I like this idea.

And as for what Yuu said, I think our secondary rider should be a female.

I'm okay with secondary female rider.

I don't recall saying anything like this ,just that the 2ndary riders final form should be evolution themed.

But if we go for it , just for fun, let's make her a female Kusaka except with actual character development :D

Ok im just kidding but whatever .. Its your choice

So Yuu, do you think you can get started on drawing Paleo Thero form with his power ups and then move on to the quad form?

For the feathers, lets only include them on Thero and Aero forms. Aqua and Quad don't really work with feathers.

Let's not discuss the secondary rider yet, but keep your ideas for when we finish Paleo.

Sure but I suggest someone should summarize the forms and their power ups and post them on the first page for a quick reference

Not wanting to fully discus the secondary rider. Just said what I said to quell what could have become an argument.

Waitsowhatwerewetalkingaboutagain?

Doesn't matter Yuu.

Well. If we implement some kind of subtle feathered V fin into the base helmet design, then it could still be there in Quadro form without being obtrusive at all. As I mentioned earlier, technically Aqua shouldn't have feathers at all because, well... Aquatic reptiles aren't scientifically dinosaurs.

Did triceratopses and stegosaurs have feathers?

Which reminds me we haven't decided on the design for the guy behind the suit, Ray Kaseki.
Should I do him too?

No, neither of those Dinosaurs had feathers.


As for Ray....You could draw him if you want. I don't have any idea about what we decided about him yet.

we really have been on this suit too long....

Okay. Doing more research, it does seem like feathers is mostly a Theropod and airborne Dinosaur thing. Okay then. Just limit them to those two, then.

I want to make it clear once again that I'm just suggesting a stylistic armor detail here and there. On the lower legs, around the elbow cuffs, and depending on the final helmet design maybe a couple subtle ones there too. I'm thinking rigid metal ornaments, not actual feathers. It's not like I'm pushing to make them a HUGE part about the design, either. I just think it would be neat to have them there in some way.

Honestly, I don't think so. I'd argue that the suit design is probably the most important part of this project. The base form especially. In the end, that's what will be the mascot which basically represents everything we've done in this entire thread.

That's interesting. I never knew aquatic dinosaurs were never scientifically dinosaurs.

The suit is the most important aspect of a Kamen Rider, so it only makes sense to spend the most time on it.

Thero form:
Element - Fire
Changes: Armor
Dinos - T-rex - "muscle" armor for increased strength
- raptor - shin armor and feet claw, increased speed
- Spinosaurus - lower arms armor, forearms blades
- Carnotaurus - glowing spiked back armor, fire strikes
Finisher: adds all of the armors and Paleo performs a Rider kick with fiery projections of the dinos

Quad (or Quadro?) form
Element - Earth
Changes: Weapon
Dinos - Triceratops - spiked shield
- Stegosaurus - greatsword
- Brachiosaurus - extendable lance
- Ankylosaurus - quake hammer
Finisher: weapons combine into a giant sword and Paleo performs a Rider slash together with rocky projections of the dinos

Aqua form:
Element - Water and Ice
Changes: Attachments into a main gun
Dinos - Plesiosaurus - sniper mode (long range)
- Ichtyosaurus - harpoon mode (melee)
- Megalodon - gatling mode (mid range)
- Mosasaurus - ice blast shotgun mode (short range)
Finisher: all the attachments combine into the main gun and Paleo performs a Rider shooting together with watery projections of the dinos

Aero:
Pteranodon - Back Wings: faster and more maneuverable flight
*Ornithoceirus- Arm Wings: Fold out separately on the upper and lower arms. By swinging his arms, he can sling the lower halves off like mid-range bladed boomerangs that swirl around the enemy before reattaching.
*Microraptor- Bladed Leg Wings: Similar to Thero Spino's arm blades, but instead on the... Well. Legs.
*Tupandactylus- Head Wing/Fin: An already existing head crest (like a Pteranodon/Speed Biker's helmet) fans up into a fin that let's Paleo conjure lightning bolts.

Omni:
4 power ups based off of the 4 base forms
Mash up like DoGaBaKi in a way

Final:
Fossil/extinct theme
Not discussed enough

Hey Yuu, I was wondering why your drawing of Paleo didn't have the belt on him?

I mean. They're still prehistoric creatures that existed at the same time as dinosaurs, so it fits the bill for our Rider here. But while I don't know the specifics off the top of my head, I'm pretty certain they're technically a different thing. Although the separation there might be just that they're not land dwelling. Could also have something to do with their posture and bone structure. Or maybe it's that they're believed to have evolved from a different something-or-other.

I ain't no science man.

