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KAMEN RIDER BLADE - SERIES WRAP-UP
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/seriesa.png THE THEMES: Kamen Rider Blade is a show about failure. (Real quick note about themes in art: they're very subjective! I definitely subscribe to the Death Of The Author school of criticism, where the author's intentions are as valid as the audience's interpretations. There's what the author meant to say, and then there's what they said, and those can be two different things. Also, shows can have a lot of different themes! This is an interpretation, not the answer to a question!) It's about failure as an inevitability, and the idea that how we respond to those failures defines us as people. Kamen Rider Blade opens with two significant failures. Kenzaki fails in saving BOARD from Tachibana, and Tachibana fails himself by destroying BOARD. Narratively, the shock finale to the first episode of Blade is to throw us in the deep end, shake up our expectations. Thematically, it's to prepare us for a limitless number of setbacks. Kenzaki's origin is about failure, and how that failure haunted him. He couldn't save his parents, so as an adult he tries to save everyone. Tachibana is a failure engine, constantly letting himself and his friends down. Mutsuki fails throughout the series, putting power ahead of the reason to have power, leading to the deaths of several mentors. Hajime fails… well, Hajime fails at the end, and that's the point of almost all of this failure. Hajime can't keep the power of the Joker buried. He fails to save himself, fails to keep the people he loves safe, fails to hold off the apocalypse. But Kenzaki's there to help him, to lift him back up and give him another chance. That's what the whole series is about, what's demonstrated over and over. (Mostly with Tachibana.) Failure isn't the end of a story. It could be the middle, like with Tachibana's various screw-ups. It could be the very beginning, like with this show. But it's not the end, as long as you're willing to get up and try again. Because life isn't scaling a mountain, where failure drops you to the ground. It's a path, and failure could just be stumbling for a moment before you start moving again. Kenzaki represents the optimism of help, of assistance. Hajime can't really fail for good as long as Kenzaki is there to help him, to shoulder some of the burden. Hajime's failure doesn't define him, because people like Kenzaki are out there rooting for him, cheering on his happiness. (Nozomi fills the same role for Mutsuki. Dr Ladyfriend filled that role for Tachibana, and probably always will. The whole cast fills that role for Kenzaki.) It's a way of looking at failure as a learning experience, a thing to not wallow in or ignore, but acknowledge and overcome. The Sealing Stone is the inevitability of failure. Everyone fails at something at some point. You can't destroy failure. You can't run from it. It's going to happen, eventually. All you can do is understand it when it happens, and count on your friends to help you through it. Or, if you see someone who's failed, offer to help, offer them another chance. The various villains, the bosses, they're the ways society will pigeonhole you for your shortcomings, try to leverage those deficiencies as something only they can fix. Every boss in the show knows better, can fix what's wrong with you, or doesn't believe in you. Your failures are stains that they can scrub off, or reasons why you don't belong. Triumphing over them is owning your losses, using them to become a better version of yourself. There's a reason why every Rider on this show is so weird and damaged. It's to show kids (and adults like Tachibana!) that it's no sin to fail. Everyone does. How we process failure, what it becomes fuel for, that's what separates villains from heroes. --- Obviously, there are a lot more themes to discuss from this series. There's Fighting Against Fate, which is by far the most prominent theme in the series. There's Power Without Morality Is Worthless, a theme that comes up around the villains, but also around Tachibana and Mutsuki. There's Grief And Mortality, which is a big theme of the first-third. All big themes! All worth discussing! Failure, though, that's the one that I thought was unique to this show. Feel free to chime in about these or any ones I've missed! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/seriesb.png THE GOOD: -KENZAKI. He's an outstanding lead. I've often referred to him as A Very Sweet Boy, and like, that's his whole thing. I don't want to call him uncomplicated, because that sounds like a passive-aggressive way of saying he's uninteresting, but I think the show was smart to have Kenzaki be (relative to the rest of the cast) pretty fully-formed when the show starts. He's a hero, through and through. There's a lot that's in the writing (that whole Be The Hero The World Doesn't Have speech he gives Umi!), but the performance is so winning, so charming. It's so easy to root for Kenzaki, to invest in the things he cares about. He's a very fun character to go on a journey with, played by a great actor. Speaking of! -CASTING. Killer, killer