Juran has a family?

Yeah. He mentioned them in Episode 5 and how he's been out of touch with them for a long time.

That could be something to cheer up Kaito about his missing parents. It was so long ago I think it would've be elaborated on by now, heck I'd even think the writer must've forgotten about it.

Yeah, I hope we at least get something like what Shinnosuke said to Dimension Cab after Hakaiser gets freed, and that Hakaiser gets freed so this can happen.

Villain toys don't sell. It's why ToQger's popular Kuliner was relegated to an exclusive release.

As for what I want to see, I just want all the Sentai gears to be used.

I doubt Komura would just forget about such an important line. Writers usually keep notes about this stuff. Even if she doesn't do anything with it, someone will probably make fanfiction about it.

You mean Dream Vegas right? That cute rainy scene where Shinnosuke held an umbrella to keep him dry while they bonded over their shared guilt of their partners getting injured?

No wonder Villain toys don't sell. They are put into such exclusive releases.

Think about it: Why would Kamen Rider release the Villain Gimmicks like the Anotherwatches, the Lost Fullbottles, the Dopant Memories, the Zoidart Switches, the Viral Cores, etc if "villains don't sell toys?" What about Transformers? I find it hard to believe that Villains don't sell toys. How many people wish that they could have villain action figures to fight their hero action Figures? How many little kids want those figures? Plus, it's hard to tell whether or not times have changed and whether or not toys of villains can actually sell in this current time when they are made so exclusive and hard to get.
And, considering that the Kuliner was so popular, if they would have released that figure into the Main DX Toyline instead of just releasing the Kuliner into just that exclusive release, maybe the ToQger Toyline could have made more money.

Those are also all Premium Bandai

I'm sorry, but what the heck are you two talking about, what does this have to do with Zenkaiger?

Yes, it was Dream Vegas, now that I think about it. I would imagine something vaguely similar, except with Zyuran telling Kaito about his family.

I noticed a character parallel and thought of one of the ways it might pan out, but I accidentally picked the wrong one of one of the pairs.

Geez. What the H-E Double Hockey Sticks! How much money could have been made if they would have made them in general retail?

Also, one of my expectations that sadly wasn't reached was that they had room for creating Mecha based upon the 9 Series between Gokaiger and Zenkaiger (Go-Busters, Kyoryuger, ToQger, Ninninger, Zyuohger, Kyuranger, Lupinranger vs Patranger, Ryusoulger, and Kiramager) but they didn't make any more Legend Sentai Mecha. They only created Mecha based upon the 35 Series up until Gokaiger. Zenkaizer was based upon both Gorenger/Goranger and JAKQ. Stacaesar and the Battle Caesar Robo were based upon Battle Fever J, Super Zenkaizer and Zenkai Juran were based upon Zyuranger, Zenkai Gaon was based upon Gaoranger, Zenkai Magine was based upon Magiranger, Zenkai Vroon was based upon Boukenger, Twokaizer was based upon Gokaiger, TwokaiRicky was based upon Ohranger, TwokaiCutanner was based upon Shinkenger, and Super Twokaizer was based upon Timeranger. This felt like a major missed opportunity. Zyuranger and Timeranger were both represented in the combination of GoZyuJin which combined qualities of TimeJet Gamma, Dragon Caesar, Defense Mecha Raimei, Guardian Beast Tyrannosaurus, and V-Rex as well as some of the Abarangers' AbarenOh; the Gokaiger GaoLion helped represent both Gaoranger and Shinkenger; there was the Gokaiger version of MagiDragon from Magiranger. Otherwise, the only "new ground" that they covered were just Mecha from series from Gorenger/Goranger to Gokaiger. None from Go-Busters to Kiramager. I hope that at least the Four Kikainoids get upgraded forms based upon Mecha from Series after Gokaiger. Juran could get upgraded to resemble Gabutyra/Kyoryujin from Kyoryuger or Tyramigo/Kishiryujin from Ryusoulger, Gaon could get upgraded to resemble Shishi Voyager/KyurenOh from Kyuranger, Vroon could get upgraded to resemble Mashin Fire/Kiramaizin from Kiramager, and, err, hmm. What could Magine become? I at least have the upgraded form for 3 of them. Possibly Magine could be upgraded to resemble Gosei Dragon/Gosei Great from Goseiger? It may be before Gokaiger, but otherwise, I have no idea. But at least I have ideas for 3 Upgrade Forms for Juran, Gaon, and Vroon which upgrade them to resemble Mecha from after Gokaiger. Zenkai Juran could be renamed to "Zenkai Kyoryu", Zenkai Gaon could be renamed "Zenkai Kyuran", and Vroon could be renamed "Zenkai Mashin". Their names might no longer represent their civilian names, but most of the time, Sentai Ranger Names don't equal their civilian names.

