All 3 look NICE!

The designs keep wowing. Loving them! Kabuto's got some oomph to it. Den-O is all kinds of wow. And that Hibiki is glorious.

Eeeeh, don't hold your breath. I think the most we'll see in show of a pre-W armor would be Kuuga. Decade already celebrated Kuuga to Kiva, Zi-O is seemingly more leaning to W - Build.

Faiz has already happened. I don't recall seeing any other indications of pre-Decade Ride Armor in the first-quarter catalog, but then again, it was only the first-quarter catalog.

I mean, they ALL appeared in the catalogue. We'll just have to wait and see. So far we have Faiz as confirmed for predecade and Den-O, Ryuki, Hibiki and Kabuto confirmed to not be there. So Kuuga, Agito, Blade and Kiva are left

Hibiki's still one of my all time favorite seasons and I LOVE that armor time.

...did not realize that these weren't meant for the show though, wtf is that crap?

Wait, no Ryuki either?

Maaaaaan. This season really should have been a celebration of the entire era, given that it's the end of the era.

What’ll happen with Ryuki? Will any of the 13 riders come back?

Odin manipulated time, Kanzaki ended the war with him and Yui gone making the war not happen.

All Heisei will appear in series or movies. And that includes the 90s ones too. As we've already been teased for Shin's form. Black RX may also have a later cameo, as it was the previous show to end an era. And after Den-O, Showa will be opened up to possible. Though W, Ghost, Ex-Aid, and others are connected to original anyway. So technically they do exist in this world. Out of neo-Heisei, only Wizard, Gaim, and Build weren't connected to original. And like the anime "Dual", Pandora's box was the relic that made Build's world a parallel timeline. So with Build "erased" his world is now in the normal timeline because Pandora's box never happened. Same as Wizard's episode and how he gets erased means his magic world is gone and now part of the normal timeline. Though it's also possible Wizard was part of the normal timeline too since Magic was a secret except in the movie. Gaim on the other hand is the one that's going to be intersting to see how they cover it, but again, once the another rider exists and the show is erased, the reasons why his show was a different world are erased too.

Like how "Another Faiz" erased Orphenocs from existing, which was also shown with how another fourze erased the MOTW of Fourze.

Decade is going to be a weird one though. Because his show deals with the extended multiverse itself. So definitely curious how that'll impact Kuuga potentially, or if they'll do the double reference again in that. Decade's ride watch is also a little different. So it's going to do more than normal ride watches too. Which the show "erasures" raise another question on how that impacts Decade's multiverse and his cards too. Also raises the question on what "another decade" will be like and what abilities or if it's an extension of the Faiz/Fourze double another watch experiment.

Diend and Decade, besides Agito, were the other riders that sort of already had an "Another Rider" form. Because of the sentai crossover episode. Kind of curious if we'll see a return of Diend's sentai monster form.

With the way the show works, could be any, but the main premise is on lead riders, so the another rider will be Ryuki and maybe Knight. Doubtful on Knight but possible. Ryuki is guaranteed though for the rider show timeline to cease existing. So far, side riders don't have that full effect and may have a selective effect of only erasing themselves from their original series.

As we saw with ex-aid, pocket dimensions limit the effect and cause a delay, so the ryuki mirror world could stall it some. Which raises some questions about how fast that happens and if Clockup can slow the effect or how it impacts Hyper clockup too.

Normally, once a main series another rider exists, the side riders lose their powers too. We're about to fully find out this week with the Wizard episode. But last week with Kaixa not having his belt seems to suggest as such too.

So once the Ryuki another Rider exists, Odin doesn't exist. For now at least.

But any rider can become a ride watch too as we saw with Cross-Z in the beginning and have seen preview images of other side riders becoming Ride Watch armors. And they haven't fully explored the limits of pocket dimension effects on the timing delay, only hinted at it with Ex-aid with how he co-existed with his another rider for a decent amount of time or at least seemed to.

Which also raises the question of how much of Ghost was erased too, since it had different planes of existence that may not be as impacted by the erase effect. But once a ride watch exists, normally that series is considered erased. With a few exclusions based on when it's gone. Like we saw with Build and Ex-aid, if no ride watch exists, and the another rider is reverted back to human, a rider regains their memories and their timeline/show restored. I'd have to rewatch the Ex-aid episodes to see the exact pocket dimension timing on that and look for the details. His powers and full memories returning could have been because Another Ex-aid was reverted to human and Sougo hadn't gotten the ride watch for Ex-Aid yet.

What Shin form? If you are talking about the silhouette in the last Terebi-kun magazine, that was for Gaim Armour. The spot with the three 90s Rider's is unrelated to Zi-O.