lineup on this show. Bit parts like Nozomi and Shima shine due to smart actors finding clever ways into stock roles. Tiger Queen brings rage and gravitas to a short arc. Kotaro and Hirose handle whatever's thrown at them in compelling, grounded ways. The core Riders are all fantastic, for different reasons. Kenzaki, as noted, a very sweet boy. Hajime, giving an edge to his performance that never obscured his innate decency. Mutsuki, frustration and self-loathing that was always watchable. And Tachibana, a mountain of memes that got sculpted into a character by some bizarre acting choices. For the heroic side of the show, they hired some smart, smart people. -DESIGN. I really like the suits on this show. Garren and Blade have a vague Utilitarian feel to them, something it seems like an organization would design and hand out. Leangle comes off as a more regal version, a little outside and above the BOARD Riders. And Chalice! Gorgeous suit. The monsters, overall, equally impressive. Nothing on this show was my favorite of all-time, but everything looked pretty cool. I'm not asking for more than that on a Kamen Rider program, sometimes! -THE FINALE. It's probably the first and last thing I'd use to defend Blade to folks that don't care for it. Incredibly confident writing that's comfortable with a bittersweet send-off. Not every show is! Folks've invested a year of their time, they're never going to see most of these characters ever again, you maybe want to give them some joy. Blade decides that it's as important to give them some sorrow, so that the joy feels more precious. It's the absolute right move, and it makes for a top-shelf finale. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/seriesc.png THE BAD: -VILLAINS. Even if I want to ascribe some thematic importance to the villains on the show, it doesn't in any way make them more interesting. I found nearly every villain impossibly dull, with motivations that never stretched beyond Be More Powerful and Win Battle Fight. There are a couple cool one-offs that had clever performances, but the main motivations for the bosses on this series were so poorly conceived. It's fine if the show feels there's more story to be told by examining the ways the Rider cast fails, but they needed to make sure that the boss characters had enough going on to be worth the cast's attention. I never got that feeling, and it definitely drags the show down. Easily the biggest flaw on the show, and one that's too major to forgive. -FAILURE AS A THEME IS MAYBE NOT WORTH EXPLORING. I mean, I really like Failure as a theme. I really like a story that tells you it's okay to screw up, so long as you never stop trying. But good lord does this show test your patience with how much of an absolute disaster Tachibana is, followed immediately by how much of a disaster Mutsuki is. It's a grind to watch. It's salvaged (for me) by a few good speeches, and some pretty compelling acting, but I can't get mad at anyone who found one-half of the Riders to be a waste of their time. Fifty percent! That's an awful lot of the story to be pissed off at! -WHITHER HIROSE AND KOTARO. Jesus Christ, does this show just forget about Hirose and Kotaro. Despite being very fun actors who knock out of the park whatever speeches they're given (Hirose getting Kenzaki back on track to finish off that Category King!), the show basically gives them nothing to do in the back-third, and only a few things before that. Hirose gets a couple episodes to react to U.N.D.A.D., but she's pretty much under house arrest alongside Kotaro. They're both there to exposit, to react, to look worried while the Undead Scanner triangulates. It's nothing, it's drama-less. They don't even really get any final scenes with Kenzaki before the finale, nothing to sum up their relationship. For what were, at one point, his only two friends, the show 100% pivoted to Kenzaki/Hajime as the core emotional stakes of the story, and... I mean, we got that finale, but at what cost? -THAT GODDAMN BIKE CHASE IN THAT STUPID RACE TRACK EPISODE. Worst sequence in the worst episode of Kamen Rider I've ever seen. Even if they'd made a dozen more episodes like the finale, this thing existing is a crime. Someone should have gone to jail for this one. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/seriesd.png I had a good time watching Kamen Rider Blade. It's not my favorite show, by far, but it is fun. Kenzaki is an all-time great lead hero. Hajime's arc is nuanced and emotional. Tachibana and Mutsuki are varying levels of ridiculous and inspiring. But the series as a whole gets dragged down by repetition and dull villains, as well as the unnecessary exclusion of a big chunk of its (very good!) cast. It's imperfect, but it's got enough to recommend it. |
I really like this structure you got for the wrap-up. It's like I'm reading reviews on blogspot or something again. Anyhow, I like the theme you took from the show. Obviously the thing about fighting fate is the one big thing that the show intended to be about, but it goes hand in hand with the idea that any misstep or failure doesn't ever have to be the end or your defining point (even if it did kinda became Tachibana's, huh).
