Hm...well judging by this. I'm glad I took you guys' advice and went with Kiva first.

W is awesome. I don't even have to watch another KR series to know that. Accel is an okay secondary rider. Not horrible, not amazing.

I do like the look of Gattack, though. I feel like watching Kabuto next.

but double is SO boring. i mean, everything is a two parter. even the final villian is a two episode death

Guys, just because you don't like a series doesn't mean you have to devote yourself to hating everything about it.
Don't worry. It's okay to have a positive opinion about something you hate.

Accel was a well rounded and interesting character given great motivation and grew wonderfully as a character. You can hate Double all you want, but you just have to accept that Accel/Terui is a good character.

Exactly. I may not like the show but Accel is redeeming. As is Skull.

but accel is one of my biggest problems with the series XD

Have you seen Den-O? Watch Den-O.

Anyway episode 5 of Kiva.

Spoiler tags...WAKE UP!

I thought it was good. When I saw Yuri alone I said to myself "not the Spider Fangire...Not the Spider Fangire. Then I saw the web *sigh* that tough guy who threw Otoya out of the cafe...I'm guessing he becomes the 1986 IXA. Speaking of which...Nago was so close to whipping out the IXA Belt! I was like "no way are they revealing IXA this early!" And they didn't. Ok...so does Toei assume that all perverted guys have wavy hair and wear glasses?

Yeah, no. I can't understand this at all. MAYBE I could agree that the beginning is a bit slow, but the show has so much humour and character that I can't believe anyone would find it actually boring.

I mean, Shotaro, man.

Are people who like W allowed to not love Accel and not think he's a good character, but merely an okay one?

I mean, I amire his determination, and how his revenge subplot is handled and resolved, and I like how devoted he is. But he's not very fun to watch and the way he says "Hen........ ....SHIN" is really annoying, especially later in the series where he doesn't have the time to give it much of a pause in battle, so he just sounds weird.

I actually just started Kabuto. I'll do Den-O after. I have a feeling based on this first ep I won't be as enamoured with Kabuto as W.

Ah...ok. your doing it order...that's good.

I really only based my statement on the basis that the ones who hate said series will push everything on the tracks, not because they disliked every aspect of the series (Which is highly unlikely), but because they want to hate it so much they refuse to believe they enjoyed any of it.

And before anyone points fingers and says Decade and Gokaiger at me, I've already voiced tons of positive opinions on both series.