Toei has repeatedly shown that they are unable or unwilling to put in any effort to making their shows more available outside of Japan.

This is pretty much exactly what I came here to say.

I think specific story influences are difficult to find, but Power Rangers' success absolutely played a huge part in the development of Sentai from a production and business perspective.

This might be controversial to suggest, but I'm not sure Sentai would still be around today if it weren't for Power Rangers. And I say this as someone who loves Sentai but hasn't cared about Power Rangers in literal decades.

All this is correct from a theoretical point of view, but in practice, the least successful in terms of Western adaptations ridersearn more than both Ultraman and Sentai.

I know this a is a random reference but Gokaiger has a RPM reference. Go-onger never had the tires on their boot and glove cuffs rotate. RPM did. Gokaiger had the go-onger suits use the tires in the RPM way.

I think they're unwilling. And while on the subject, I just wanna say that the Toei Tokusatsu World Official youtube channel is a piece of junk because it feels like a channel they made just to say that they are making efforts to reach the overseas fans, blah blah blah while not putting a whole lot of effort into it in reality.
As for Power Rangers, I hope it isn't axed. I enjoy super sentai more but it feels like a waste to get rid of it. Just no more fidgeting in mecha from other source material please. And seeing how Cosmic Fury feels like the end of an era I think it's a good time to refresh whether it's a reboot or a new adaptation.

Thank god for tokuSHOUTsu on Pluto tv. The fact that Pluto and Tubi both have a good Toku presence, enough to even have geats already, is really in the right direction.

Nah, just because the source material is King-Ohger doesn't mean they have to go Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog with it. Hell, that's the fun part of Power Rangers. The Zyurangers were prehistoric JRPG characters but OG MMPR was Saved By The Bell with superheroes, Megaranger was a school drama while PRiS was Avengers Endgame before Avengers Endgame, and Go-Onger was a team that lived in a trailer with a pocket dimension while RPM was a Mad Max/Terminator hybrid. :lolol
As for Zenkaiger, I can see it be a thing.

It?s comments like this where I wish tokunation?s forums worked similar to tfw2005?s. We need a ?like? system here.

Any way. Here?s my ?like.? 👍

And I am honored. :lolol

You all are grasping at straws to try and make PR much more important to the original Sentai staff when at most it's an afterthought at this point. For example, the concept of 6th rangers weren't popularized by PR for Sentai. If they had become so overwhelmingly hard to ignore then Lightspeed Rescue wouldn't have had to get PLEX to design an American only sixth ranger. Or that Gokaiger's main mechs being chosen cause they had PR adaptations, when in reality nothing suggests it. The picks were actually based on original series popularity, cast member availability, etc; series like Magiranger & Go-Onger being very popular in Japan whereas their American equivalents are not even close. RPM in particular, while very well received by a section of the fandom, is one of the most unpopular. Zyuran is also blatantly based off Geki and he doesn't exist cause of PR.

Aside from little nods and winks here and there, especially currently, Sentai staff are not worrying about how PR is gonna have to deal with adaptation. Notably, no one mentioned the one exact time that the US team had actual active involvement in Sentai and that was Kyuranger's designs which PR promptly ignored for years and never ended up using. Even way back when MMPR was super popular, Sentai producers never once thought of going back to Zyuranger instead only offering to make exclusive new footage for America of more Zyuranger material.

I get people are sad about PR dying a slow, pathetic death but let's not delude ourselves here.

TTWO is a joke. 2 episodes from several shows to entice people to purchase to full series...Only to not have the majority of those shows available for purchase. Numerous region locked stuff, uploads that last a week before being either de-listed or region locked, it's so aggravating.

Exactly. It's truly aggravating when there's a playlist of a show with the episode total listed and then you go in and only 2 episodes are available.

Speaking of Toei, I think we are again ignoring the fact that they are not the only company that has a stake in their shows. The rights to Kamen Rider are divided between them, Ishinomori Production and TV Asahi (+ TTFC rights to exclusive screening of various specials). And Bandai is also unlikely to remain silent. With Sentai, everything is even simpler: the world is divided between them and the Power Rangers, and you can climb into someone else’s territory only after many years and exclusively on DVD. Therefore, bringing its most successful franchises to the West is very problematic for Toei. And Zubat is unlikely to win the hearts of modern children ;)
Also, given all the unboxings of tokusatsu toys I've seen, for some reason it seems to me that Toei receives a percentage for them from companies involved in transporting Japanese goods abroad. Maybe not from everyone, but from the largest ones for sure. This means that there are still several legal entities that are not interested in Toei entering the international market.
So the only way I see Toei really going to conquer the West is if they buy the rights to Power Rangers. But, unfortunately, this is too unlikely.