I feel like chiming in on the villains. I excuse the Unknown and big god man from Agito being 'simple' as villains because to me, their role is just to be a force that antagonise the heroes and little else. While I could say that about the various antagonist characters in Blade (and like, I do say that for the Sealing Stone because that's what it is), it's a lot harder to forgive how there's absolutely nothing interesting about Peacock, Trial, or Cerberus, especially with how much time the show spends on them gloating about their evil plans. King and Scissors/Giraffe were way more interesting despite their relatively limited appearances and simple personalities even. Regardless of all that, I love how personal the conflict in the final episodes are. Nothing wrong with having a bad guy you wanna see get blown up, but it's nice to mix it up with something more unique every now and then. Even before the show was ever clearly about anything, it was at least always fun and even quirky to watch (hence all those memes). But it was nice to see that the show's managed to deliver the big emotions as it got going. I hope you think of Kenzaki every time you walk past a bench... |
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Here, it's like, they're just a bunch of weird bosses? And they all want exactly the same things? Tennouji, for me, is the biggest offender, because his character only makes sense if BOARD stays relevant for the entire series, and it totally doesn't. He feels parachuted in from a version of the show where Team Blade stays tied to BOARD, working out of their offices the whole time, so Tennouji revealing he's only ever needed the Riders to wipe out his competition and procure him test subjects, that's a huge betrayal! Instead, he's just some guy who looks down on them, and it's not nearly as interesting as it could've been. Quote:
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First off, congrats on finishing Blade, Die! You seemed to overall have a good ride with it, and I'm glad you managed to find some positives where I didn't.
However, the opposite also goes with me. Nothing too major mind you, but like, for example, I seem to be one of the few who liked the Black Fang episodes, haha. Look, sometimes all you need is for cool stuff to happen, alright? And bikes are cool! But yeah, glad you overall had a good time, and it'll be interesting to see what everyone has to say about Hibiki when the times comes. Especially since we all know Switchblade might as well be your co-writer there, haha. As for the rest of this post, anyone reading can now feel free to ignore me! But just remember, Die quite literally asked for this: Quote:
First and foremost is the handling of characters. Not just Tachibana and Mutsuki(though Mutsuki certainly doesn't help), but the villains and the Undead as well. I actually felt that, honestly, Blade wasn't a show that needed a Big Bad. I felt that it would've been way stronger in terms of narrative and character had the story simply been about just that, the characters, all dealing with the current situation(the return of the Battle Fight) in their own ways. It really didn't help that Evil Executive isn't compelling or entertaining in the slightest, and the inclusion of such things really only lead to other characters making the same mistakes over and over(Tachibana). I really did feel like the kick-off of the plot the show gave us, that of a man who, in a moment of desperation, accidentally let loose the Undead/Sealing Stone and started the Battle Fight all over again, was more than enough, and made for a great backdrop. The plot in and of itself not being all that great or complex really doesn't help my feelings on the matter. Meanwhile, like I said earlier, I really liked Tachibana's' arc during the first two acts of the story, but once the third act kicks in, his character outright regresses and he does basically the same thing all over again, only with a very lessened impact as a result. I would've really preferred that his arc fully wrap up, and he become a supporting/mentor character from then on. I actually liked the idea of him being a mentor to Mutsuki! It really seemed like the idea was to show that Tachibana had learned from his mistakes, and thus wanted his experiences to serve as a warning for others. But no, he just falls down the rabbit hole again. It's a waste. The actual worst in all this though is Mutsuki. Oh my god. I actually liked him in those early episodes, and while I respect the Shima arc ending with an ambiguous note, with Mutsuki walking off without saying a word... the end result was so not worth it. Mutsuki is an absolutely self-absorbed tool who only cares about his own self image, everyone else in his life be damned. Not only did his story drag on for way too long, he was constantly surrounded by characters far more likeable(Nozomi) and interesting(Hikaru) than he was, making me really wish that Leangle was anyone else. Where I drew the line was when it was made clear that Shima's' sacrifice wasn't totally in vein. While that might not sound like a bad thing at first, what it ends up meaning is that Mutsuki, in his own frame of mind, with very little influence from the Spider