You mean the 12th?

Wow, I have to say, that was the absolute greatest cinematic experience I've ever had. And it was mostly due to the audience. Never have I felt so connected, laughed at the same inside jokes, gasped and clapped at the right moments. This was an audience that KNEW the show, and it was fantastic.

It also helped that the 3D was really good, I hope the Blu-ray release next month is in 3D too.

Truly, that was exhilarating. Moffat you're bloody brilliant. You outdid yourself in this special. Amazing.

any one else say the 5ish doctor reboot yet

Yea. But I'm saying 13th because at the end of Day of the Doctor they all ackowledged him as Doctor

Some scenes from my showing. I was too excited to take photos, sorry. :D

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4050/ukqr.jpg

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all I can say....WIN

im taking it like this you have Hartnels doctor as the orginal then the first regenration happen to be patrick 2nd reneration is pertwee 3rd regen is backer 4th regen is davison 5th regen is colin 6th regen is mycoy 7th regen is paul 8th regen is hurt then you got 9th 10 1th regen being chris david and matt

If the rumors are to be believed, this is apparently the way Moffat is counting things. As with all rumors, take with a healthy dose of salt.


1st Doctor - Hartnell
2nd Doctor, 1st Regen - Troughton
3rd Doctor, 2nd Regen - Pertwee
4th Doctor, 3rd Regen - Baker
5th Doctor, 4th Regen - Davison
6th Doctor, 5th Regen - Baker
7th Doctor, 6th Regen - McCoy
8th Doctor, 7th Regen - McGann
War Doctor, 8th Regen - Hurt
9th Doctor, 9th Regen - Eccleston
10th Doctor, 10th Regen - Tennant
MetaCrisis Doctor, 11th Regen - Tennant
11th Doctor, 12th Regen - Smith

---- Regeneration Limit (As per The Deadly Assassin) ----

12th Doctor, 13th Regen - Capaldi

They did away with the regeneration limit though, I thought. When they rebooted with Eccelson.

They have never mentioned a regeneration limit in the show at all. I never knew it existed until someone said it was talked about in the old series.

Anyway, this special more than made up for the mediocrity of Season 7.

Do you like anything :lol

Some people thought that with the Time Lords gone, the regeneration limit was no longer in force. It's not been explicitly stated on screen, though, to my knowledge. Although, 11 cheekily notes he can regenerate 507 times in the SJA episode, the Death of the Doctor.

I'm pretty sure there is a quote somewhere in which Moffat indicates he wants to address the regeneration issue. I'll try to find it. Spoilers (from sources that have been accurate in the past) for the Christmas Special seem to indicate that is the case.

Edit: Although any pending narrative drama at the regeneration limit was seemingly undermined by a certain scene towards the end of The Day of the Doctor.

He'll think of something.

I just said I liked this special. In fact, I thought it was freaking brilliant. It was energetic, fun, well written. None of which Season 7 had outside of two episode.

Don't over think fan service because that's all it was.

It doesn't matter what the intention was, fanwank or otherwise. It was portrayed on screen and pretty plainly spelled out. Moffat wrote and put something in the special that will undermine the drama of what is intended at Christmas.

This just in: Five(isn) Doctors Rebooted is the funniest thing I've seen in ages :lol

Davison, C Baker and McCoy are always amazing together.

I hear that's amazing, will probably try to catch that today.

You know my absolute favourite scene in the anniversary episode? The one where the three Doctors are confronted with the choice of using the Moment and Clara asking them if they could really do it. What it meant to be the Doctor.

That has to be one of my favourite scenes in the history of Doctor Who watching. So subtle, so poignant and such gravity. In the showing I went to, everyone was silent and hung on every word. Never in my life have I seen a cinema so deathly quiet, so attentive. It's almost as if they all held their breaths.

So while the whole thing was epic...
the last minute "no, all 13!" moment, for some reason made me think of the Kamen Rider movies where randomly the next Rider appears and does stuff.

Finally got around to watching The Day of the Doctor:

Perhaps the strangest - but most enjoyable aspect - is this was downright hilarious, quite easily the funniest thing I've seen all year. Hurt, Smith and Tennant have incredible chemistry.