Toei is such an interesting entity to me because they're like one of the few companies that is kind of fine with what they're making in terms of sales. Like you'd think they'd want more money and try and do heavy pushes to advertise their Toku stuff here but they haven't.

And that's because Toei is more than its Tokusatsu, and as I've come to learn recently, even more than its anime too. They've got plenty of fingers in a lot of pies and it seems like they're not too worried about expansion.

Which is why I have to scoff whenever people talk about their efforts to bring Toku over in comparison to Tsuburaya. Because these are not the same kind of companies. Tsuburaya only has Ultra really, which means international distribution is necessary to sustainability. Toei meanwhile... is so much more massive than that. The scope of everything is vastly different and I wish people would understand that even if I do understand their frustrations.

yeah but they could be making more money, isnt that the entire point of a company

Yeah but that's the entire point of my post. It's such a weird thing to see in this age where billion dollar acquisitions and different methods of trying to rake in money are used to grow. I'd like to lean towards Toei's upper brass being old as all hell, but regardless my point entirely is that it's weird.

Technically no. It?s to provide goods and services to earn a profit. Not be greedy. Some companies take it too far with greed and are usually the ones that die. Look at Bandai of America. They tried to make more money at the success of Dino charge?s auxiliary zord purchases by selling each aux zord as a whole mother megazord during ninja steel. They ended up losing so much money during NS that hasbro had to save PR. Saban tried their hand at a movie to grab the nostalgia that was evident given the success of the transformers movies (even threw in a reference) that barely just broke even. Toei turns a profit by sticking to their core values and providing a product that it stands behind. They care about their properties enough to quickly satisfy toy placement contracts with BoJ early on and deliver stories that a lot of people enjoy. Even series that are ?bad? are still someone?s favorite and they respect all of the individual series as stand alone and not just ?g1? nostalgia. They recognize that every series is someone?s ?g1? and they deliver that. Hasbro is only doing to power rangers what it has done with transformers and that is extremely evident.

at the least hasbro has been making more toys for non-g1 characters in the legacy line. i heard that the guy running the company right now is a big transformers fan, so that's probably why its getting any modicum of respect compared to their other brands

I don't follow PR, but I've been told that Hasbro does a poor job with marketing the series. When Saban came back, at least they know to market their show. Even if you don't watch Power Rangers, you still know that they had new stuff for it. I would see PR merch and other nick-knacks. Saban is also why we got Sentai on DVD in the first place because Shout Factory got approval from both sides.

It seems like Hasbro is not doing much with the series to keep it relevant in the public eye. Some of the kids that I know in my neighborhood don't have any interest with Power Rangers. They like Bluey, Marvel, and Transformers more. While in the 2010s, my cousin's two sons (who are like 8 and 12 now) loved Dino Charge and the other seasons. When I ask them now about PR, they are like "It's still a thing?".

Power Rangers is also a curse franchise with it only appealing to a small group of people. The 2017 movie was the only time PR try appeal to a wider audience like Transformers did a decade earlier, and it still failed.

It?s very true that they?ve branched out into other series and the new guy is definitely making that push. I was talking a bit more pre-legacy to be honest. Like sure you can get an armada Megatron from combiner wars but it was basically g1 Megs with a new head and new paint. Crap like that. Also, and this is more a knock on Hasbro as a toy company, the toys aren?t that great for what they cost now. The fact that only like 7 years ago, the price of a deluxe fig (roughly 5in fig) was $15 and now is $25. Yes inflation is a *female dog* but the rising prices technically started before that. Actually the prices started going up pre-COVID for that matter. The toys now don?t do the legacy non-g1 characters justice. Some are really questionable repaints and others are just poor quality.

Bringing the focus back to power rangers though, I also think Hasbro doesn?t put much effort into power rangers as it currently stands because they don?t technically own the designs, unless it?s created by them like cosmic fury. The don?t have full creative control and I think that?s what has hindered them fully integrating the IP into Hasbro full force. I think they will try and basically not do something toei and Bandai of Japan creates and do something completely new and I wonder if contracts are holding them back more than we know.

Hasbro doesn't put much effort into PR because they didn't want it to begin with. Only the former CEO wanted it, and when he passed, with him went the last vestige of interest in the brand.

They also have more control than you give them credit for. Compared to the Disney era, Toei has definitely loosened their grip, letting both Saban and Hasbro mash multiple seasons together for a single show (As well as seemingly no longer hard vetoing any requests for an animated series)

So far as it stands, there is one 3 (4?) teams of completely PR original teams. The Hyperforce, omega rangers, solar, and I guess the turtles. But none were a tv series. Comics and a tabletop game are far from what Hasbro probably wants to do. Technically toei had been allowing PR to mash seasons together ever since zyu2 so that?s nothing new.