Undead, continuously and of his own volition, proceeds to be an absolute chode while acting like he's the most tragic figure who's ever lived. This in turn removes any sort of sympathy I have for the guy; By the end I didn't want him to learn a lesson, I just wanted him to get lost. I've dealt with people just like Mutsuki in real life, and word of advice: Guys like that? They are not at all worth your time. Avoid at all costs. Lastly, and this is the one I imagine I'll lose alot of you on is, well, the style. See, one of the reasons I really dug Early Blade is because, atleast for me, it surrounds you in this atmosphere, this world of just total craziness and uncomfortableness. The mixed pacing, the random camera filters, the acting... in a totally weird way it really did make me wanna know more about what what was going on and the characters involved in it. With Late Blade though, things become more standard, more "normal," which made things way less interesting. My issues with how the characters were handled only made it worse. That's not to say it was all bad though. There are infact three things that I feel Late Blade did really well! As should be obvious, the first is the ending. I would change literally nothing about the final episode. It's that good. Few other Rider shows share that honor with me, and it's what made me overall like Blade more than Faiz, despite me having somewhat similar feelings in terms of the two seasons(I'm in the camp that hates Faiz's' ending). And the other two things are actually just my favorite aspects to Blade in general: Hajime, and especially Kenzaki. Both of these characters were really, really well done. And for me, stories are all about characters. Characters are the main thing that drive me to continue going. If you give me a good reason to like or care about a specific character, then I in turn care about the things that happen both to and surrounding them. Hajime is just an all around solid package, so I don't have much to specifically point out about him, but Kenzaki? Oh MAN did I dig him as a protagonist! He's kind, he's strong, his actor makes him extremely likeable, and most importantly, he encompasses a lesson that I wish more stories in general would showcase in terms of their main characters who are meant to be someone to look up to. That lesson being "Be kind, but don't be a pushover." See, I believe I mentioned it before, but the aspect of Kenzaki I love most is that, even though he is a hero and he always tries to do the right thing, he also doesn't take anyone's' crap(most of the time). The scene that always sticks out to me being one early on, where Hajime, in a bit of an aggressive tone, tells Kenzaki "I don't like people." Kenzaki's' response(not literally, but basically)? "Yeah alright, whatever dude." And he just leaves, not even dealing with that crap. I loved the guy ever since. You go, Kenzaki! So yeah, hopefully I explained myself well enough here. But, I wouldn't blame anyone for feeling different. If you got a better ride than I did, awesome. Overall, I do like the show, I just have issues with it. |
Been on an extremely busy stuff lately due to working on project at late start (unfair), but probably my reply here will still be the same; by each episode, or... dunno.
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There's also the part where Kanai warned Hikaru about the state of the battle royale in present day, complete with Hikaru again bashing her sneakers at Kanai for a short while. And for Tennoji, forgot to post this before, but my small meme. https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...wo_pronged.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...ged_attack.png Quote:
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For the most part, I'd file them under Flaws, But Not Dealbreakers. Tachibana and Mutsuki are characters that... I mean, you need to have a really high tolerance for flawed characters. They don't engender nearly enough sympathy to get away with some of their schtick. (Mutsuki was the least problematic of the two for me, mostly down to performance and supporting actors.) I think it's a poor choice to basically do Tachibana's arc a second time with Mutsuki, despite the ways it forces Tachibana into a mentor role. For all those problems, though, I think the show does a decent job ending those plots in sensible, affecting ways. I usually felt better about them at the end than I did in the middle. The villains are definitely not great, though! |
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Hard agree on the villains. As much as I love Blade overall, the villains are really bad for the most part. Like you said, Tennouji feels shoehorned in at the last minute, and on top of that he's so uninteresting anyway. Like maybe it wouldn't be as bad if he had some kind of intriguing motive or backstory, but his entire character is "generic business boss who wants power to take over the world." But even as bad as he is, I think Hirose's "dad" is even worse. His storyline is so repetitive, just constantly throwing out new versions of the Trial series, and then the reveal that he himself is a Trial...ugh. Just nothing about his whole arc worked at all for me.
