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KRWolfblade 06-03-2017 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Deepsea (Post 686742)
hey so here's a couple of dumbass questions regarding weeping angels, ahem,
1. Do paradoxes kill weeping angels because they are the erasure of potential timelines?
2. if the statue of liberty is a weeping angel and all pictures of weeping angels are weeping angels themselves does that mean all pictures of the statue of liberty are weeping angels?
2b. if the above is true does that mean they're could be an entire earth in alternate timeline where the weeping angels have consumed every human thru various pictures? and would that make for a cool episode of the doctor having to explore a planet of nothing but weeping angels or alternatively a single weeping angel because they ultimately consumed each other due to hunger?
3. Are weeping angels sapient or simply sentient? as in do they have culture and language or are they just like animals looking for their next meal?
1. The Eleventh Doctor states that paradoxes can taint/poison their food supply, so I believe it can kill them. However a weak one managed to survive until the end of the Angels Take Manhattan.
2. Yes. The picture of of an Weeping Angel is itself a Weeping Angel
2.b. quite possibly yes. That could be possible and would be interesting to see.
3. This is a hard one. They're described as quantum locked humanoids. They somehow communicate with one another and as shown in The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, they can take the voice of a victim. I would say they're more like animals since most of them do hunt their victims. I would say sapient since they are living creatures and not just sentient statues, the statue part is just a defence mechanism.

Electric Turahk 06-03-2017 08:17 PM
Aw man forgot about the Torchwood marathon. Meant to record that but am out of town so couldn't today. Still really want to watch that just for the Jack nostalgia.

GreenPsychoRanger 06-03-2017 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Electric Turahk (Post 686780)
Aw man forgot about the Torchwood marathon. Meant to record that but am out of town so couldn't today. Still really want to watch that just for the Jack nostalgia.
I recorded all but the first episode of Children of Earth.

AkibaSilver 06-04-2017 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lolita (Post 686749)
I’ve only seen the first series of Torchwood. Are the subsequent series worth checking out?
If you enjoyed Series One, then Series Two is something you'll enjoy. Series 3 is brilliant, so I'd definitely recommend. Series 4... Don't do it.

Dr Kain 06-04-2017 10:14 AM
So we watched the virtual reality and pyramid episodes last night. I honestly could not follow the virtual reality one at all. I had no idea what was going on, what half of the things were that they were talking about, nor do I remember that book from a previous episode. Was the entire thing just a computer simulation or did they actually meet the pope? How did they even get stuck inside a computer?

The pyramid episode was good though. I highly enjoyed it and those monk creatures are pretty awesome.

There is one thing that is really pissing me off this season though. The lack of an ending to the episodes. The show will cut to commercial but instead of doing a credit sequences or anything to tell me the episode is over Class starts up. WTF? How about you finish the first show up before you start the next one?

Electric Turahk 06-04-2017 10:49 AM
It wasn't virtual reality. Literally everything in it was a simulation, including the Doctor and Bill. None of them were real. And you weren't supposed to recognize the book... it was a plot device solely in that episode.

Dr Kain 06-04-2017 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Electric Turahk (Post 686841)
It wasn't virtual reality. Literally everything in it was a simulation, including the Doctor and Bill. None of them were real. And you weren't supposed to recognize the book... it was a plot device solely in that episode.
Simulation, virtual reality, same thing. Either way, I still don't get the episode. It's one of those that I really will need to watch over when the BD set comes out. I also don't understand the random flashbacks with Missy.

Electric Turahk 06-04-2017 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 686842)
Simulation, virtual reality, same thing. Either way, I still don't get the episode. It's one of those that I really will need to watch over when the BD set comes out. I also don't understand the random flashbacks with Missy.
Well you seemed to think they were the real people embedded in a virtual reality, not that they were themselves programs as well. Just trying to keep the two ideas distinct.

The point was just to introduce us to the monks as a threat by showing they are so advanced they have created true artificial intelligence and can wholly replicate the entirety of human history in a simulation to predict where they will go so as to better counter them. Doing something like that isn't an easy feat. That's what I've taken it as any way, though haven't seen the conclusion to the three parter yet either to know how close that was. But the pyramid episod aligns with that I thought.

Kamen Rider Lolita 06-04-2017 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 686832)
There is one thing that is really pissing me off this season though. The lack of an ending to the episodes. The show will cut to commercial but instead of doing a credit sequences or anything to tell me the episode is over Class starts up. WTF? How about you finish the first show up before you start the next one?
So, commercials are broadcast on BBC America? I assumed since the channel is BBC-owned that it would be void of any advertising.

ZeoRangerV 06-04-2017 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 686842)
Simulation, virtual reality, same thing. Either way, I still don't get the episode. It's one of those that I really will need to watch over when the BD set comes out. I also don't understand the random flashbacks with Missy.
The whole thing was a virtual simulation run by the Monks to determine whether they could conquer the Earth, and if so when the best time to do so was. The problem was their simulation was so perfect the people in it began to realise they were a simulation, hence the book. The book contained the truth.

What they didn't count on was the virtual Doctor being clever enough to then go and broadcast the whole thing to real Doctor so he'd be prepared for their actual invasion.


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