Sadly, I have less good to say about anyone who wasn't The Doctor in this. I love Eleven's (is that Twelve now?) chemistry with Clara, but Clara was largely benched due to the sheer volume of stuff more important than her going on. Much the same can be said for Rose's basically non existent return that was probably the only time the special was gratuitous in its fanbating (well that and a certain surprise I wont spoil). And Joanna Page? Why is she even here?

Luckily then, it isn't just the Doctors to keep us satisfied. The Day of the Doctor showcases a bumped up special effects budgets which grants us all kinds of treats, from an incredible battle sequence in Arcadia to the Zygon's looking the best they've ever looked. Doctor Who may have never been about the action, but man is that some damn fine action.

If I was to have any other criticisms of the special, other than the use of the companions, it'd probably be that Moffat's name is attached to it. Moffat turned Doctor Who into Doctor What, replacing what was once a highly entertaining children's (I went there) TV show, into a convoluted tangle (see: mess) of vague plot ideas that would alienate pretty much the majority of every single audience. And those not already turned off by the sheer convolutedness of it all will probably be put off by the way Moffat talks about audience members who don't understand his stories.

And sadly...The Day of the Doctor is no different, I can pretty much guarantee that every audience member probably responded with something along the lines of, "Wow that was brilliant...but what the fuck just happened?". And I don't mean in the good sense, in the sense that...wow, that actually made no sense whatsoever.

One positive I do have for Moffat though, is he ruined Doctor Who so much for me, I had pretty much no expectations for this special at all. I watched Night of the Doctor as I am another Big Finnish convert, but that was about the only thing I had to shape my expectations going in. What this means is Moffat had no specific itch to scratch for me, but he also had no specific things he could absolutely fuck up for me at the same time, so in a sense, I probably enjoyed this a lot more than a lot of people.

Plus, I can't help but feel somewhat critical of the tone. As much as I enjoyed just how downright hilarious this was, with all the brooding build up and ramifications of genocide and all the rest, the episode was ultimately so lighthearted the majority of the time, it just sorta fell flat.

When it all leads to the three versions of the same man, a creaky barn and a red button, it's trying to play it up to its most melodramatic proportions, but I was checking whether I had any tea left in my mug. I understand part of this is probably deliberate, it's a kids show after all, but for a 'conclusion' for something so crucial to everything that has shaped New Who basically, it all felt rather small and swept under the rug and that is disappointing.

Overall? Entertaining? Definitely. A satisfying celebration of fifty years of the best piece of TV Britain has ever made? Eh...not really

Anyone have a hi-res version of that beautiful final shot with all the Doctors?

I've been a casual fan of Dr. Who for a while but I've only recently starting watching the series; beginning with the 2005 relaunch & also tuning in for "Day of the Doctor." I'll be sure to fill in the gaps there as time goes on.

Definitely some wonderful samples of storytelling & a welcome new entertainment source.

Right now my favorite Doctor is 9th; such a shame Eccelston apparently had such a bad time working on the show that he'll never come back. His fantastic run was cut far too short.

Favorite companion to date is Donna Noble; a great no-nonsense counterpart to Tennant's wild antics.


On the one level its disappointing that almost none of the veteran Doctors came back for the 50th anniversary but I think i understand why; with all the old veterans back then the audiences' attention is all on them & the story "Day" is trying to tell gets lost in the shuffle. I'd much rather have a greater story over better homages.

Plus, if we could only get one back its right that Tom should take it. Not to be morbid but he might not get another chance for something like that...

Finally, if everyone hasn't seen Peter Davidsons' "The 5(ish) Doctors" you should do so immediately.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01m3kfy

I must disagree with you again Locke. Moffat is a genius and all of the episodes has written himself have been golden. The man actually knows how to deal with time travel and uses it in his plots.

Well, except for Clara, I hate Clara. She had a great introduction with last year's Xmas special which was then ruined by a subpar season. Plus, I am tired of the companion being in love with the Doctor subplot. Rose was the first to do this with for the new series, which is what made her the best companion of them all. It sort of worked with Donna, but afterwards, it just got repetitive.

But Clara is unique in that she isn't in love with the Doctor though. She's kinda like Donna, a bit of flirt here and there but never really involved more than that.

What didn't make sense about it? If anything this is the most sensical Moffat plot in years.

