I think it was a mixture of attached and hand held. Shoulder cannons are attached then the rest are hand held

What? There are four. Long, mid, short, and the water cannon. Did you just miss that?

Honestly, I just think this mode would work better if he had a base gun weapon upon transformation. Then four different attachments could be swapped and equipped on to it. It differentiates this from from the other two more. One has armor added on. The second gets four entirely unique melee weapons, and the third has four attachments to an already existing weapon. Also, that way Paleo can still fight effectively even without activating the additional powers. Of course he's got basic hand-to-hand in Thero form, the basic gauntlets alone in Quadro form, and a basic gun without attachments in Aqua form.

Yeah that's pretty much what I said earlier

Also for the weapon the water cannon should be a burst/grenade type that way we have

Short- bayonet/grappling hook (to match with quad forms melee lance that can be used for ranged)
Mid- gattling gun
Long- sniper
Burst- water cannon

The base gun could just be a pistol or something

Sorry, I missed the water cannon.
Perfect. Let's go with this and just decide on the dinos.

Well, hold on just a sec. Actually. He'll have a base gun without any of the dino abilities activated. So what if the basic mode for the Aqua cannon sucks up water into a reserve and fires it as a pressurized stream. Then each of the dino power attachments transform the water supply into different ice-based projectiles.

-Sniper
-Gatling
-Harpoon
and
-Ice Blast (shotgun burst)

Can't we just ditch the water sucking, since Im sure there might be situations where a water source isn't present. We could just justify it that the weapon absorbs moisture in the air.

Also someone should update the first page with what we've decided so far for future reference

Alright sure. Although I sort of want that to be established. That the water supply comes from SOMEWHERE. Like maybe if there was a monster who drys everything and pulls moisture out of the air, rendering Aqua useless in that situation and forcing him to go Thero or Quadro. I also think that so the form isn't too overpowered, the supply should be able to be exhausted. Like maybe if he fires faster than the weapon can absorb moisture, the cannon stalls for a bit. Anywho. Regardless:

Base Gun - Water Stream Cannon
Dino Powers
Short Range - Ice Blast
Mid Range - Gatling
Long Range - Sniper
Grapple/Tether/Bayonet - Harpoon

Much better

Also I don't really think its that op. A tiny blade on a gun isn't gonna do as much damage as a giant sawbladed sword serving as an emergency defensive weapon (thus the grappling hook) since Aqua probably won't be able to take much damage if we were to go with fighter-knight gunner rpg logic. We could make it that each mode has a set number of shots that can be fired before recharging thus justifying the need for a melee/get-away weapon

And grappling hook + sniper. Do the math

I think we're good to go now. Let's match up the dinos for each gun mode.

Just had a question not related to this. Does a Duke Lemon Arms signature appear under my posts because I've heard it doesn't show up.

Long Range-Sniper= Plesiosaur.

I second that. And I think, given the rowed shark teeth idea, Megalodon is practically decided for the mid range Gatling gun right? Although didn't someone have issue with the gap between eras concerning Megalodon and some of the others? Does anyone else feel that's a problem?

Just a question: will the dino powers be attachments to the main gun or not?

I agree for plesio and sniper. This is Kamen Rider, anything can happen, so let's not let time periods get in between megalodon and Paleo.

I like the idea of attachments. Makes it simpler. But since we're using a handgun type as the base weapon for Aqua, attachments will be kind of hard to do, conceptually speaking.

It doesn't really have to be a handgun. It can be a buster rifle or something. I mean, the base of the weapon is a water cannon, and we don't want that looking like a squirt gun. :p

Oh yeah, I forgot about the water cannons.

I think either Mosasaurus/Kronosaurus or any one of the dozen prehistoric marine reptiles that looks like that might work for the Ice Blast/Shotgun weapon. But the harpoon is kind of stumping me...

Plesio - Long range sniper
Mosasaurus - ice blast shotgun
Megalodon - Gatling mid range
??? - Harpoon

Pretty much anything can work for the last one, it just needs to have a slim body and dangerous look to it.

What about Ichthyosaurus for the harpoon? As I've gathered (and I could be wrong) they represent a number of species (Ichthyosauria) which are similar to it. Same as Plesiosauria and Mosasauria both of which have numerous creatures that all look practically the same with only size or slight feature variation.

Ichthyo sort of has a thin pointed snout (almost like a swordfish) so it works for me.

