and a pretty fast watch too!

Always a fun time!

Edit:

About the Yugioh Questions, usually each series is in it's own separate continuity if I recall. Arc-V is the only one that really tries to bring them all together and I think does the Decade method of them being AR Worlds anyway. And I don't think Vrain's is connected heavily to any prior series.

That being said I'd totally recommend Yugioh GX, while being the most tied to the OG Yugioh, it has it's own fun story and kind of gets very Toku with a "Duel of the Week" kind of thing at the start. Then you end up like towards the end and you wonder "How did I even get here? We were dueling a monkey like so long ago! How are we here in this existential nightmare?!"

As far as I know, that was one of the original ideas they had for the finale, but didn't do it. VRAINS is set in it's own continuity, much like all of the Yu-Gi-Oh! series, so if you did decide to jump in, you wouldn't have to worry. Honestly, never occurred to me you'd have any interest in Yu-Gi-Oh! but I will say, as you may be aware, the dub "kidifies" the show, removing anything violent, suggestive, etc. So if you do decide to check out any of the shows, the original Japanese is the way to go.

I really need to get around to re-watching these old series in Japanese... Especially GX, which was one of my favorites growing up, and the Elemental Heroes being some of my favorite Yu-Gi-Oh! Monsters period.

I want to say I am not convinced, but I am willing to trust your judgement, so I will attempt to watch this, as absurd as it seems, hahah.

This sort of scenario is totally my cup of tea and certainly enough to convince me! I'm in the midst of Magic Knight Rayearth right now, but I think once I finish that, I might try and dip my toe into watching Yugioh, maybe just try a few episodes from each of the seasons and see which one grabs me.

I do like card games, but I never really understood Yugioh, possibly because I only ever saw episodes of the dub briefly. I think I saw something on crunchyroll's youtube about the changes made in the adaptation, and I kind of found that hilarious, so I will definitely try searching out the original version this time!

We talkin Yugioh? Shit, I love that game~
Anime, ehhhhh

Season 0/Toei anime is a closer adaptation of the first few volumes of the manga, featuring way more games than just the card game. It also is more violent than the following anime. However, considering it's status as "Season 0", it basically ends and disappears, and is completely unrelated to the rest of the shows.

Duel Monsters (Or Yu-Gi-Oh Seasons 1-5, as it doesn't really have a subtitle) is focused on selling you cards, yes, but they also want to have more tense duels. As a result, you end up with feature length card games and a lot of Ancient Egyptian cheating to accommodate this. It can be pretty fun when the duels don't drag on too much, though.

GX is more MOTW formatted, with a different duel each episode, rather than one duel lasting 5 episodes. It begins light hearted, but it does take a turn. GX also much closer follows the card game rules (Though Jaden/Judai still pulls wins out of his ass by always having some new fusion).

5Ds began pretty well, but quickly takes a dip in order to sell product (Including altering the rules of it's plot because a new characters' deck turned out extremely popular, so they wanted to market it more in the show). The card games on motorcycle memes aside, it did allow for some more visual flare to the duels beyond 2 guys standing 12 feet apart yelling at each other.

Zexal is a show that happened. Contrary to the dub, you don't pronounce the X.

Arc-V introduced one of my favorite archetypes in the game, Raidraptors. Literally never watched an episode, but hey, thanks for that!

Sevens is a return to the more lighter tone, but considering how GX do, it could take a sudden turn, who knows. It also opted to change duels into Speed Duels, a new method of play, over traditional ones.

...Fuck, I really wanna play some Yu-Gi-Oh, now :lol

I used to enjoy Yu-Gi-Oh until I figured out that a lot of the cards in the show were designed as plot devices rather than fun cards to actually play with. I mean, you can still play with them but the execution is terrible IMO...

I loved reading this post, thank you! I am an absolute sucker for anything with deep lore like this, so reading your insights on each of the shows and how they relate to the game was really interesting for me, even if a lot of it went over my head as I don't yet have the context. Yet. One day soon, though...

*nods* I get this approach. As someone who embarrassingly invented her own card game and then started writing stories around it, I can see how the need for "X" to happen in the narrative could result in some pretty OP mechanics, but I also find it kind of an appealing puzzle to look at and try and deconstruct. I think I might have to look at this in greater detail once I get home.