All that said though, I consider Blade one of my favorite seasons, and I think I have a relatively easy time forgiving the shitty villains because at the end of the day, Blade isn't a show that revolves around heroes vs. villains. Of course it still has to have some role for villains, because, well, it's Kamen Rider...a franchise all about guys in hero costumes fighting guys in villain costumes! But it definitely feels like the villains were little more than an afterthought, especially since they could never play a major role at the very end. The final showdown between Kenzaki and Hajime was inevitable, there was no room for villains in a finale like this. They had to fulfill their narrative purpose, then be disposed of so that the show could move on to the conflict that actually matters. They're essentially just plot devices used to further new developments in the relationships and connections of the characters, rather than interesting and unique characters in and of themselves. Not that I'm using this reasoning to excuse the poor writing of the villains though, as plenty of shows can let villains serve that purpose while also establishing them as interesting and well-written characters in and of themselves. But Blade really didn't care to do that at all, and for better or worse, put all of its focus squarely on the heroes. The villains are definitely the worst thing about Blade, but for me personally, the overall character work for the Riders clicks with me strong enough that I can forgive it without too much trouble. The Kenzaki and Hajime material in particular is something I like so much that it alone elevates the show very highly for me, regardless of anything else. |
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I guess what I'm saying is that the Undead were generally really fun, while the human (or "human") villains in the second half were just a great big snooze. (Trenchcoat Mastermind sort-of splits the difference. I never loved his obsession with numbers going up, but I think he adds a lot to Tachibana's story. A little dull, for sure, but a worthy antagonist.) |
Honestly kinda hate how many follow ups turn Kenzaki into an edgelord literally EVERY appearance he makes other than the Ex-Aid one basically do to him what some people felt The Last Jedi did to Luke Skywalker
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I like to think of him as always being Kenzaki, you know? Pushing his bike up a hill because it broke for no apparent reason. Needing to crash on strangers' couches because he forgot he needs money to pay rent. Amane getting a birthday card from him on different day every year, with a note about how he owes her another gift. The world having that guy running around for eternity... man, I'm tearing up again! |
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The downside with doing that, though, is you're basically just doing Kuuga again, and only four years after Kuuga aired. Probably would've garnered this show a completely different set of complaints. |
I don’t really have a huge issue with the show’s villains because I don’t really think of any of them past Isaka as being major villains, even Tennouji. Blade’s real villain isn’t a character, it’s the situation that they’re all out in. The Battle Fight is what drives all of the show’s main physical conflicts and the show’s final struggle is about how to effectively cheat its system. Isaka worked well as an early, pre-power-up threat, but after him most high level Undead were lucky to last more than three episodes. I didn’t mind that because it still tied into the idea that the situation is the real problem.
I mean, yeah, Tennouji kinda sucks and feels more than a little pointless, but I guess I didn’t expect more from him? He was really just more of an extended distraction. |
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Oh man did I show up late to this one. Alright, um... directly quoting everyone is basically out of the question if I don't want to spend several hours writing this one post... just need a good place to start then... Oh! I got it!
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As for the discussion of themes, "failure" is a good one. There was a point after episode 28 (I went and checked) where you said you were having some trouble getting a handle on what the themes of Blade are, and while I didn't say anything at the time, because I like to avoid doing anything that might color your opinions, that remark hit pretty close to home for me when it comes to this show. I've seen Blade twice, and neither time did it feel like a show with a particularly cogent thematic core the way most Heisei Rider shows do to me. There's material there, for sure, but it doesn't leap out at me the same way it would in a show like Faiz, for example. I've been putting more thought into it during this thread, and the "conclusion" I've arrived at was as such: Fighting fate, that was always the hallmark of Shou Aikawa's run as writer, and fairly specific to him. His very first episode is the very first time we hear Kenzaki say a variation on those words that would go on to become rather iconic thanks to the ending, and it always keeps popping back up in-between. For the first half of the show by Shouji Imai, I'd say the main theme, as best as I can sum it up in a single word, would be "doubt". Maybe "uncertainty"? This is reflected in the lyrics to both the opening and insert themes, and also by nearly every aspect of the plot, from how it's set up, to the struggles all three Riders face in that first arc. Everything you said about how you see the themes, I think it ended up intersecting pretty nicely with how I feel about them, even though the exact lens and labels we're using are a bit different. Blade can be kind of a different beast compared to other Rider shows in this department, so I'm amazed they line up at all. Also, I kind of weirdly agree with everything DreamSword said, even though I also don't at all? Well, except the bit about the Black Fang episodes. Die and I both watched that second part, posted about it, and we both agreed it was basically a total misfire. It's Bike Action without the Action. Aside from that though, yeah. Early Blade definitely has a more unique sense of atmosphere compared to the more standardized supehero antics later on, and that's one of the things that keeps me coming back to those early episodes so much. The complaints, I don't feel personally, but I wouldn't really argue most of those flaws aren't there. Some of the overarching villains are a bit of a sticking point for me, but the fun of the week-to-week Undead with human forms always overshadows that in my memories. The gamut of motivations and personalities those guys had is something I don't think many other Rider shows offer. Some of them are very atypical antagonists, to the point a guy like Shima can even just be a protagonist, no questions asked! It's totally wild and I love it. And, before I forget to mention it for the millionth time: have we never just taken a second in this thread to sit back and appreciate how gloriously absurd the name "Battle Fight" is yet? Because that's gotta be one of my favorite terms in the entire lexicon of Kamen Rider. Might as well have called it the Combat War. :lol |
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I guess if you don't remember much, I will now note what episodes I'm discussing with, in this case, episode 42.