Kamen Rider Plamo: Transforms using plates and a belt with side cutters.
Inner Frame (The base form, like Den-O plat form.)
Action Armor/normal form. Weapons: Side cutters, Hobby Knife Halberd, Cement gun, File sword.
Auto Armor: Airbrush Spray (Acid, Cement and Liquid Nitro.) And chrome camo (Mirror coating.)
Aero armor: Wingblades, booster rockets and landing gear tonfas.
Military armor: Tread Feet, Chest cannon, Shoulder missles. (Very BIRTHDAY-ish mode.)
Mecha Armor: Beam Sabers, Machine Gun, just gundam esque weapons.
How does he/she henshin?
1. Insert plate into slot.
2. Press down on Nippers. (If no plate is in, it will be inner frame form.)
3. The inner frame suit forms around them, and a giant Plastic model plate will form in front and back of them.
4.The plates close in, engage, dissappear and The Rider is born
Inner frame= Gray suit with silver highlights, a few armor pieces and clear eyes.
Action Armor= Orange Armor with red Eyes, Round Kuuga-like design.
Auto Armor = Black armor, Flame decals, Engine parts. Yellow eyes.
Aero armor= Blue/white armor, Wings on back, boosters on butt. Blue eyes.
Military Armor=Green with camo armor, Tank tread feet, Tan eyes.
Mecha armor= Gundam colors, Gundamy eyes, basically gundam.
That is a lot for a first post.

Ha! Neat. Cool fan idea, but you might be missing the point of this thread. :p

Sorry Winspector, but this a Kamen Rider we all make together. That's why it's called our own Kamen Rider.

I'm fine with ichthyosaurus.

Ice blast shotgun - mosasaurus
Long range sniper - plesiosaurus
Mid range Gatling - megalodon
Harpoon - ichthyosaurus

Now it's time for the finisher.
Are we going with the base gun and the power ups are attachments to the base gun?

maybe we can combine the properties of each gun like a barrage of ice javelins fired at full auto, or we could go Mami Tomoe and have all the attachments appear at once and simultaneously shoot the enemy repeatedly,

or we could just make it a giant beam

I was just visualizing all four attachments combining with the base gun in some way to create a big 'ol buster cannon that he fires a mega-charged beam with. Again, just like the Thero and Quadro finishers, there would be some kind of elemental visualizations of the four dinosaurs.

considering that the attachment parts probably aren't really that big, The combined size would probably only be as big as Zolda or G3's big gun

So we're doing the combined thing again. I like the idea so I'm cool with it. I don't about you guys, but I think we're good to go for Aqua and we can move on to aerial.

yeah i'm good too

so about aerial..maybe we should call this winged form instead it sounds cooler

the ideas I could think of are interchangeable wings with different functions

- Blade wing - can cut through stuff (duh) can also be detached and tossed like a boomerang

-Lightining wing- shoot lightning

-Sonic wing- break the sound barrier through sheer speed can cause shockwaves

- Bit wing- pieces of the wing can detach and chase enemies like GN Fangs

- Glider- The wing has built in machine guns and can detach and be ridden Green Goblin style

Those are the ideas I have for now

Combined Finisher - either The wings pile together and turns Paleo into some Reptilian Seraph and dive towards enemies while covered in energy.

or The wings detach and pile together to form some sort Giant Reptilian Shuriken (If I were to form my own band, I'm naming it that) to be tossed at the opponent

what do you think?

Love the ideas but how about a Seraph like bow for the combined form. I always liked the idea od winged warriors using bows XD

That works too

There's just something that doesn't sit right with me about changing wings. It just somehow seems less inventive than the other forms so far... I dunno. I'll think about it.

I agree with Rollout. The wings are just weird, but then again we don't have a better idea.

Well, considering how pretty much all of the winged dinosaurs had the same wing type, only difference was span, I think it's rather hard to come up with something. So, instead on changing the wings, why not give Paleo one set of wings on his hack, a set on each wrist, and a set on his ankles. The changing thing could be the material used, or make this a completely elemental type of form. Each form is just a shift of elemental alignment.

