well instead of a mage we could make it into a thief/ninja (not a literal one just the build) type fragile speedster instead .

as for the dinos.. since Quadro and Aqua reflect each other, we could make this one similar to Thero and use something similar to armor parts. ... maybe scarves, gauntlets and boots ..maybe one has a built in crossbow, the boots could provide more acceleration speed ..or something

I was saying the mid season upgrade should be something completely different. After aerial we'll make two more forms, mid season and final. Aerial will be one of the base four forms and should be wind/sky themed.

At the moment, we're at 16 power-ups after four forms. I think that's more than enough. I'm just not sure a separate mid-upgrade is necessary before the final. It certainly doesn't feel very streamlined to me. I want other people's consensus besides ours on this, though.

Well, IMHO the forms we've decided plus a final one are enough, but I think they should have this division if we ever write a story fo Paleo:
Thero-Main form
Quad-Power form, appears around "episode" 7
Aqua-First upgrade(like rising, dragon styles, jinber, dead heat) "episode" 17
Aero-Super form (mid-season upgrade) "episode" 23
?-Final form, "episode" 32
One thing I'd like to point out is that while I defend the fact of Aero being the super form, I don't think it should have all of the elemental powers, because then poor air element wouldn't have a proper form, while the others would. But if we end up deciding to make a different form to be the mid-season upgrade, I think the idea of an Omnivore form would work, together with it having all the elements. Even the name of the form matches perfectly with the powers (Omni means "all").

I didn't want to give the super and final forms any power ups, I just wanted them to be sole forms. We could say the final form has access to all 16 powerups. So let's do the four base forms (thero, quadro, aqua, aerial), super form, and final form. The four main elements should be four base forms.
Let's do a quick little vote here. Who votes for the aerial form to be a super form instead of a base form?
Base Form - 1
Super Form - 1

Ech. I sort of hate the "final form has all the previous powers" cliche that's been happening in recent years.

Actually... I'm fine with Aerial being the wind attribute so long as we come up with four really good powers. I'm also warming up to the idea of having a similar parallel between Thero to Quadro, and Aerial to Aqua. Thero has armor add-ons, Quadro has weapon add-ons. Aqua has weapon add-ons again, and Aerial (or Winged) can have armor add-ons again.

Navy also came up with a decent idea for Super Form. I know we tried earlier without much luck, but if we can come up with four good omnivores, the Super Form can fill that "mage" role I was talking about. Where the four powers are greater control of the four elements established by the base forms.

I want the final form to be something more unique, though.

Okay, I'm fine with everything. I like the parallel idea. I just want to know if you're fine with Aerial having wings on different parts of the body. For example, back, arms, etc. Let's choose the dinosaurs first. I want pteranodon, tapejara, archaeopteryx, and microraptor. Pteranodon and pteractyl are the same thing pretty much except for time period, size, and location, so I'm fine if you prefer pteradactyl.

Alright, I'm fine with Pteranodon, Tapejara and Microraptor. Archaeopteryx no because it's too similar to Microraptor, the only noticeable difference being the fact that while the last has wings on the legs the first hasn't. For the fourth I'd suggest one of these: Thalassodromeus, Tupandactylus, Ornitocheirus or Quetzalcoatlus. It's not my favorite, but in favor of Tupandactylus there is to say that his name is based on a god of thunder.

Tupandactylus is kind of similar to Tapejara, though. I'm in favor of Ornitocheirus over Archaeopteryx.

Can we do archaeopteryx instead of microraptor, since it's more well known. If you want we can do tupandactylus instead of tapejara if you want since it's the same thing. For the fourth one we can go with the ornithoceirus.

Pteranodon
Tupandactylus
Archaeopteryx
Ornithoceirus

I just thought Microraptor would be a great excuse to have wings on the legs for that power-up.

You're right, so we'll go with microraptor then.

Pteranodon - Back Wings
Tupandactylus Head Wings (I didn't know where else to put the fourth set of wings)
Microraptor - Leg Wings
Ornithoceirus - Arm Wings

If you guys want the wings switched around for each dinosaur, we can do it I was just giving an idea.

I imagine the helmet of Winged Form having like... A Pteranodon-like horn/fin thing on the helmet. When the Tupan power is activated, it could fan up in some way to resemble the head crest.

I'm still stumped on what original powers each Dino would give him. Should he be able to fly in all modes, or only with the Ptera wings?

I honestly don't like the idea of head wings. But that seems to be the idea we're going with, so let me make a suggestion. Lets have them lay flat against the sides of the helmet like the old Norse Valkyrie helmets.

So like:

leg wings = blades,
arm wings= shoot boomerang like blades,
head wings= shoot lightning,
back wings= super speed that create sonic booms ( he can still fly without this, just not as fast)

Like Hermes/Mercury?

For the leg wings, let's make the blades feather like since it's the microraptor power up. For arm wings let's make it wind powers since leg wings already has blades.

No I meant the blades can be shot for long range combat, or maybe we can make it an arm crossbow instead

Well, I was thinking closer to a single head fin. Youknow. Like the actual dinosaur. In lieu of that idea, what if each pair of wings instead of appearing from nowhere, folded or fanned out from already existing elements of the armor... Urg. Not sure of an example or how to explain this well...

I like the idea of the lower arm wings becoming boomerang throwing blade... Things. Not a huge fan of a crossbow. Seems too long range. And blades on the legs would be a nice parallel to Thero Spino's arm blades. I think the head slot should be the elemental mode and the back wings make him fly faster and maneuver in the air quicker.