It sucks that we are presumably not getting any of these Armour Time's in the show. I hope they still do tributes for the remaining pre-Decade shows in some form.

Not as unrelated as you might think, you might want to check the leaked sound effect release.

And we're going to get more in the show than you think. The movies are going to be connected to the show like how Build's was. So anything attained in a movie will carryover to the show. Barring any effect heavy too costly things or anything else removed by story.

We're going to get quite a lot in the show. Nearly all Heisei with really only Ghost as maybe questionable(but his ride watch is in the show), and more surprises than that.

Literally with the release of these 3 new designs, we're seeing more pre-Decade getting prepped. The show still has 42+ episodes to go plus several movies and specials.

Do you actually have, like, any proof for this, or are you yet again making it all up because you're just like that?
Also no. Build was a seperate thing the whole time, until he merged them at the end of his series. You know, the entire point of the final arc.

Amazing how you know all this without having seen the episode. And how you're ignoring the fact that we've seen Wizard in the "Heisei" universe since - see Heisei Generations for that.
Again, not a different world, he's been in three different crossovers without any mention of "Another World!"

It won't be Knight. Notice how the series is called Kamen Rider Ryuki.
More speculation disguised as proper fact. It's impressive how much there is here.
Forgetting about Cross-Z back in episode 1/2.
I mean, we saw Cross-Z's RideWatch in a different series, written by a different writer. It might come back in the movie, which is my best guess (notice how I put theorising with the word "Guess" in it), or it might never be mentioned again. And, once again, your pocket dimension theory is based off one moment, which was never elaborated on. Like, speculation is all well and good, but presenting it as "This is definitely what the writers were thinking which I know" is lies, plain and simple.

So, despite the fact the sillohette matches perfectly to leaked images of Gaim form, and we've seen no other Showa/Pre-Kuuga based riders yet, even the popular ones, you're still adamantly insisting on your pet theory?

Whew boy, you once again go around spouting info like it's the truth, I only said that most Phase 1 Heisei Riders wouldn't show up as Ride Armors due to them already releasing the toys. This isn't a placeholder thing, if we get actual in show forms then they wouldn't have released these toys already.

You keep saying that Wizard and Gaim are seperate universe despite neither show stating or hinting they do, you just use your own weird theories. With Build's ending every Heisei show now takes place on the same world, I'd even say all of Showa and Heisei take place on the same world but I haven't seen much of Showa. But with Ichigo showing up in Ghost without any dimension hopping BS it's safe to assume Kamen Rider through Black RX takes place in the same world, as Kuuga to Build.

Wizard shows up at the end of Fourze, this already establishes that he's from the same world. In Heisei Gens he shows up without any complications or implications of showing up from a different world. Gaim's god like powers could suggest he could come from a different world but AGAIN, nothing implies it took place in another world. He also laments in Heisei Final that the non Sky-Wall Earth was the one he grew up on, implying it was the same world. Ex-Aid's Gorider miniseries also goes into this, Genm had the ability to look up info on Riders, Riders from what you say are different universes. Genm has never shown he has any sort of knowledge of different worlds past the Game World (He created) and Build's world (After Gorider). Another Agito, Baron, Marika and Blade all show up cause he found out they were deceased or missing. Last time I checked, the general internet wouldn't have information on A.R world Riders.

Fourze itself also confirms that Kamen Riders are seen as urban legends, they all have info (and even dress up as older Riders) which once again supports that ALL OF KAMEN RIDER takes place on the same world UNLESS stated otherwise (e.g Amazons).

Well at least Blade and Agito/Kuuga (by extension) take place in different universes (or they used to) since they have dramatically different creation myths (that aren't really myths).

Kabuto's status is debatable since Kabuto's storyline left Tokyo with a giant crater in the middle of it that's never addressed in future seasons despite it being a big deal.

Kabuto is a weird one, that meteor and all that kinda makes you go "We'd see that later on right?" but it could always be explained away with "It was a different city so we don't see it in this city". As they kinda do, I mean the Kamen Rider universe has like 50 Tokyo Towers in different cities.

Kuuga gets referenced by Fourze with in universe footage of Kuuga, and Agito being a direct sequel I'd personally say that's a pretty big indicator it's in the same world.

Alright, ignoring Super Hero Taisens, because I really don't want to use those unless forced to, here's what we have:
By the ending of Black RX, all the Showa series up to that point take place in the same universe. Shadow Moon and a Shin villain later battle Kamen Riders ZO and J in "Kamen Rider World" or something, so all the Showa series take place in one universe.