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KAMEN RIDER BLADE - THREAD WRAPUP
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/end1.png And that's it for Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Blade! Don't believe me? Well, feast your eyes on this Sweetest Rider: https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/bladefig.jpg Yep, it's my Rider Kicks SHF Blade, a figure that probably desperately needs a Seihou revamp, but works just fine for my Trophy needs. I'm happy to place him next to my Faiz figure and boxed Rider Kicks SHF Den-O, who'll be opened some time in 2021, fingers crossed. As always, thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. Special thanks to Androzani84 and Fish Sandwich for the lessons on cards and memes, and general thanks to literally anyone who took the time to share their thoughts about Blade. I really love getting to experience these series while talking to you all, and it's a blast when people want to have a conversation. Along those lines... Sometimes, when I finish these threads, I'm pleased with the outcome. (Faiz, Build.) Sometimes I feel like I left too much meat on the bone. (Kuuga, Ryuki.) This one... I feel like I got everything I could out of Blade. I don't have any regrets about conveying my feelings or thoughts. It's just, was this something people wanted to talk about? It seemed like there was a lot of chatter in the beginning, but then it sort-of dropped off around the middle. I truly appreciate everyone who volunteered their thoughts, but it didn't seem like there was a lot of interest in digging into Blade. Was it the show? Was it my approach? Was it something else entirely? I'm not saying I've got a lot of different ways of doing these threads (it's pretty much all first-draft, no-filter), but... like, if this is a conversation, I don't think I'm helping things if I just shout a bunch of stuff at you that no one cares about. That would make for a pretty awkward and unsatisfying conversation, wouldn't it? So, if there's something I could do (or not do!) that'd make it more welcoming or enjoyable, I'd love to hear it. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post it here. I welcome the feedback! (Again, and I can't stress this enough, I am so grateful for anyone who showed up to this thread and posted. I don't want this to sound like I don't value you! I do! There were just more than a few days where the discourse was a little lighter than usual, and I want to do whatever I can to make the conversation more engaging.) This thread will stay open, so anything you've got to say about Blade, I'm still around to hear it. Hibiki will be coming up next for me, but I don't know exactly when it'll start. Doing an episode a day on this one... I like the routine, but two hours each day watching Blade and writing about Blade to generate one post, it was getting a little harder to find the time near the end. I'm going to take a couple weeks off from Kamen Rider, minimum, and then come back to do Hibiki when I'm both recharged and dealing with a slightly lighter workload. (A couple projects at work could use more of my attention than I've been giving them.) The hope is to be back for Hibiki before September's over, but I'm going to be lenient with myself. I'll get to it when I get to it! (I will definitely be back! Just so you know how dedicated I am to doing these threads, I've already got an idea I want to do for Decade, a thread I won't get to for another nine or ten months.) That's all I've got to say, I think. This was really lovely. I feel like I got to watch a fun Kamen Rider series with a whole bunch of friends, and I can't imagine experiencing these shows any other way. Like Kenzaki at the end of this series, you may never see me, but know that I'm smiling somewhere because of you. Thanks so much for being a part of this thread! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/blade/end2.png |
You did fine. I think the main reason people kinda petered off was moreso due to Blade not exactly being popular, even if it does have its fans. I also feel like the people who showed up early just to drop off kinda just said their piece and stood to lurking afterward. Nothing to really fret about.
