My recommendation to everyone before they waste more energy is that you all just leave this person to run this fantasy thread they took over for themsleves, without further acknowledgement.

phoenix from kamen rider wizard will be revived long before you spark anything even remotely resembling a debate in this thread

the only debate you've ever started(I'm being generous here by calling it a debate) here is how silly you look by talking about squid game and k-dramas every post

no one fucking cares that other foreign shows have massive fanbases in the US except you. toku doesn't have to be big in the US just because everything else is. it has affected no one's enjoyment aside from your fragile self-esteem

again, stop speaking for entire communities whom you know jack shit about. go make a fanfiction about an alternate universe where toku is the new squid game

with that being said I feel really bad that anyone could be this embarrassed about enjoying toku - to the point you're jealous that squid game has a massive following

ah a billion pages later and you still have no idea how absolutely fucking absurd and stupid it is to make a statement like this. lord christ almighty please help this one

as I and many others have said previously again and again, you genuinely have zero idea what you're talking about and you shouldn't speak for entire fanbases like you know what anyone but yourself wants

I'm still in absolute awe at how much this reeks of a kid trying to get his divorced parents back together

Wow that's immature.

I have absolutely no right to say this considering how I just called out mdo7 on reviving the forum again and again but I'm kind of enjoying this? I shouldn't, but I am. It's like a guilty pleasure at this point.

I should really get off the internet and go touch some grass.

What I think we should do is get more notice on other shows like Armor Hero :lol

If I'm being completely honest, I think I've developed a hatred for K-Dramas and C-Dramas solely because of this thread and out of spite rather than actually just not being into it, and I will never ever give either the chance or time of day now.

to be frank I've had zero interest in k-drama for the entirety of my life and I thought squid game was so good I watched it twice(once with my friends and again with my girlfriend)

but I'm flabbergasted at the mental gymnastics that this guy has tried to go through to convince anyone that he has any justification for his fantasy other than "I'm embarrassed to talk about kamen rider with my friends because it isn't mainstream"

boredom's got us down bad

So basically, anyone who likes any toku should like all other things with special effects in them. That's... absurd. Because I'm not sure if you're aware of this, there's more to a show's quality than its effects. By that logic, because I like Kamen Rider, I should love the DC movies. But I don't like the DC movies. It also means that since I like one season of Kamen Rider, I should like every other season of Kamen Rider because they're all effects-heavy. Yet I love Gaim, but absolutely despise Saber. Would you like to address that?

This whole argument of yours comes off a bit racist as well. Just assuming that because on Asian genre is doing really well, every other one would do well too.

By the way, Squid Game is objectively better in every single way, effects and otherwise, than any toku ever made. Just accept that. You really need to get over yourself. We get it, you're ashamed that you like toku. Just grow up and... stop.

That feeling of something being really popular and well-liked a majority that it gives the opposite effect on you... K-Dramas (and/or Kpop as well) been large around here for a really long time that I've basically distanced myself real far from it.

nah man you gotta start mingling with the kdrama fans they'll point you in the right direction :lolol

Why aren't you getting this up and arms about the success of shows like Doctor Who, or the Arrowverse? I'd argue those are much closer to toku than this vague monolith of "k-dramas" that you seem to only be able to name one of.

Very cheesy special effects, costume designs, and general atmosphere, (with of course standouts to this), with a moderately large to huge following. I imagine they are the closest to toku getting mainstream wester success.

And it all comes back to the question of who cares? You seem to clearly be alone here in caring this much. As I've said, I'd love it to gain some form of following just to make it and merch a little more accessible, but I'm not going to be unrealistic and ask it to be the next Squid Game or whatever huge Netflix original you are obsessed with it becoming.

Toku, by it's very nature, is silly. You can dress it up in tons of different ways, fill it with gore, give it a well written story...but at the end of the day it still comes back to people in rubber or spandex suits hitting each other. And that is simply too silly for a wide stream western audience. And that's okay.