It's fine to do something other than referencing every series ever. It doesn't need to be Gokai 2.

I mean not that much? Like I get what you mean with Transformers raking in tons with selling Decepticon figures, but that highlights a major difference: Namely that Transformers (Hasbro) sells Decepticon action figures. Meanwhile a lot of the things you mentioned like the Dopant Memories or Lost FullBottles are roleplay toys/items.

It's one thing for kids to make DX JuraGaon beat up Dark JuraGaon, it's another for them to go outside and pretend they're Solomon play-fighting another kid pretending to be Saber.

For example, notice how Power Rangers Dino Fury (also Hasbro) here in the US sells action figures of Void Knight at retail, but not his version of the Dino Fury Saber (idk what it's actually called in the show).

There's also that ever since 84, there's always been a lot less Decepticons available at retail than Autobots. Even in recent collector-aimed lines like Kingdom there's a noticeably larger proportion of good guys, despite BW as a show having an equal split of heroes and villains. Heroes, typically, just sell better.

Also that Dark JuraGaon would cost, like, a lot? JuraGaon as is costs something like 7,800 yen so that's the price range kids would be looking at, for a robo that isn't even a character and appeared in about three episodes. It's a dark repaint so that helps it, but I dunno; doesn't seem worth the risk

Ahh, okay.

But, here are some things which make these arguments feel a bit weaker. Like how the Karakuri Mantle was released in toy form. Who would want a piece of cloth that was only used once and wasn't even that useful? Also, what about giving ZenKaijuOh's Two Components the compatibility to become Super ZenkaiOh and Super TwokaiOh even though it was used only once and never again? They weren't even given new suits, just CGI models. And it didn't even beat the upgraded Battle Caesar Robo. That required ZenKaijuuOh to finish off the BCR. Anyways, do you remember roleplaying when you were a child? Pretending you were a knight-in-shining armor rescuing your friend from the "dragon" at the top of the playplace, either in the playground at your elementary school or at the McDonalds? Do you remember wearing your Halloween Costume with your friend who just so happened to wear a matching costume? Like you were dressed up as Batman and your friend was dressed up with a Joker (Mark Hamill) costume. And you play-fight.
Plus, Villain Characters, especially in Tokusatsu, have extremely cool designs, sometimes, even cooler than the heroes of those series. So who wouldn't want to pretend they were one of those characters?

The U.S./Western Market is more amenable to villain toys than the Japanese Market. Transformers have always been an outlier in this regard, but even they aren't balanced or consistent. Recall Transformers lore and note that by the time of Zone, villain toys were no longer important even if they were central to the story. This would change with future entries.

Another potential outlier are the myriad of Kaiju and Villain toys in Ultraman. It should be noted however that Ultra Kaiju have their own unique popularity and anything and anyone that exists in that franchise tends to get at least one vinyl figure.

Much of the role-playing aspect in your assessment is from a Western perspective and it ultimately doesn't matter how good the designs are. Final Analysis: it's actually easier to get a Toku Monster toy from P.R. than it is from Sentai!

TBF It's been years since I saw Kamen Rider Drive so it's been years that I know of plot points.

Does anyone remeber Twokaizer's Shinken and Ohran forms ?

Ha-ha-ha-ha!!

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Yep, that's a big peach.

- Helmetless Kaito
- Hakaizer's upgrade with cape
- Stacey's mother, Juran's grandpa and Jack Sparrow?
- Hakaiser's giant robot

Two for one! :D

What's Captain Jack Sparrow doing in Zenkaiger :lol:

no way super awsome.