Like I said before, I do read each thread, but I really only post if I feel I can bring something relatively unique to the table(or if I just really love the show in general, like in Fish's' Kuuga thread). But, your threads are always fun to read, even if I disagree with stuff said in them. Enjoy your break, enjoy your figure, and keep enjoying Kamen Rider! |
Incredibly ominous final image! I'm not too surprised that this thread was a bit more relaxed in activity from some people (including myself, hah). Ryuki and Faiz were both super big talking points in the franchise and extremely iconic for various reasons. I don't think there will ever be a season that hits the same combination of nostalgia and uh, opinions those two have on the general population, but of course every single Rider show has plenty to talk about all the same, as I'm sure you'll come to discover over and over again.
Big props for doing write-ups on this entire show, it was lovely for a lot of us as well to read you digging into this messed-up yet engaging version of Yu-Gi-Oh. I wish I had a clever poker-related quip to end off on, but I know nothing about how that game works. Turn Up! ...this thread, because it's over! Good luck dealing with September. |
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And thanks for the feedback! It's tough to tell which series are going to be more active in discussion, and I guess I got a little hyped up from all of the people excited to shout out memes. I'm glad other folks got something out of this, though! --- I'm not going to make another post for this (really need to start downloading that Avengers game), but: https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...adewordart.png It's the now-obligatory KRD Watches end-of-thread word art. This was culled from the 102-page Google Doc I did all of the Episode posts in. It doesn't take into account any responses I made on the boards, or anyone else's posts. Please call out any weird combinations of words you notice! |
Kamen Feel Go. Yeah, that's you watching the ending.
Battle Doing is a slightly better name than Battle Fight. And Tachibana was cool on the inside all along...! |
"Story Kenzaki More" sounds like something Die would headcanon.
Meanwhile "Undead Trenchcoat Mutsuki" isn't too far off from what actually went down, haha. |
ONE EPISODE MUTSUKI is definitely something I yelled at one point!
Regardless, my laptop’s in for repairs till next week and typing on the phone is painful, so just briefly... yeah. Yeah Blade’s ending is phenomenal and there’s few Rider endings I prefer; and without it I’m really not sure how I’d feel about Blade. It’s absolutely one of those endings that really recontextualises everything you think and feel about these characters; and even knowing the twist going into it (for god’s sake, Blade’s ability on his legend rider progrise key is Joker!!!), it actually didn’t ruin anything. Oh, sure, the element of surprise is awesome; but how he got there was so much more important and really got me to tears. Kenzaki and Hajime... they’re always what I’ll take away from this show. It’s hard to say much more because Blade was my last Heisei Rider; my 20th, so a lot of my feelings on it are lost and muddled up in it being the finale of that long ride for me. It’s difficult to even recall more than absolute highlights (good and bad), but ultimately... I still really, really liked what I got; and I’m glad to see you got something similar. |
So this is the end. And it’s certainly been a ride.
I’ve enjoyed being able to do a regular feature for a change. And after doing it, I’ve decided that Garren’s cards are my favourites, due to how dumb some of the names are (Upper Frog? Rapid Pecker? Really?) Anyway, I probably wouldn’t rank Blade as in my top series, but I still class it above my low points (Kuuga, Ryuki and OOO). As for the next show, I’m about to finish that this Sunday and I’m not sure how much of it I’ll remember by the time you get round to it, but for now, I do have some pretty strong opinions on the show. And while Switchblade won’t be giving you any reason to watch the second half, I’ll be providing you with two reason to watch it. |
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Glad to hear you've got thoughts on Hibiki! I'll try to be back with it before you've forgotten too much! |
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But yeah, I... guess my Rider journey was sort of similar to yours in how I started? I picked a series from phase 2 I was recommended and interested in (Fourze), loved it, then went back and watched W and everything onwards in order; alongside the currently airing series (which was Build, almost halfway through). After finishing I done Heisei 1 in a... sort of strange order? I done Kiva first because I’d heard bad things and I like seeing if I can find something in a show others don’t and BOY did that not go well! Only Toku I’ve ever truly hated. Then I went to Kabuto for the same reasons and... oops! Didn’t like that one either! Still, despite the bad impression I decided to go in order; and done Den-O and Decade. Then everyone told me that you should only watch Agito after Kuuga, so naturally, I watched Agito! After randomly choosing Hibiki next I just decided to do the remaining seasons in order. Kuuga, Ryuki, Faiz, Blade. Really interested to see what you think about Hibiki. You’re a very drama-invested viewer I think and that’s what you’ve loved most in Rider, though Hibiki is an extremely laid-back series that purposefully thrives on avoiding drama at every instance until the changeover to Inoue. I can honestly see you being one of the only people to like that second part, which should be interesting to read! |