From a mix of Movie Wars Megamax, Heisei Generations and Heisei Generations Final, W to Ex-Aid all take place in the same universe, which is apparently a really unlucky place to live. Build was a seperate, unrelated universe, until the end of the series happened and glued them together.

The Heisei Series is where it gets messy. Decade implies that they all exist in their own universes, with Kuuga and Agito maybe sharing, maybe not. Den-O and Kiva do have a cross-over, as do Ryuki and Agito, but I haven't seen the Kiva one, so I don't know how well it meshes with the Kiva TV show. Given the SHT films giving precedence to them, you could maybe assume Faiz and Blade both take place in the neo-Heisei universe (from Kamen Rider 4 and Goriders, respectively) but I'm hesitant to do so.

My entire "Showa era takes place in the same world as heisei" is from Kamen Rider Ichigo, they made an effort to have all the Kamen Riders meet up and team up. the Ghost Riders met up with Ichigo, so that's basically my entire arugement for that.

I forgot about that one, good catch. And, by way of the Legend Eyecon specials, which are canon because of Ghost's Endgame, it's canon, so it all works out. Noice.

What if Schwarz became a rider with using Another Ridewatches?

We’ll still have Oma Zi-O as the main antagonist though.

I'm convinced they just don't care about whether series make sense existing in the same world. Unless they want to do a plot where alternate universes are relevant, the crossover assumes everyone is in the same universe, no matter how many plot holes that creates.

Yes, the Driver has sounds for Zi-O/Geiz 1971 and 1989, and every Heisei and Showa Rider but it's very possible that many of those either won't get used or well be a toy-exclusive.

Side note, 1971 is when the first Kamen Rider show aired and 1989 is the year the Heisei era started.

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Huh, he got demoted to King?

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Also, regarding the Rider universe, Blade is really the one that's most iffy. The events leading up to Kabuto definitely raise some flags regarding its place in the Rider universe/multiverse, but doesn't technically contradict anything.

But Blade is probably the most confusing piece about all of this. It should technically be canon because Blade shows up in an Ex-Aid special (though the special itself could still go either way). But the problem is that it comes into direct conflict with Agito as far as humanity's origins. But Kuuga/Agito is for sure within the same universe as the Showa Riders and the post-Decade shows.

Everything else fits. You can even ignore the big ass meteor from Kabuto since it doesn't "technically" come into conflict with another show. And Decade is just such a clusterfuck of a show in general regarding the Rider multiverse that it ultimately doesn't matter. But Blade is definitely a question mark for me.

Blame the Time Jackers

Sadly, his ego doesn't even know it's happened. LOL

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Having time machine conveniently as well as incompetent sougo being able to control it is already not necessarily a plot hole, but makes the shows less serious to overthink because even the silly .5 episodes poke fun of themselves in regard of script, guest, and timeline as well the faiz phone. They will never address it like Gosei said to the Black to Green ranger. I'm hope that it's a paradox and everything they're doing now is what ohma zio wanted.

"Kamen Rider Zi-O! Armor Time! Turn Up! Blade!"

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Can't even see the body...

Kinda in love.

I just realized, have we gotten any notice of anybody from the OOO cast returning?

The OOO arc should be coming up in November, which at the earliest is 2 episodes away from now.

Already seen it and I love it.

No one from OOO is coming back (at the moment).

So far, we only got Mr. God from Ex-Aid.

OOO arc begins after the Wizard arc on the final week of October and concludes on the second week of November.

ZI-O goes on break on November 4th.

My hope is that they'll try to do the same thing Gokaiger did where they got some of the ultimate powers and then did tribute episodes/guest roles later. Like Gokaiger got Timeranger, Abaranger, and Zyuranger at the same time, but all of those teams have a guest role later on. I could see Zi-O doubling back to do an episode or two when an actor from that show becomes available in much the same way. Of course, that's just me hoping they learned from Gokaiger.

That happened with Gokaiger because there was a big organized movement involving the past actors to return after the tsunami.

That said, I think something like that might happen here if only because we likely will see all standard Rider Watches gathered by the end of December, considering the toyline. I doubt they'll just drop the past Rider appearances at that point, so they must be planning something else for the rest of the show.

Agito and Zi-O Ghost suits. Judging by the belt that might be Decade

Question is if it's movie or show, personally think it's movie myself.

I'd guess it's the show. The toylist had an appearance slot for Zi-O Ghost in the tv show and we still haven't seen any shooting for that.

Also, Takeru seems to run alongside Tsukiyomi in that scene, rather than fighting alongside the Riders, so he's probably powerless. Note that the location is the same.

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It seems they will be fused Decade and Ghost Tribute episode just like Fourze with Faiz.....