The whole thing about Hasbro not wanting it from the beginning, that?s fair as I did see that news a while ago. In the end they still need to either make it profitable or sell it off. They could also just let it end. I mean the show as a whole did give us all the closure we could ask for as fans. I?m a day oner and have never stopped watching. So much so to also get my kids into to it to some degree. I?m satisfied with where it ended. Maybe not everyone is but I will be happy to see it not be forced to continue. Reboot? Sure why not. Animated series/movie adaption of comic stories? I?m here for it. Trying to force the show to continue? It?s done. Let it be done. The property shouldn?t stay dead. It just needs to have new life breathed into it.

Haven't had enough time to devote to this, but there are a few points to make.

As we've seen in PR and Sentai, "Dead Zords" don't always stay dead! They can come back and we can continue adapting Kyuranger if the desire to do so is there. Sadly, there is no desire.

I don't think that the length of time in between 2017 and now is enough of a reason to not produce a follow-up to the Movie Continuity. Scenes set in the past can be used to provide background and a setup for the present day events. The fact that some of the actors have aged only means that getting all of them back might prove difficult, but I think we could convince some of them to come back and show what happened in the interim between 2017 and now.

The long-standing theory that Zyu2 Black Ranger Zack with Tommy's Dragon Shield and armbands was the basis for Kingranger in Ohranger has yet to be mentioned here. Granted, it was Toei doing something for PR that inspired Toei, but still.

Does nobody remember the G-Zord from Timeranger? That was the mecha who canonized the term "Zord" in Sentai long before Go-Busters!

The Kyoryuger Spirit Rangers were supposedly inspired by the Jungle Fury Spirit Rangers.

Granted, a lot of these are just winks and nods and Toei taking inspiration when and where they can, but it does show that people involved in Sentai aren't always opposed to PR and are willing to give them some kind of credit where it's due. Also, Power Rangers is occasionally dubbed over for the Japanese market and the brand recognition is why South Korean dubs of Sentai use the name. It was "Power Rangers Dino Force Brave" before it was "Kyoryuger Brave"! Just sayin'.

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The sheer number of PR-Exclusive Rangers is staggering and much more involved than a handful of exceptions thanks in no small part to BOOM!

Granted, some are just variants on top of variants, but the significance of such uniqueness cannot be ignored.

What aggravates me about so many of these Rangers is the sheer lack of memorabilia to promote them! Some exist largely as LC figures without any real fiction to back them up, like the Cobra Kai Crossover Rangers. Not even the Hyperforce Rangers have actual figures to their name save for tabletop figurines, and that's an issue that goes back to Saban and Bandai!

So the thing about those characters are most are just extras to existing teams. I meant specifically completely original teams. I do agree that most have barely any fiction to back them up and would love to see them get something.

Not Saban hopefully.

Share the sentiment. I don't think he was ever all that trustworthy to begin with.

Didn't the mods make an April Fools joke a year ago about Lionsgate buying the franchise outright? Maybe the mods were being unintentionally "Simpsons Predict The Future" prophetic!

If Saban Brands even still existed, I'd absolutely vouch for them getting the show back. Atleast they were all in on it.

you know how was the good time with Bandai toys.

Dino charge was the only time the Bandai of America toys were good. Though Bandai of America was being run by Greg during that time. Any time after or before that (where it wasn?t just the Japanese toy which were good) was garbage.

Disagree. The Legacy line still has the best prop replicas we've ever seen. To the point that Once and Always used the Legacy Morphers rather than the Lightning Collection ones.

I?ll give you that and I do agree but I interpreted the question to be more so the mainline toys for the airing series. Not the collectibles.

you know bandai made toys from all of both japanese produtions of anime and tokusatsu that's why i realize power rangers is a toku production too.

I know they also made Dragon Ball Z figures. I also acknowledge that Bandai of America and Bandai of Japan did everything separate after a certain point. RPM iirc.

don't forget other brands i like such as Gundam Digimon Saint Seiya one piece demon slayer my hero academia naruto Godzilla and now Ultraman.

People hated Saban in the 2010s. Funny how people wanted them back during the Disney era and regreted it. And now people want them back again.

Truly we live in a cycle.

And? I liked the Neo-Saban Era.

i forgot to say Power Rangers was suppost to be a franchise brand from bandai america.

No thanks, I like Saban Films more now as the company that gave me Clerks 3. We gave them one more crack at it and overall it was hit or miss. The IP needs to be handled by a company who could do it justice, preserve the legacy while pushing it forward to new grounds. Voltes V Legacy and Netflix Voltron are shows I think whoever holds the IP next should consider as reference material and pick the best practices from both shows.

Legendary Defender is probably the worst example you could've chosen for your point, given that it's almost nothing like either Voltron or GoLion.