Goddamn it... -__- Lol.

That just don't make sense. No new episode for Drive and ToQger

Good, it'll give me time to catch up. :lol

Mach in episode 12

http://svc.2chan.net/cgi/g/src/1417940282124.jpg

So let me guess for Shinnosuke to earn his new forms in Drive...

- Wild: It can't activate if he doesn't have a hot passion.

- Technic: It can't activate if he doesn't keep his cool.

And if Deadheat appeared after Mach's debut, it can show to both of them that they can't activate their new transformations without truly working together?

Hmmm....feels pretty early. Minus Gaim, you usually wouldn't see the secondary Rider until the late teens in Neo-Heisei.

That's funny because Kyoryu Gold make his debut too early (his debut episode was in Episode 9)

Kyoryu Gold and Kamen Rider Mach are happen to be on show written by Riku Sanjo

Don't say Neo-heisei. the Emperor isnt in the Matrix and hasn't died.


Mach showing up at ep 12 is the same as Zangetsu Shin showing up which was Gaim's "Secondary rider" introduction since the Genesis drive took the secondary rider belt spot.

Drive started in October and Bandai still wants the Secondary toys to be out for New years (Kids get a lot of money. Grandparents get gifts for kids etc. so its prime toy time) so rather than pushing back the toyline a month to suit they just keep the toy dates the same and have the secondary show up about 4 eps earlier.

Eh I totally get it. I'm actually a fan of when they introduce the other Riders earlier. Just strange is all.

Wonder how many rider Drive will have?

Drive - racing vehicles
&
Mach - motorcycles

What's next?
3rd rider - aero vehicles - ex. F2-Raptor jet
4th rider - aquatic vehicles - ex. submarine
5th rider - trucks
6th rider - rescue vehicles - GoGoV & Boukenger?

Chances are Drive, Chaser, and Mach will be the only riders in the show.

Assuming Chaser is even a rider, of course.

In the show yes, I think we'll get more in movies like Lupin but yeah I don't think we need more besides Drive, Chase, and Mach. I think Chase will take a face turn soon when he finds out more about his past.

Just read an interesting conversation on Twitter. Someone sent Takayuki Tsubaki, the actor who played Blade, screenshots of Blade and Garren with broken helmets and he retweeted those. Then Ryoma Takeuchi, the actor playing Drive, answered that he thought it looked really cool and how he wished he could also have a scene like that, with Tsubaki-san responding how he'd also think it would be awesome to have that in Drive.

A dramatic scene where Drive's helmet is destroyed? Sounds good to me. Hope that Takeuchi-san will get the chance to have a scene like that.

Man such a scene would be killer. Type Speed is awesome enough as it is but a broken helmet version? Yeah that would be the best thing ever.

But will we get a figuart of it? :)

So after watching the Episode 0 raw, I am like 99% sure that Chase is Proto-drive now. The voice and personality are practically the same.

I don't even think they're trying to hide it......the fact they used Chase's actor as Proto-Drive's VA and the on-going "internal struggle" of Mashin Chaser in the actual show basically says it

I'm still wondering what's the connection between Chase and Proto-Drive... I don't know if he is Proto-Drive or if he isn't.

I feel like Proto-Drive being voiced by the actor who plays Chase is a pretty clear indication at this point. All that's left is an explanation and what happens next. Although they could still throw us a curve-ball.

That's good to find out about Proto-Drive being voiced by Chase's actor, I really hope that he is.

I feel like it's too obvious at this point...

Maybe Mashing Chaser is like a clone of Proto-Drive or something. Idk

Then again, the identity of White Wizard similarly felt far too obvious and turned out to be exactly what we expected. Sure it's a different writer, but sometimes Kamen Rider's twists are just blatantly clear.

Either this or chaser is proto drive that has amnesia and thinks he's a roimude but is in actuality a human.

Wait... Drive ep 0 is out allready? Where, I need links!

Go to Over-Time, there's also RAW for TV-kun Special DVD (which is kinda somewhat sequel of episode 0). Subs are expected to release in a few days, just looking at how fast they release subs for each TV episode.

Just got my Break gunner today on a hunch I tried type speed and type wild and the Gunner reads both as DRIVE SYSTEM and then gives a sound effect that 'could' be error sound but then when fired the gunner has a unique sound that only seems to be for the form type shift cars... Makes me wonder if Chaser will have multi-modes through the use of the shift cars. Keep in mind both type spped and wild have the same effect so the gunner reads both the same.

It's also an error-noise, although a different one. The Gunner can't read nor use the new body Shift Cars since they were made after Proto-Drive, and Chaser can only use Shift Cars that used this "old" technology. It would be cool though, if they ever release the black Type Speed that Proto-Drive used, that this one actually can be read and used with the Break Gunner.

But hey, maybe Proto-Drive will come back one day, maybe Chase get's his hand on his old Shift Car and he uses it after realizing who he is. It would be cool if they develop Chase's character to that end that he struggles with himself, but ultimately chooses his own path and becomes Proto-Drive once more to fight alongside Shinnosuke in the finale or something. I would dig it.

It would be cool to see him as proto drive alongside shinnosuke but like wouldn't he need Mr Belt aswell? It would be cool if shinnosuke was out of commission for a few episodes so chase could become proto drive again.

You got me, I totally forgot that.

Ms. Belt maybe? ;D

Just watched Episode 0. Man, I wish this is what the entire show was like. The show improves like 300% without the comic relief characters from the Special Crimes Unit. This was much more dramatic and intense and I freaking loved it.

The reason of why they put comic relief on Kamen Rider Drive because Kamen Rider Gaim was darker Show and they want to do lighter and softer tone on Kamen Rider Drive

I agree, Drive has it's charm with the comic relief, but watching this does make me really wish they have a spin off movies with a more serious tone to it akin to the W Movies.

I think Proto-Drive is Chase for a few reasons. Chase can't kill Roidmudes, Chase needs "find out who he is", and I don't think Roidmudes can clone- they don't seem to have any control over what a Roidmude evolves into. I don't think there is any huge twist. What I think is interesting is how it happened, and how (if he discovers his past) Chase will react and do going forward.

And if it was good comedy I'd be fine with that, but it isn't. It's just the dude waving around his dolls and the chief checking his horoscope and then gurning to the camera. That's not funny. It's almost Shunpei levels of unfunny (almost).

I've been rewatching W and just got done with the Liar Dopant arc, which is legitimately hilarious. W had wacky characters. It had Akiko, who was aggressively comic relief. But W made it work because the comic relief characters still interacted with the plot and did important things outside of making jokes. On that show it was more the interplay between the characters that led to the humor, not just a couple of guys acting weird.

Akiko seeing Phillip in a dress and then having a dramatically over-the-top meltdown, complete with spotlight, was funny. The chief saying "Today's lucky color is blue!" and making a funny face is not.

Hah yea I agree with the chief thing too, them doing close up on his face is tiring now.

Well, I wish there was a comedic running gags where Gou Shijima (AKA Mach) tries to capture the perfect picture but he always missed it.

What is your idea of Gou Shijima's comedic running gags should be? You know more funny than those two guy?

Personally, I'm hoping he doesn't have any recurring joke.

Okay. What about his relationship with Kiriko? That could help him to have important role in Storyline. Could his relationship With Kiriko be estranged relationship? Let find out!

What do you think of his relationship with Kiriko? Is it family drama?

Actually, Proto-Drive is Chase, the ending credit wrote Chase's actor name as Proto-Drive, so yea.