You consider the likes of "A Christmas Carol", "The Doctor, The Widow & the Wardrobe", "Let's Kill Hitler", "Asylum of the Daleks" and "The Bells of Saint John" golden? :eyebrow

Moffat has written some good episodes but he certainly doesn't have a flawless track record.

I have to agree with ComicGuy89 that Clara doesn't come across as being "in love" with the Doctor at all. And I would also argue that Rose being in love with the Doctor made her the worst companion, because it led to her presence dominating every Tennant series onward. Martha didn't get a chance, and even Donna's series was constantly foreshadowing her return.

Out of your list, I quite like A Christmas Carol and Asylum of the Daleks (though I perfectly understand your misgivings of the latter from your review), I found Let's Kill Hitler entertaining despite some serious issues, and I thought The Bells of Saint John and The Doctor, the Widow & the Wardrobe to be a bit bland, but entertaining.

Aside from Asylum, I don't think any of these make my top favourite lists.

Which makes it all the more ironic that Tennant and Piper never once interacted in this special. :lol

Yeah, I don't think they're all godawful stories (Asylum and Doctor/Widow/Wardrobe are), but they certainly aren't on the level of "Empty Child/Doctor Dances" or "Blink".

And all the better it was for it I thought! Piper played the role excellently.

Last night the Doctor's Revisited came on with Matt Smith. Ignoring the fact it seems weird to revisit something that happened so recently, BBC America has angered me again.

They never even mentioned River Song's name! She was such a large part of his tenor, like the major part, and they never even mention her damned name? And nothing on the TARDIS exploding, nothing on Vincent and the Doctor, nothing on anything. They never even mentioned the Pandorica! It was all "Isn't Amy the best companion?" And "Bowties!" and "He's so young and cute!" ...
I need to punch a puppy to feel better.

Agreed, for all the humour in the 'assistants get younger every day' (or whatever it was), I honestly feel that should be closer pointed at the Doctors themselves. The contrast between Three, which is what I'm rewatching, and the modern Doctors is insane. The Doctor is now a poster boy, armed with assistants who are largely utterly useless and only exist to swoon over the Doctor to drain all drama out of their relationship. Unless you're Amy, who Moffat was so obsessed with it was just ludicrous how important she became.

It was less so the events themselves although the museum curator was baffling, much like choosing the Zygons of all things for the baddies but just how hand waved they all were. The Doctor broke about a thousand different rules of time travel in this episode, all of which were claimed to have serious ramifications if done. But well...apparently not then.

This is just a problem with time travelling in general I think, there's never any set rules and it just ends up a mess unless you treat it simply on a writer by writer case. Altering a timeline has always been a confusing affair because someone could easily just turn around and say that time was never altered in the first place and that's how events have always played out, they simply don't remember it that way.

"Timey Wimey?!" :lol

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I think I'm less likely to swallow it simply because I cannot stand Moffat. I hate how overcomplicated his plots are, and I hate how he calls anyone who cant follow his plots 'stupid', not just because it offends me but because he basically insulted about 96% of the people in the audience in the same breath.

I do like that Moffat gave this a brisk pace, making it feel more about adventure than trying to out M. Night Shyamalan M. Night Shyamalan but I'm pretty sure that was an attempt to echo Doctor Who of old, rather than being the future of the direction of his episodes.

Oh I completely agree when it comes to the last two seasons of Who, which is why I especially appreciated the fact I could wrap my head around this one while tying up any loose ends it could have easily caused. It actually felt completely thought out for once.

Unlike the Ponds, who didn't give a damn about their newborn baby once they found out it was River Song.

Yeah I suppose that is true, for once I could understand the What, but this time I couldn't understand the How. Where as usually I can't understand any of the Ws.

I still don't understand River Song. I've honestly watched New Who religiously (much more so than Classic Who, which I watched casually as a child and have been slowly working my way through again as an adult), but I was either so confused/angry/bored with Moffat's run I can honestly tell you pretty much nothing about any of it.

Except that Amy may well be my most hated companion, and that I'm disappointed that Smith got such a crap tenure of episodes because he himself was so damn great as the Doctor. Although I think the latest season with Clara deserves some credit for being mostly coherent, even if it was largely mediocre.

I REALLY hope Big Finish do a spin off series with Smith where he actually gets some decent episodes.

Eh, they all had to gloss over stuff. You think that was bad, look back at all that they cut from the Tom Baker episode.