Yugioh used to be fun for me up until we got to the Arc-V Era when they brought out the new type of summoning that just made me lose interest. Vrains especially so when they decided to alter the game entirely. So I just stuck with Duel Links whenever that came out.

That being said yeah, always go for the sub over the dub of any Yugioh Season, mostly because from what I recall aside from the OG Yugioh, none of the later seasons have complete dubs. They usually stop before the final season or arc.

That being said in terms of dubs being talked about. GX is usually one that gets talked about the most. I don't know what was going on in that dub in regards to direction but there's a lot of sudden actor impersonations for various characters, whether it be Christopher Walken, Arnold Schwarzenegger, etc... GX was weird, but also probably my favorite of all the seasons.

It was always funny that the cards in the show were always so busted that when they came out in real life, they were nerfed to the ground.
Or, the card has one incredibly specific purpose that the main character wins with, but in real life, that super specific set of circumstances rarely comes into play that the card is worthless :lol

Yu-Gi-Oh very much a product of it's times. The early 2000's toy (Or, well, in this case, card) shill. However, it's longevity both in terms of being an actually well made game and a popular and memetic anime is a sign of it's impact.
I would never go so far as to call the anime good, but hey, it actually manages to make decks that are utter trash in real life look super hype, so it does something right :lol

I think, if you didn't grow up with Yu-Gi-Oh, nor do you actively play the game, you might find it to be as interesting as the million other toy shill anime, but hey, it has to have some charm if it's stuck around for over 20 years now.

When it comes to Yu-Gi-Oh, I would stick with the manga. The anime has way too many fillers, and multiple part episodes. I found myself being annoyed with the show when I try to re-watch it a few years back.

You're warning me off the dub, I know, but this paragraph just completely sold me on the idea that the dubs are the optimal way to experience Yugioh, lol.

Yeah, I sort of appreciate that I am an outsider with this, but I watched all of the original Beyblade and Dino King, so maybe I can do this—although, admittedly I watched both of these because I needed something in the background so I could sleep, which maybe doesn't qualify as watching per se, but still. :p

I'm not sure I'd have the patience for the manga. I don't mean that in a disparaging way, but I don't really read a lot of comics/manga anymore, and when I do I'm usually re-reading old Vertigo stuff or it's something I'msuper into like Made in Abyss, so I have absolutely no doubt that the manga is possibly the best way to engage with the story, but I might try the show first. Worst case scenario, at least I can sleep through the filler!

When it comes to Yu-Gi-Oh I always found the very early chapters of the manga fascinating, when there were new games and challenges each chapter, before the series focused solely on the card game. It was a bit simpler, a smaller scale, yet interesting IMO. Yugi's second personality was rather terrifying back then, almost evil. It was a bit gruesome and gory sometimes too, although even later chapters were like that sometimes.

The mystery behind it all was also rather cool, the Egyptian themes were a bit less obvious so when it came into play it expanded the world nicely. I don’t dislike the direction the franchise went into, even the later stories are sill interesting and even the card game was a bit more fun in the manga as it was almost a proper role-playing game with the amount of rules and stuff. Like how flying monsters can't fall into pits or machines are immune to magic. Won’t make sense in a balanced TCG but for having fun in a fictional world? Pretty cool stuff.

Sometimes I re-read the manga, never really got into the anime.

Oh, it's not a serious show at all, but I do think it's worth watching. It's from Studio Trigger, so the same people responsible for Kill la Kill, SSSS Gridman, Gurren Lagann, etc. if that helps.

On the topic of Yu-Gi-Oh, it seems like people have been pretty thorough but I'd like to give my input.

It started off as a manga series about a gamer, and they would play a variety of games. One of the games was Duel Monsters, which ended up becoming super popular, and the manga focused more and more on it as it went along. The first anime, which is just called Yu-Gi-Oh but referred to as Season 0 by fans, is an adaptation of the beginning of the manga, and focuses on a variety of games. It's not an exact adaptation of the manga, though. Then, they made a second series, also called Yu-Gi-Oh, which picks up in the story at the same point where Season 0 left off, but they're separate continuities and the second series solely focuses on the card game. This was the first season to come to the US.

