well, right now, we need to focus on his enemies so we can then get to his final form.

also, I think side riders are better used when they don't have a direct involvement to the main character.
like, Date had no involvement with Eiji and I loved that, they were just 2 completely different people who had to work together.

A walking nuke is an interesting idea. His extinction form could have the ability to actually cause an extinction.

that could be the power of the extinct.

being able to turn objects or people into exctinct like creatures.

A main idea for Rider is "The Hero uses the powers of the Villains against them."

Ryotaro gets possessed by Imagin, Haruto gains his Magic from his own Phantom, Wataru employs the former King's Kivat partnership, Kenzaki harnesses the Joker's ability to seal Undead, Takumi uses Smart Brain's own tech to topple them etc.

How do the enemies of Paleo function to encorporate Amber Stones? What is their plan for them?

As a basic MOTW premise, I imagined The Extinct turning fossils into Kaijin. Perhaps every now and again re-animating an entire Dinosaur skeleton to do their bidding.

Nowadays Kamen Rider shows usually contains 3 themes: the theme of the Rider(s) (ie. Legend of Momotarou, vehicles, elementals, fruits), the theme of the Villains (ie. Constellations, fables, stained glass monsters), and then the theme of the plot which sometimes relate to the modus operandi of the villains (ie. Desire, hope, sacrifice). Maybe we can organize it in this fashion first to see how Paleo, the Extincts, and their goal/methods all connect.

Why stop there, let's make em also occationally turn people into fossils then use evil amber stones to turn their corpses into monsters

that could be good for later arcs, but probably not good for an entire series story.
like, OOO had Gamel turn people into medals which was kinda nightmare fuel, but I think it would make the series too dark if it was used through the entire thing.

I like the idea of people being forced to turn into monsters of the week, but not all the time.

That's an amazing idea, we have to do that for the kaijin.

but how would they procure of fossils in the first place?

Umm... from their fallen people throughout time?

The villains' powers could be to create kaijin via "awakening" dormant DNA. Sources could be anything from fossils, extinct or extant animals, what-have-you. For human kaijus as a short arc, perhaps there's a tribe of human who were descended from that magical toku age where they lived with the dinosaurs and inherited their heritage/whatever.

Any chance for the kaijin to mix dino fossils with humans skeletons?

As for a female kamen rider, perhaps the use of a parasaurolophus?

Fangires killed and ate people on a regular basis (assuming that going translucent was a one-way gig) and every Phantom was once a living person with a life, hopes, dreams, family and friends.

And with Fangires, Rook killed as many people as possible based on some theme within a time limit for FUN.

It doesn't have to be awakening dormant DNA it could instead be by mutating existing DNA like how evolution works

I too kinda want an early heisei tone with the story

I did mean mutating, awakening a cat to its unchanged DNA would be a pretty non-threatening creation wouldn't it? Whatever term you use for it, as I'm not sure on the exact nature of the Extincts. I can only intuit so far that they are beings that have tried to forcible evolve themselves for power. I used awakening because they would see it as a uplifting creature to their true potential.

Let's say that the villain's base is at a site where there are several fossils all around them.

sure why not

anyway Im gonna start sketching the other forms later so heres some thing I plan on implementing on them:

Remember the how Thero has a magnifying glass on his chest? I plan having it on different positions with each form. Pointed northeast for Thero, Southeast for Quad, Southwest for Aqua, Northwest for Aero and Downwards for Omni. Doesn't really have a function, just looks cool

And the ribcage shoulder pad is different for every form.

Thero- Ribcages
Quad- either a large piece of anky armor or triceratops....um...fin thingy
Aqua- Gill-like vents that absorb moisture from the environment
Aero- Feather-like armor
Omni- everything placed on the extremities

this are mostly aesthetic though

what about you guys do you have any ideas you want implemented as well?

and in that same series, we get a touching storyline of two men whose lives were "ruined" by Kurenai cut short because "gotta make the monster super edgy" AFTER they had realized that they liked their lives the way they were. it didn't feel tragic it felt unwarranted and unnecessary.

like, I'm okay with dark elements, but it doesn't need to be super mega ultra dark edgiest of edge kinda thing.

You don't really need to kill people to make a story dark......

You just have to break them and make them suffer *insert innocent smile here*

Wanna hear how I do it :D

No thank you.

Funny I was just collecting pictures of Dino's for reference until I googled tupandactyllus and I was like...WTF is that thing for real!?

Here are a list of ice age beasts the secondary rider can use:
- Smilodon
- Dire Wolf
- Mastodon
- Wooly Mammoth
- Megatherium
- Brontotherium
- Glyptodon
- Doedicurus
- Diatryma
- Dodo Bird
- Basilosaurus
- Sivatherium
- Megaloceros
- Uintatherium
- Diprotodon
- Cave Lion
- Elasmotherium
- Indricotherium
- Hyaenodon
- Gigantopithecus
- Argentavis
- Andrewsarchus
- Archaeopteryx

http://exhibits.museum.state.il.us/e...e_animals.html

mastadon is definitely a gimme.

but we need to go into the extinct, not the secondary rider.

Gotcha! I thought I posted this so that everyone will get the idea needed.

Any thoughts on these... "Extinct"? Cause I'm thinking for the dino rider's hissatsu waza to be called... Extinction.

W: Maximum Drive - Memory Break
OOO: Scanning Charge
Fourze: Limit Break
Wizard: Kick/Slash/Shooting/Shining/Magnum Strike
Gaim: Squash/Au Lait/Sparking
&
Drive: Full Throttle

For the "Extinct's" grunts... they should be based on ammonites & trilobites.

http://img07.deviantart.net/b1d8/i/2...r_by_pwnr5.png
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_menhbtkNym1r7azfs.png

Well here's a rider based on Trilobites/Ammonites.
I blew proportions out the window. Just trying to get the idea across.
Sorry for the bad quality; I drew it on good ol' pen and paper.
https://36.media.tumblr.com/b3cf0026...5jfo1_1280.jpg

we need to focus on extinct.
not the secondaries.

We're working on the main rider, Paleo, so please don't discuss other riders yet.

Well ammonites, trilobites & anomalocaris would be perfect footsoldiers.

Heeeeerrrreee's Quadro
http://i1362.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4sbfsyll.jpg

I'll draw the power ups later...I couldn't fit them in the paper

nice!

Notice how the stone in the chest looks like its embedded in bricks compared to Thero forms volcanic rock...its because this form is built like a brick wall. :D

The manifestation of beauty. Perfection once again Yuu! By the way, the stego sword is only in his possession when he activates the stego power up. Also, take your time with the power ups. Thanks Yuu for these masterpieces so far.

I know the form just looks cooler holding a weapon so I drew the sword as well

Great work Yuu. What colors are you thinking for the forms?

Hot Damn!! Love this form Yuu!!! Also, SAVED!!!

Yuu. Dude. You seriously need to get a job at Bandai. I'm not kidding, those drawings are fantastic.

I agree it makes it look way cooler. The power ups are just weapons so, you only need to draw the weapons and the combined finisher sword. Keep up the good work, man!

Auooouuhohohoho hahaha I just found something I can't unsee ..look at quadros left shoulder

Gotta fix that later

What's wrong? I'm missing something. Explain please!!