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I was also happy to see that "Way(!)" was as big as it is. Kenzaki would be so proud! Usually when you say at the end of one of these threads you're not sure if you did the best job, I think you're being way too hard on yourself. That's very much the case here -- you did great, as usual -- but I'm kind of understanding where you're coming from this time, because part of me feels I could've done a way better job with Blade? I had a ton of fun lecturing everyone on memes, but there were so many points where I realized I didn't have anything to say about episodes beyond that, and it was kinda freaking me out. Is this all Blade is to me? Just a bunch of dumb jokes and a really good ending? Did I just blow my entire load of enthusiasm on my first post? I love this show! Why don't I have anything else to contribute!? I'm not totally sure even now. Maybe Blade legitimately doesn't have that much going on under the surface. Maybe if it does, that's not really a problem. Or maybe a lot of us just happened to be a little too preoccupied with other things the past month and a half to contribute as much to the discussion, and none of this has anything to do with the show's quality and/or popularity. At any rate, returning back from my self-indulgent rant to the point I was originally making, I know it didn't have anything to do with you, Die, so as always, enjoy your break, and when you're feeling recharged, I look forward to what you have to say about Hibiki. That's a show I'm sure a lot of people will be happy to project their opinions onto you for, but I have my own theories about it based on how you felt about other shows so far. Could be really interesting! And who knows? Maybe I'll even have actual things to say about it. :p |
For what it's worth, even if you're focused on primarily generating conversation, I really do enjoy just reading your thoughts on the episodes, whether I'm able to reply at the time or not. Obviously it's best when you can discuss it with others, but even if you just wrote these as a blog-style thing where there was no interaction at all I'd still read them. You have a lot of great insights on these shows that really help me find new things to appreciate about them!
I'd intended to be more active in this thread at first because I really like Blade, but I ended up having a lot of other things going on that prevented it until recently. Hopefully I can make time to be more present in the Hibiki one! |
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Jokes! But I do take your point. The memes are what people remember 15 years later, not some random detail or scene. I don't think being excited about them, even to the exclusion of deeper analysis, is a problem. I think a big part of my feeling that there wasn't more discussion around certain parts of the series is that, frankly, they're not that memorable. If I watch an episode and immediately go to write it up, there are probably a half-dozen things I'll want to discuss from it. But if that same episode gets brought up even a week later, my feelings will be a lot more vague, and consist largely of Oh Yeah That Was Good. I cannot imagine how little I'd recall after a few years. (Most of my contribution to your Kuuga thread was the couple three things I absolutely loved or totally despised, by way of example.) It's no crime for folks to not have a list of comments or concerns for a random tokusatsu episode they watched somewhere over the last decade. And I don't... I really don't want this all to sound like I'm dwelling on how these threads go. I'm honestly not. They're fun! While I sometimes feel proud of one (Faiz!) or less proud of another (never going to feel like I did Ryuki justice!), it is not, like, an ongoing concern. I don't feel bad about any of them. It's just a little moment at the end of the experience where I can get a little reflective, a little analytical about the process. In the moments, I'm just thinking about Kamen Rider and talking with other fans about it. The top-down view, that shit is all kept in the immediate aftermath, the brief afterglow of finishing a series. It's pretty much the only time I feel clear to ask if folks are getting what they want out of these things. I'm glad know that they are! Quote:
And, yeah, I totally understand being less able to chime in With Everything That's Going On. That's... I honestly wondered if I should even ask people about their involvement, since I know how hard it can be to focus on stuff, or to lose yourself in fictional heroes. Even if it's just regular life getting in the way, it's completely reasonable to be on the boards a little less. It's nice when folks have the time, but I certainly wouldn't want people to feel guilty (or whatever) for not being around. |
Now, 43. Oh I forgot something before, Kenzaki claims Mutsuki beat Spider Undead with his own power.... and ironically it's total opposite; Kenzaki just handed Mutsuki Blade King's sword!
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So I actually got these guys back out last week, but I haven't had a chance to upload a good photo until now. We were in the heart of late series Blade so I found my old Kiwami Tamashii King Form and Wild Chalice. Felt like sharing since it seems like this line has long passed out of general awareness.
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