This series knows that Captain Jack Sparrow is my favorite Pirate character of all time and made him Zox, Flint, Rickey, and Cutanner's dad. Absolute mad lads!

Hakaiser gets a cape. That's neat, is Stacey going to get another upgrade in the future? And Great King Ghidorah! Hakaiser's new robot looks magnificent!!! Figure, when!?

I will lose my mind if Jyuran's grandpa, Sanjou, introduces himself Momotaros style with an "ore, sanjou!"

And then there's Stacey's mom (insert song here). Looks like we're going to get a whole slew of family reunions around now!

Zenkaiger continues to look great, and I am all for it!

Just so everyone is aware, the old Zyuran looking character and Toei's Jack Sparrow are not the fathers of Zyuran and the Goldtsuikers respectively, they're their ancestors. The grandpa Zyuran is Sanjyo, and Toei's Jack Sparrow is Piraate(romanized as piraato) Goldtsuiker. Piraate is most likely them reading pirate much like how some people would read muscles as muskels for whatever reasons be it comedic or to just appear goofy. Sanjyo is probably a reference to the Triassic period just like Yukito/Abare Blue's surname.

This was a show about a new team of heroes and their predecessors from the start. It's just that now there's more of a focus on the predecessors that weren't in a Sentai before.

Any news updates regarding the possibility of Super Sentai Movie Ranger or Party 2022 (either as a double-billed type or a triple-billed type), Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger Vs. Kiramager Vs. Super Sentai Team-up Movie, DonBrothers Movie and more Kiramager Spinoffs by TTFC? I feel worried that there won't be a team-up/VS Movie next year due to the current situation right now. And no new updates on the Kiramager cast and other veteran actors and actresses of the Super Sentai Series that'll probably meet Kiita Komagine, Atsuki Mashiko and Hinami Mori? This is taking forever!

Unfortunately, you've gotta be patient. With the pandemic still ongoing, Toei can't do all big crossover stuff with huge guest casts. It's a bummer, but the safety of crew and the actors comes first. And if something like that gets announced, I'm sure someone will post about it in this thread not long after

There could definitely be a teamup between the Zenkaigers and the Donbrothers, but I think we already got the massive teamup in that special with the All Red Gear

Yeah, I know that. But many Super Sentai Fans are still waiting for a possible Zenkaiger-Kiramager-Super Sentai Team-up Movie. You know, like Kaito and Juuru; Juran and Sena; Gaon and Tametomo; Vroon and Shiguru; Magine and Sayo; Zox and Takamichi; the other Super Sentai Teams from the Showa, the Heisei and the Reiwa Eras; and AkaRed. How I wished the Mashins from Crystalia will go back to Earth to fight alongside the Zenkai Mecha and other Super Sentai Mechas. We already saw that in Super Hero Senki last July, but the fans wanted more of the Mecha and Robot actions. And also, I wanna see the last sketch of Juuru on the last page of his sketch book to see what will the sketch looked like. Another possibility is the AkaRed Gear. Don't know why Bandai didn't released it just yet. But since it's COVID-19 Pandemic, everything will be ended up empty handed. I just don't want the VCinext movie (Zenkai Vs. Kiramai Vs. SS) to be cancelled, but when it comes to DonBrothers Vs. Zenkaiger, that's probably be in 2023. I have to wait even further. Thanks for waking me up to the truth.

You are a weird person.

Jesus Christ, I keep telling that guy to cut that more than once. I think he's doing this on purpose at this point.

I wouldn't mind Zenkaiger and Kiramager teamup. It'd be an incredible opportunity to see what the All Red Gear does when inside a cockpit.

The team-up is almost a given, as long as there's not a Kyuranger Vs Zyuohger situation, which means it never happens.

I bet one of the Kiramagers would comment on how the Zenkaigers can combine robots but they can't.

I personally really want ZenkaiOh JuraGaon and TwoKaiOh are used again in future episodes to destroy a new Tojitendo monsters. I really miss both robots.

To be honest, I really bored when ZenKaijuOh are become overused.

I hope the Super Vroon formation appears

sounds good to me.