I was in a hurry

I am gonna say that before we do extinct form, we should actually make the extinct. Because the form should reflect them both in power and design.

Meaning we should make the villains before the final form

well yeah I guess that makes more sense but are we gonna stick with just calling the villains the "Extinct"? sounds too straightforward. Plus it would probably be awkward for the villains to refer to themselves as that feels like they're calling themselves "Those guys that died the other day"

something along the the lines of : Ancestors, Saurians, Returners, Originators, Einst, Dead Apostles, True Ancestors, ok maybe not these last three but something unique

Here's an order of what drawings you should do, Yuu:
Thero
-Power Ups
Quad
-Power Ups
Aqua
-Power Ups
Aero
-Power Ups
Omni
-Power Ups
Villains
Final Form
Thanks Yuu!

Maybe a please and thank you should be in there too, Helios...?

Happy?

I agree with Green. Yuu's taking the time to design this for you, and you're asking for a lot up front. I don't know how Yuu's process is when designing, but I can assure you he takes his time to get to those amazing designs of his. I mean, I can crank mine out willynilly but Yuu takes his time to try and meet your expectations. Thank yous and pleases should be given to Yuu for his work. That and it would've been better if you said "you could" instead of "you should." The former sounds more like asking while the latter sounds more like a command.

Not exactly the response that helps, Helios. I know you're trying to get this organized and have everyone take in on the fun but recently, your attitude towards the project seems a little bit more...demanding than leading. Relax man, have some fun.

Much. :lol


Yuu takes a lot of time out of their day to do this art. Lets never forget that. And that goes for EVERYONE.

I did add "Thanks" to the post. I wasn't asking him to do it all at once, I was just telling him the order he should draw them in. He can take as much time as he wants, I just wanted to tell him what should come next if he was wondering. Sorry if I was being demanding and tyrannical.

So how is the belt going to work/look?

you could change that to "those who died that day" and it actually becomes a super stupid sounding awesome name for a group of villains.

and tbh, I always felt the extinct were the evolutions of dinosaurs similar to how monkeys/primal man evolved into humans. that way we could add the "sacrifice your humanity for ultimate power" bit with an evolutionary theme.

http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4427xdbb.jpg
- Make sure the magnifying glass dial is turned all the way to the left. Pull the lever on the right side to open up the jaws.
- Insert an Amber Stone and push the lever, closing the jaws. The stone slides into the base of the Driver and under the view of the magnifying glass.

HENSHIN! From this point on, Paleo is transformed:

- Turn the glass to select one of the dinos in the amber stone. Doing this opens springs the jaws open again, but the lever stays closed, and the stone stays inside. The magnifying glass sort of disconnects the jaws from the lever system. From this point, when the jaws are "chomped" they spring back open.

- Quickly chomp once to activate the selected dinosaur power.

- While a dino power is active, chomp twice for a special attack.

- You're also able to turn the glass to a different Dino and chomp down once to switch powers.

- Finally, turn the glass all the way to the right end of the dial and chomp twice to activate the SUPER SPECIAL COMBINED HISSASTU FINISHER.

- Turn the glass all the way back to the left and pull the lever to spit out the Amber Stone.

Form here there's two options:

1.) To switch forms, pull out the stone and replace a new one before pushing the lever back in - closing the jaws and initiating the next transformation.

2.) To deactivate the transformation, remove the stone completely and push the lever - closing the jaws without an Amber Stone inside.

Since this is a dinosaur theme, wonder if you can give some Hulk vibe to this rider.

Some way to control the beast when it goes to final form or something.

What if the hero is transformed into a kaijin and if the final form can suppress it.

I imagone story wise the control would come from Ray not wanting to lose his humanity

What I imagine is the opposite, that using the final form risks turning him to a monster, and the more time and power output he uses increases the chance of him turning into one (probably that the final form slowly fossilizes his body while he uses it)

I dunno who's gonna write the story but you can count on me on the really dark and f***ed up (more than NGE and Madoka) parts if there are any

Hey Yuu, I had an idea. Instead of drawing each form, why not just draw what changes? It'll save you time, energy, and resources.

Nah I'm fine with drawing each form. Its much more fun that way.

Also I just finished drawing their form ..so..we could move on at least

Alright. Just thought I'd put it out there.

I'd put it out here too but its like 3 am here, I just woke up to use the bathroom and decided to take a peek here using my phone and maybe watch some po- ...I mean watch youtube videos till I get sleepy again.

Nice cover up. 3am?! That's twelve hours difference from me!!

East coasters complaining about 12 hour time change XD

What about the dino rider's final form to be based on Godzilla? The 1998 or the 2014 version?

before we design the final form we should probably design the VILLAINS who the final form is based on.