Since the card game was invented as an in-universe game, they didn't have a strict ruleset to follow, so the matches were determined based on what would be interesting to watch. When the card game came out irl, they had to come up with actual rules for it to follow, which the anime and manga gradually incorporated.

I've only season Season 0 and the first two main storylines in the second series (Duelist Kingdom and Battle City). Season 0 is great, I highly recommend it. Season 1 is fun and has held up better than you would expect, but it's still an early 2000s anime about kids playing card games where the rules were made up as they went along.

That is totally my viewpoint, especially considering some of the dialogue from the dub of the specific series I originally recommended.

“Feet, don’t fail me now. Wait, I don’t have feet.”

“(Internal) Maybe I can bluff him. (External) That’s exactly my plan. (Internal) I never was good at bluffing.”

“I sold your entire comic collection to buy film.” “But digital cameras don’t use film.” Don’t you think I realise that now?”

“Oh look at that, I made an offensive play. That’s why they call this Duel Monsters and not Solitaire Monsters.”

“We’re looking for a guy named Bohman.” “Does he have a bow?” “No, but he does have rock hard abs.” “I think I’d remember someone like that, even if he had a bow.”

“Ai, you are special…” “I’m listening.” “Unique in every possible way…” “Go on.” “Because you are the laziest, most self-absorbed AI that has ever existed.” “Say what?”

“If you’d told me last week we’d be teaming up with the Knights of Hanoi (the arch enemies of the two characters in the conversation), I’d have told you to write more realistic fanfiction.” “So would I.”

“I’m sending you to jail. Because you belong in an orange jumpsuit, not a white sweat shirt.” “Sorry, orange isn’t my colour.”

And those are just my highlights.

My favorite out of context line ever comes from the dub of Zexal.

"You just summoned your mom."

If we're dishing out quotes , here's one of my favorites from GX

"Let's all shout at the same time and hope for the best!"

*split screen between six characters*: "Yeah!"

*Remembers the Zexal dub*

Dear god...

Context: That was the breaking point for me when it came to Yu-Gi-Oh! and dubs in general. I could not stand Yuma's (The Protagonist for that series) voice, and I was losing interest in general.

But then Arc-V came, which also marked the first Yu-Gi-Oh! series I saw in Japanese and to completion. It was good until about Season 3 for me. Though, apparently there was some issues behind the scenes, which may have affected the finished product. Now I loved the Monsters in Arc-V (Yes, even the Entermates) and the characters and premise were great, it just sort of fell apart later down the line, which is a shame.

Now the current series, Sevens, is helmed by a different studio and is actually better than I thought it would be. My only criticism is that it was being advertised as an anniversary series, but so far the only thing remotely anniversary is the appearance of some Legacy Monsters and that's about it, but overall, I'm enjoying it.

Yu-Gi-Oh! is certainly an interesting show (There's even a Toku influence as the creator loves Ultraman, and it's apparent in GX with the Elemental Heroes. Also when did this become a Yu-Gi-Oh! Thread? XD) that has some really neat monsters and stuff. But of course, it's not perfect, and not every series is quite for everyone (in taste), but it's something I still find myself coming back to every now and again.

(Edit) Here's one of my favorite Dub moments from the Original: Joey and Tristan's Manly Victory Song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TFIv7EcHdc

When you are the chosen hero but your antagonist dad is Ark from Kamen Rider Zero-One but with dragon powers, and one of your villain-turned-hero partner is Zenkai Gaon on Sundays. :lolol
For those interested this is Dai No Daibouken and is a spin-off of the Dragon Quest franchise. The manga was serialized alongside the likes of Dragonball from the late 80s to late 90s in Shonen Jump and was by the same people who did Beet The Vandal Buster, story penned by Riku Sanjo(yes, THAT Riku Sanjo who gave us Kamen Rider W and Kyoryuger) and art by Koji Inada.