Sure that works too

No, something like this.
http://cdn.instructables.com/F2L/K2R...RFA.MEDIUM.jpg


Or this.
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...a870b40df8.jpg

I think instead of "head wings" the helmet could gain a crest themed after the head of the power up pterosaur (you'll soon understand why).
Pteranodon would give Paleo this crest, which would allow him to create sonic waves, both for attack and for propulsion (as in Ptera power there aren't wings).
Ornitocheirus, as it is the biggest, gives our Rider the back wings, which would have the ability to generate tremendous winds.
Microraptor furnishes the leg wings and with them the power for Paleo to miniaturize himself ("micro" power, I know it's ridiculous but I don't have a better idea and it fits with this being the rogue archetype).
Lastly, Tupandactylus gives the arms wings, allowing Paleo to generate bolts of electricity
What do y'all think?

EDIT: didn't saw the previous 9 posts, sorry if it seems like I'm stealing ideas.

Pteranodon (back wings) - super speed in flight that creates sonic booms
Tupandactylus (head crest and wings) - lightning attack
Microraptor (leg wings) - feather blades
Ornithoceirus (arm wings) - wind attack

By wind attack, do you mean shooting wind projectiles or wind manipulation?

I think the combined finisher should be a diving Rider Punch

I agree with Yuu in the question. Projectiles or kinesis. I think it should be kinesis.

I'll organize my pitch a bit more, inspired by other's suggestions, just for reference:

*Ptera- Back Wings: Allow faster and more maneuverable flight.
*Ornito- Arm Wings: Fold out separately on the upper and lower arms. By swinging his arms, he can sling the lower halves off like mid-range bladed boomerangs that swirl around the enemy before reattaching.
*Micro- Bladed Leg Wings: Similar to Thero Spino's arm blades, but instead on the... Well. Legs.
*Tupan- Head Wing/Fin: An already existing head crest (like a Pteranodon/Speed Biker's helmet) fans up into a fin that let's Paleo conjure lightning bolts. (Like Kuwagata medal on OOO.)

Each form posses limited wind styled undertones to their attacks. That's all I got.

I meant kinesis.

I don't we've ever agreed on something as quickly as this. If everyone else is cool with it lets move on. Can we give Ornithoceirus aerokinesis also?

Maybe the boomerangs create tornadoes as they fly or something? I don't really want any of the base form element manipulation to be direct. I'd want to leave that kind of control to Omni (Or whatever we call the elemental Super Form.)

Sure

Anyway about the mid season upgrade..I'm thinking it could be a mashed up version of all 4 forms similar to DoGaBaKi (that's its name right?) While the final form could be an evolved version of thero+ with new gamebreaking abilities.

Okay, that'll work. Do you want to move on to the super form now?

I think maybe the last two forms should transform with something more than a basic Amber Stone. Definitely the final form at least.

Edit: Can you re-post the driver design or at least tell me what page it's found on again for reference so I can brainstorm attachments?

I'm pretty sure the belt has room for attachment parts

Let's make the super form have a basic Amber stone, but the final form can have an attachment.

As for the super form how about a crudely done combination of all 4 forms like Dogabaki and All dragon.

The final form could be an evolved version of Thero plus some new abilities.

I would think that the super would be the evolved and the final would be the combo.

Again, I don't really like the idea of the final form being a combination "ALL DAH POWARS" form like Cosmic, Kiwami, Tridoron... And I guess Decade Complete in some ways. It just seems overdone.

Yeah, but I still wanna see it again and would prefer not to go digging for it. :p

Well, for the Super - because it combines the elemental power of the first four froms - I pondered the possibility of some kind of DNA Splicer that you insert all of the basic stones into and it plugs into the side of the belt.

Since we have literally no concept to base the final form around yet, I've got no idea about that.

We all agreed the super form is omnivore themed. I was thinking the omnivore amber could have four power ups, but these power ups are based of the four base forms. What I mean is omnivore could have the thero, quad, aqua, and aerial power ups and each limb would be the base for the power up. The omni thero power up could a fiery armored leg with a blade. The omni quad power up could be an armored arm with the combined quad weapon. The omni aqua power up could be a cannon on his other arm. The omni aerial power up could be the other leg and is winged.

That was the original plan, yeah. But we tried and failed to come up with four solid and valid Omnivores before, so I was suggesting an alternative transformation method. Ah well. Anyway.

Not a bad idea for the form itself, actually. But if you're gonna give the Earth mode the combined sword, you might as well give the Water mode its combined cannon instead of an arm mounted one. I'd like to think of it as the same weapon, but less powerful. As if activating the finisher for the individual forms gives a super-charged version, whereas here it's a less OP, long-lasting version.
I do think that on top of the added weapon and/or armor, this form should have unconditional control over the element harnessed too.

-1st Dino: Right Leg - Bladed armor and allowed fire control.
-2nd Dino: Left Leg - Winged armor and allowed wind/storm control (minus the flight ability, though.)
-3rd Dino: Right Arm - Heavy armor, allowed earth control, combined sword.
-4th Dino: - Left Arm - Light armor, allowed water control, combined cannon.

Not sure about the finisher... LOL. I just pictured Paleo attaching the Quadro blade to the barrel of the Aqua cannon and using the gun to fire the sword through the monster. Kinda silly, but it was a thought. :p

Also, I'd like to propose two things. First, that what we're calling "Aerial" be renamed "Sky," if not just so Aqua and Aerial don't start with the same letter. Winged works too, but that's too close to Den-O Wing Form to me. Second, that maybe Sky come before Aqua chronologically, as to keep with the pattern: Armored -> Weaponized -> Armored -> Weaponized.

Why not make it Wing form

And let's make the finisher simple ...like a giant dino hadouken