Just to make a point on things we've decided:
Thero form:
Element - Fire
Changes: Armor
Dinos - T-rex - "muscle" armor for increased strength
- Utahraptor - shin armor and feet claw, increased speed
- Spinosaurus - lower arms armor, forearms blades
- Carnotaurus - glowing spiked back armor, fire strikes
Finisher: adds all of the armors and Paleo performs a Rider kick with fiery projections of the dinos

Quad (or Quadro?) form
Element - Earth
Changes: Weapon
Dinos - Triceratops - spiked shield
- Stegosaurus - greatsword
- Brachiosaurus - extendable lance
- Ankylosaurus - quake hammer
Finisher: weapons combine into a giant sword and Paleo performs a Rider slash together with rocky projections of the dinos

Aqua form:
Element - Water and Ice
Changes: Attachments into a main gun
Dinos - Plesiosaurus - sniper mode (long range)
- Ichtyosaurus - harpoon mode (melee)
- Megalodon - gatling mode (mid range)
- Mosasaurus - ice blast shotgun mode (short range)
Finisher: all the attachments combine into the main gun and Paleo performs a Rider shooting together with watery projections of the dinos

Is that it?

Yes.

That's my biggest problem with the changing wings idea...

ALTHOUGH. We got a hand-to-hand fighter, a melee weapon fighter, and a range fighter... What about (essentially, not literally) a mage archetype?

Like. Thero's Carnotaurus gives him fire punches and kicks. Quadro's Ankylo lets his make earthquakes with his hammer. Aqua's gun lets him shoot streams of water and the modes give him ice attributes. But what if Winged/Aeria form is purely elemental? It could legitimately "bend" the elements rather than harnessing them in a specific way. That could justify it as the mid-season upgrade or something, but doesn't make the other forms obsolete.

He could have Fire, Earth, Water, and Wind typed wings that on top of allowing flight each let him control the element unconditionally. YEAH, it sort of devalues Carnotaurus specifically, but that's only a natural victim of evolution.

For balance, this form could lack ANY heavy armor so that the other forms aren't too terribly affected by its existence. It wouldn't be durable enough for hand-to-hand like Thero, as tanky or equipped as Quadro, and doesn't posses the range of Aqua. BUT it's powerful enough in its own right to sort of be the equivalent to Formula, Kachidoki, All-Dragon, etc; the second to final form.

All the other forms are right, but this isn't quite.

-T-Rex: Increases physical strength and adds armor plating to thigh and bicep.
-Raptor: Increases speed and adds armor to the shin and claws to the feet.
-Spino: Adds armor to the lower arm equipped with forearm blades.
-Carnotaurus: Adds glowing armor spikes to the back and allows fire punches and kicks.
Finisher: Adds all of the armor parts on together and performs a fiery rider kick.

Now, some suggestions:
I think the finishers should be called (name of the form) Savage, like: Thero Savage, Quad Savage, Aqua Savage, etc... It fits the theme of the Rider and it sounds cool :3
As for the Aero form, I think it would be nice if he yes changed wings and flying attributes, but in different parts of the body, like on the forearms, on the back, on the legs and on the arms as a whole, kind of how GreenPsychoRanger suggested.
About the dinos (actually, pterosaurs), I'd like to suggest:
Pteranodon - arms wings - supersonic flying
Pterodactyl - forearms wings - bladed boomerangs
Tapejara - legs wings - glider transformation
Quetzalcoatlus - back wings - lightning generation
Finisher: a bit like Thero form. All the wings would appear simultaneously and, with an uppercut, Paleo would send the enemy to the sky. Then he starts spinning, creating a thundery tornado, and flying to where the foe is, to then deliver an electric charged Rider punch together with electrical projections of the dinos.

Edited! Thanks for clarifying >3

I like Psycho's idea too. I think it's a pretty good idea. So far we have three people(including me) on board for Psycho's idea.
For the mid season upgrade it would have to be something else because aerial has to represent wind/sky.

My suggestions for the aerial dinos are pteranodon, tapejara, archaeopteryx, and microraptor (please look up images of this dinosaur, it's an interesting one...)

Quetzalcoatlus is too weird looking in my opinion. Pterodactyl and pteranodon are pretty much the same thing besides their time periods, locations, and size, so let's just use one or the other.

So. Wait. I'm confused by this statement. Psycho's idea, and by extension my support of the basic concept, is in favor of a purely elemental form here right? But the second part is what gets me. If you're in favor of the elemental shifts, how can Aerial only represent wind/sky. On top of that, I can't tell if you agree with it being the mid season upgrade or not...

The way I see it, unless we come up with a GREAT idea for both a different mid season upgrade AND a final form on top of that, we should just stick with the four we've got and an ultimate final. That'll also leave some room for any other secondary riders we might think up later.