That's definitely a detail that gets my attention! I think it's clear by now that I have a fondness for ambiguity when it comes to protagonists, so I can imagine this being something I really enjoyed. It does sound like the people behind the show really excelled in making this stuff up on the fly, though I can imagine that must have been a nightmare for anyone trying to keep everything consistent 20 years later. :p

I never saw Kill la Kill though everyone shouted at me for not having watched it at the time. I have mixed feelings about Gurren Lagann, it felt a lot like Diebuster to me—but it's been so long since I saw either of these shows that maybe my feelings will have changed by now.

Haha, that is genius!

This is equally brilliant! I am absolutely going to say this to my brother as my new default insult!

You can't go wrong with a bit of meta, right?

I have a soft spot for some dubs, even though I've never been super fond of them as a rule; it's frustrating when it doesn't feel like the people adapting the series are taking it seriously, especially when it's something you care about, so I totally feel you here.

I thought this lead-in was going to be the beginning of an absolute car crash of a fanfic, Sunred! I'm almost disappointed that it's not.

The dubs do tend to insert some pretty fun lines to help break up some of the more formulaic moments.

I don't remember much of Zexal, since I was bored by it. One big problem I had was that the goal was to collect the 100 Number monsters, special cards with strong effects.
Despite doing said task, the main character only really uses like, 10 of them, ever. Instead, his personal number, Number 39: Utopia, gets a billion different forms.

This feels... oddly on brand as a post on a site that talks a lot about recent Kamen Rider shows. :p I think this is kind of an issue with a lot of these shows, live action and animated, where the easiest way to fit the multitudinous toys/cards in is to have a fetch quest and it doesn't always work in the best interests of the story, sadly.

Ah, you win some, you lose some, I guess?

Well, I didn't mind the fetch quest, just that, instead of having the MC make use of the literal 100 special cards he had to find, he instead used variations of his personal boss.

Like, imagine in Kamen Rider OOO, Eiji and Ankh still collected all the various medals, but instead of using like, ShaUTa, they used Super Taka, Mega Tora, Batta 3 and etc :lol

So in Zexal, we had a main character with a massive variety of monsters he could use, and instead, he just used Utopia, but with bigger wings, or Utopia with a lion sword :lol

Hahah, I see your point here, that does sound kind of absurd. Although, this is also reflective of exactly how I tend to play Pokémon games, so maybe I kind of relate here, lol.

Yeah, I barely change out my lineup either. Though Alpha Sapphire is the only game where I cleared the game with my oldest six.

I usually don't evolve them either, because recent starter evolutions... haven't been cute. (>_>)

Meanwhile, last gen featured my favorite starter and new all time favorite Pokemon, Primarina :lol

And concerning YuGiOh, I guess part of the reason why them collecting and opting to not use the Number monsters irked me so much was because of Battle City in the OG series, and seeing Joey (Another lead cast member) collecting and modifying his deck.

Detroit Metal City. :rock::rock::rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WOS1WNGrgU

There's also a live action movie with the guy who played L (Kenichi Matsuyama) as the MC. And a special appearance of Gene Simmons from KISS himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k2mo2t5l40

Last gen gave us Litten, who is my favourite! I actually adore everything about Sun/Moon, tbh.

Watching a character customise and improve their deck seems like a big draw for a series so I can totally get why it would be frustrating to see later Yugioh shows just not take advantage of that.

Hahha, as endearing as this is, I might be a little too inclined towards the Transilvanian Hunger school of face-painting to truly appreciate this.

It seems cute though... but please, don't start a conversation with me about music, otherwise you will be stuck here all day because I don't know when to shut up. :p

While this thread's still goin, I present Yuru Camp if no one hasn't yet! They weren't kidding when it's just a fun comfort show. I just got through S1 a few months ago while I was at a quarantine zone while I got the 'rona rona.

Gonna get through S2 soon!

https://thechuunicorner.files.wordpr...09/lt1wfa0.png

Please give DMC a shot especially the Jack Ill Dark episode. :D :D :D

This thread will outlive me! Oh, this looks super cute, I like the style of the design. It looks a bit like Koisuru Asteroid which I saw an episode of recently.

Hmmm, I'm only trusting you because you have the best Autobot leader as your icon. Consider it added to this very long list I now have, lol.