Another thing Smallville never had.

Yeah, serious drama can be fun in the right genres. :lol But Power Rangers doesn't have to be melodramatic. It just has to have sufficient drama and characterisation to be fun. To attempt to be too much like the serious dramas on primetime would kind of hurt it.

Even RPM, with all its drama, knew how to balance that with the fun and cheesiness that comes with Power Rangers. It fully embraced being Power Rangers.

This I agree with.

I know you want a more dramatic, plot-driven show, 7L, but PR is not going to have that. That is not what the show is for, honestly.

And lampshaded the goofiness of both the Power Rangers concept and Sentai footage's theme-of-the-year the wazoo. :lol

Because how do you explain that one of your MOTW's is a spray bottle and the military team of soldiers against an army of deathbots is wearing neon bodysuits and wielding big goofy weapons while driving huge cars with cutesy animal faces? :lolol

And honestly, what's Smallville's plot? "Clark Kent's life between him landing on earth and donning the iconic suit."

Why is that so much better than "3 students at a martial arts dojo are tasked with guarding a magic box containing an ancient evil and one jealous student fucks everything up by releasing the evil and killing the sensei who instructs them to go find this new teacher who teaches them how to fight off the evil by giving them devices that channel their ki into into magic spandex and weapons so that they can fight the hordes of demon soldiers that the ancient evil will unleash upon the world while possessing the mind of the jealous student and sending him further down the road of angst and hatred?"

Never thought Id see the first episode of JF summed up that easily. Well I couldnt because I explain everything at once. Ive never seen Smallville, but if its like Arrow where its all DRAMA ARGH then no, PR will never get that way. Its a kids show, what kids show is gonna do that?

In Space and Time Force say hi.

In Space and Time Force (and RPM by extension) never abandoned their Power Rangers roots. They kept the camp, the crazy powers, the silly plots and most importantly, the spirit of fun.

You're confusing story telling with melodrama.
Those two series are loved because they told a consistent and interesting story. The fun and silly moments of Power Rangers are still entirely intact.

Those shows had episodes that were dramatic (the ones that told the running plot of the show), but they were still PR. They were campy and bright and fun. They were nothing like Smallville or any of the comic book TV shows

There's a plucky little robot owl in Time Force and the Space Rangers team up with Ninja Turtles who claim "Power Rangers are fictional comic book characters."

And in RPM, a romantic moment between Summer and Dillon is interrupted by them both getting soaked by the Whale Zord's blowhole spout. And that was funny. Dramatic, but funny.

Yes, sometimes in overemphasising how edgy RPM is, people forget that it is a very funny show with a lot of campy moments. It's definitely still Power Rangers, no doubt about that.

I don't like extremely funny moments.

Well extremely funny moments are gonna stay. Its Power Rangers, its always been goofy, campy, and sometimes has serious moments. You want melodramatic 'like Smallville' no silly moment Power Rangers? Track down that Power/Rangers short fanfilm. Should be perfect for you Seven.

The P/R film is perfect for someone. So hell officially froze over then?

For now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdbFy3ygX9o

So you really want this?

I wasn't talk about a dark season but,a season with a serious tone a little bit.

No, for as long as the show is on. You do realize that Power Rangers is, and always has been no matter how much we adult fans wish different, a kids show? That's their main market. That is who they have, are, and always will try appealing to. So this whole notion about how funny moments are going away.. well, they just aren't. From Bulk and Skull on up. They just aren't.

I just thought of a question during this. There was a fake Ranger, and then a monster, in the Cave... where the hell was Keeper?!

Perhaps in future we can have surprises.

Well, if he's anything like Cosmo and Wanda, probably busting a move on the dance floor and not caring if people see he's an alien because "as long as everyone thinks he's a kid in a costume, his secret is safe." :lol

You are going to have to accept that PR is for kids and kids like to watch super heroes kick butt and they also like to laugh. A more serious season is not in our future, unless it is the last season again (like RPM was projected to be).

This is just like how someone wants PR to be based in the UK to switch it up. When I explained how PR is aimed at American kids and the rest of the world second, they got mad at me for not wanting the franchise to improve. The franchise can improve, but there are some set parameters that the show will adhere to.

