Well we got Zi-O from the present & Geiz from the future. We need a rider who's from the past.

My theory is that this rider will be someone far from our time, that the Time Jackers forcefully recruit to destroy Zi-O & become the new king. He won't be controlled, more likely forced to cooperate with them if they want to bring him back to his time.

I would prefer Oma Zi-O as a dark counterpart. Not upgrade.

Damien was very clearly talking about the Decade Upgrade Zi-O gets later and not Oma Zi-O, don't know why you felt the need to say that.

As for the main topic, there are honestly multiple motifs the designers could use for the third rider;
-A sundial with a large Necrom-esque horn on the helmet.
-An hourglass would work really well with the rotating driver gimmick.
-Even an old timey pocket-watch with a chain or something for a scarf.

Yeah. Sorry I was thinking final form alternative for Zi-O instead of Oma Zi-O. My bad.

But anyway, yeah a sundial would be nice, Necrom style. Zi-O's got black with pink eyes and Geiz is red with yellow eyes. To balance the colors, I hope for either blue/indigo/purple eyes with the tertiary rider's suit green. Or the opposite. Maybe a grandfather clock? Don't know.

Should tertiary rider get a belt, brace or portable henshin device like the Gashat Gear Dual?

I'd picture the rider's civilian form in Victorian Steampunk fashion. Something like HG Wells' The Time Machine.

I wanna say a brace, mainly because the show is about watches. Although that is assuming Toei takes the low hanging fruit.

Speaking of eye colors, what should the writing style for the tertiary rider be?

Zi-O is Katakana, Geiz is Hiragana, accounting to Wikipedia that just leaves Man'yōgana for the third rider, but there's still the chance they pick something else.

That Man’yogana would be fitting for someone in the past I guess. Either as blue/indigo/purple or green.

And if it’s gonna be a henshin brace, how do you picture it using RideWatches to henshin? Perhaps Showa era riders?

Isn't there a pin for 2033? Seems our third Rider could be that

If we get a "Showa" based Rider for third Rider, I'd guess they'll only use Watches for finishers, rather than armors. Then Zi-O and Geiz use those watches at some point and we get one or two Showa armors.

There are pins for many years, but all those list Zi-O or Geiz's names (aside from Tsukiyomi 2068), so they wouldn't be new Riders. Well, there are a few exceptions - Ancient (0000); Future (0000); Singular (0000); Nothing (0000); Millennium (2000). Still, aside from Millennium and maybe Ancient, none of those sound like Rider names and the year listing seems odd for most of them.

The third Rider likely will have their own Drive, so their name might not be listed in the Zi-O Driver. Using their collectible there could just result in a generic "RIDER" listing.

Really? I would like to see how Showa Rider Armors work though.

And either the 3rd rider's henshin device be a belt, brace, weapon or portable device like Para-DX's?

If this rider would come from the past, would you imagine this rider's civilian fashion to be something of Victorian era with some steampunk?

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He'd probably wear something from the 70s, or whatever era he's from.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gtrvaried...5824258048?p=v
Zi-o Ryuki armour

If 70s I would love to see that rider wear something Hongo or Kazami would wear.

I love the design for this armor especially with the double Drag Visor shoulder pads. Hopefully it'll get used in the show soon!

Aside from that, when are getting the next scans??? I feel like TIME is moving too slow whenever you're waiting for new episodes or new scans...I just want more ZI-O stuff to drop right now...!

All we need now is Another Ryuki to be a draconic looking monster with a barbecue grill for a face while glaring at its prey with them red eyes. :lolol

That would be nice. Maybe modernize the outfit for a tertiary rider. But with some steampunk.

Unfortunately I doubt it as it came out alongside the Ex-Aid one, next episodes are confirmed to be Faiz and Fourze so I doubt we'll get Ryuki

Zi-O OOO Armor

http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1537621991

Someone pointed out that the art on the packaging for the ridewatch is CG, and it could be Ganbarizing exclusive, at least for now.