There's a possiblity to have a another season like RPM ?

Both Power Rangers and Super Sentai always have been market to kids. People refuse to admit that they are too old for the franchise now and they don't need to make things dark for older fans to be enjoyed.

^This. Enjoy what we get while we get it, I say. No reason to expect the shows to change to better cater to what you want even though you are the target audience

It seems like most fandoms of their own favorite childhood franchise wants things to be dark and gritter. I see Dragon Ball fans who wants Super to be dark and gritty with blood, guts and sex at the max. I also see Pokemon fans who want the series to become more darker and serious.

The closest I ever got was before X&Y going "hey, maybe they'll do an anti-eugenics message with Team Flare since they apparently 'want to make the world beautiful' and the villain teams always use really crappy Pokemon so Team Flare would justify it as 'these Pokemon are bad so we see them as disposable and worthless."

Why can't anyone ever just have fun anymore? It's all about "dark gritty adult subversions."

Dragon ball had Goku burst through King Piccolo's chest, Freeza cut to pieces, and various villains being obliterated by energy beams. DB fans desire for a return to form isn't that ridiculous of a request.

Sex would be pushing it, as they never showed that before, beyond quick flashes of nudity in the Dragon ball manga.

The violence in the DB series was never that extreme (It's rated TV-PG for uncut, not TVMA). I see fans on Kanzenshuu that want to really push the violence to the next level just to be cool and edgy. Also I see some Digimon fans that want the series to be dark and gritty too.

The issue is that people think violence, language, and sex equate to a "mature" product. While these are mature and serious topics, just having them or amping them up doesn't mean the show or film will be mature. Too much violence and it becomes comical. Too much sex and its simply another part of the show that has no meaning because it is commonplace. Same with language. Use it too much and it loses the shock and power of it compared to using it every so often so that when somebody says something really coarse it has a meaning to it.

Simply put, people may think making everything uber dark, violent, edgy, and sexy will get them a better and more serious product. But it won't. If you want proof of that just look at Shin or how many other shows or films that try to do it but end up looking like try-hards.

Maybe some fans are going further than Toriyama originally intended, Lord knows I don't want to see people eating their victims or anything like that, but when their inspiration for such violence comes from stuff like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JidA5vsBvxg

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE4armHcAm8

I'm going to argue that their not in the wrong for thinking Super is being too soft. Depending on how far some fans are willing to go for "cool and edgy" is where I'll disagree, but Dragon Ball has a history of being more violent than what some people expect from a show.

All of this is true. But on the other hand, censor something too much, or create something with vaguely bad consequences, and you get 4kids.

Honestly, I think the drive for "more mature" content comes from their regular censoring of things like One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh (though to be fair, it's a show about children's card games that sometimes takes itself a bit to seriously). The more you comically dial back some more serious topics, the more a certain crowd will demand them, even if their own ideas for what exactly is "mature" may be utter nonsense or excessive in amount.

I wasn't talk about this kind stuff.

Then what are you talking about? Which I feel is a question we're always asking you. I'm not trying to be mean here, and I am certainly not trying to bully or pick on you. But you need to put more into your questions so we understand what you're trying to ask. Otherwise we're left to guess what it is you meant by your question. So what stuff were you talking about.

DBZ had blood moments, but still very tame compare to other anime/manga like Ninja Scroll and Hellsing. The DB series always have been market to kids in Japan since the 80's. My point is that they don't need to make things violent just to make sake of being violent. This goes for any franchise. I didn't like the loads of blood and gore in the PR fan film because Power Rangers does not need it. Even Super Sentai never got that violent.

I happened to like this. FYI. :lolol
I agree Sentai. Seven, your questions and statements are typically one liners that give no real context as to what your trying to relay or ask. Dude, you need to be a little more giving in what you are trying to ask, a little more clear. We can't give you good enough answers if you only drop a hint of what you want and leave the rest for us to figure out. It just isn't good enough. Please try to be a little more clear. If not then we can't help you.

I was talk about a season could remind the old saban seasons.

You want old Saban? Saban was just as campy as today, if not more so. Only difference is that it had more teen angst because it was the 90's, and that was the thing at the time. And to further my point I should bring up shows like Dawson's Creek, 90210, etc..

Angst ?