How about turning KR Shin into Zi-O's third rider since he's from the past?

They can turn him into something else. Not as a mutant.

*thinks about it*
No thanks. Let's leave that one alone.

Why not? He can represent the past. He has burdens to carry after all.

Something interesting...
https://www.kamen-rider-official.com/collections/20/5
Ex-Aid's cast received flowers for finishing their two episode guest appearance... but Banjo and Sento didn't.

We may not get it this year but there's always next year. Hopefully, they'll release the remaining phase 1 Heisei armors by 2019 and hopefully, they'll be used in the show.

So we have two of the kids from Ultimatum returning in the Fourze tribute along with Ohsugi-sensei. We had a tease of Gentaro from behind in the latest episode but it didn't look like the original actor (could surprise us though). Looks like 5 and 6 will be primarily a Fourze tribute, so I wonder how the Faiz characters will factor in. The preview doesn't give us much to go on either.

Also I am kind of surprised they didn't get any one from the original Rider Club back as guest stars.

I kind of hope Takumi and Kusaka end up being recurring characters.

Has it been reported yet on when they'll place the Double/W arc in the show? If not, what's everyone's predictions on when it'll happen?

The W RideWatch is slated for release in December, along with the Decade RideWatch. So expect the W arc then.

What I hope but it'll never happen: They get both Kiriyama and Suda back and we see them circa 2018 (Could even tie into Futo Tantei if so needed) also nabbing Kinomoto to continue the "Have two Riders show up." thing.

What will probably happen: Kiriyama, Yamamoto and Kinomoto come back and we get some Kamen Rider Joker action in 2018, which I wouldn't mind buuuut eh.

Kiriyama will be busy with a new Drama named Oya Koi starring him, Takada Kaho (Misora) and Eiji Akaso (Banjo) though. So we'll see with the schedules.

Nothing is decided concerning Masahiro Inoue (Decade) too. He visited Toei to see his old director. They want him to appear in Zi-O, he wants too. But he said that's not in his hands : https://nihonhero.weebly.com/home/ma...appear-in-zi-o

Speaking of the flowers, A certain Fruity space god *might* be coming back for Zi-O.
https://nihonhero.weebly.com/home/ga...sunderstanding

Don't take any of this as definite.

Oh god I forgot about Gaim's story. That'll be fun to explain away with "He never became a Rider". RIP Earth, Helheim took over.

I think the whole scenario with Zi-O is from the looks of it is that when they ( Zi-O & Geiz) have their Ridewatches, that season never happened, so it's just the rider having a normal life without all the evil stuff, it's mostly explained in the .5 episode, Where point A is the Rider season and Point B is the Zi-O season. So I wonder if it's a Zelda thing where the timeline splits

I mean I will fully admit I'm just nitpicking and I should really just forget about it making sense, I'm sure it'll end with Zi-O giving back the powers thereby restoring the timeline(s), basically a Gokaiger if Gokaiger involved time travel.

I will say though it'd be fun to see Zi-O come back in 5 years and ask the Riders after him to borrow their powers.

Depends if the franchise doesn't go into hiatus again like Black RX, about 30 years ago.

Why would it?

Because they may be running out of ideas at this point...

as long as toys are selling, even with 0 ideas, the show will continue.

Can't say I'm sure how they're running out of ideas yet anyway. There's countless gimmicks and themes they haven't used yet.

Yeah toku is like Pokemon, constantly running out of ideas according to people yet never actually the case

It's worth noting Sentai (and by association PR) has reused themes so even if they run out of ideas they could do that and give us, say, another space rider or another music rider.

I hope Gaku Sano does come back, he hardly did anything in Heisei Generations Final.

Technically we are re-using themes right now -- Legend Rider forms and Time Travel.

You guys are probably right. They may keep the series going even after ZI-O ends, though I wonder what could be in store for the next Rider of the new era after Heisei (it's quite too early to think about).