Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 82468)

The Gosei Morpher has been released. Raz has one, and so do a few others.

Originally Posted by Brainchild (Post 82635)

Looking purely at retail here, how many stores that carry Megaforce items could you not find a Megazord or a Zord set in before Christmas? I don't know about you, but I saw them practically everywhere I went. Third-party add-on companies don't dictate when, which or how many Hasbro toys get put on shelves by retailers. When I'm talking about affordable toys that cater to collectors, I'm talking about their entire Generations line, and the Universe lines before that, and so on and so forth. That whole CHUGURTSUTHULHU line, or whatever ridiculous acronym is flying around nowadays. The secondary market, which you're referring to with stuff like Bruticus, is a whole other beast. Bruticus wasn't expensive at all until the third-party add-ons were announced or release, one of the two. In fact, I remember Target being so overstocked that they had to clearance both him and Superion, down to something like $5. I know that's what I got mine for. At any rate, there's no fear that collectors will snatch up Power Rangers toys when Transformers toys, which are far more sought after by more collectors, end up shelfwarming. It's just the fact of the matter that collectors don't make up that much of the sales. They're a vocal minority, and as such, no real threat to stock.

And the reason Power Rangers toys don't have third party add-ons isn't that the figures are getting so good you can't possibly think of ways to improve them; it's that's there's not enough demand for someone to start producing add-ons for a reasonable price. That, and PR designs tend to adhere so strictly to on-show designs that collectors don't really see a need for original designs. I don't see anyone with their Megazords displayed in some wacky Zordbuilder combination, and with good reason. BoA is all about cutting whatever corners possible to go from the individual zord modes to the robot mode.

Originally Posted by xSkullheartx (Post 82687)

That's what I'm saying about Hasbro and third party companies.They don't effect them directly on how many they put out,but they do effect them.Like you said,Superion was 5 bucks till the add ons came out.

As for Power Rangers not being snatched up by collectors,I just came back from toys'r'us,which on the east coast is the best chance to find Power Rangers toys....Not a single Gosei Great to be found.Only thing they had was the header vehicles and the 4 inch Gosei/Megaforce Red.

Originally Posted by uchihabro77 (Post 82761)

I think we can say that gosei/megaforce red is a shelfwarmer already, my local walmart had one of the other four each and about 6 reds

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 82764)

I wouldn't make that assumption so quickly.

Originally Posted by raz (Post 82778)

Exactly. Right now, the target demographic has very little reason to care about Megaforce. If I were 11 again and Turbo was ending, and there were Astro Megaships on the shelf and Red Space Rangers, I wouldn't give a damn about them. I would notice new stuff was coming out, meaning old stuff was going to be leaving soon. I would be making sure I had what I wanted of the Turbo stuff. This is exactly what the kids are doing with Samurai. They are buying up the toys that they care about and are leaving soon.

Kids aren't blind. They see the Megaforce stuff. They just barely know what it is, and Samurai is the freshest thing in their mind. Zords were my biggest toys as a kid. I had very little interest in zords of seasons that either just released or hadn't aired yet.

It was the same thing for me as the MMPR S3 toys were coming out. All I knew were Thunder Zords and Tiger Zords. I didn't give a damn about a Ninja Megazord until I went to a movie theater.

Originally Posted by Blade Raider (Post 82485)

The ThunderCats toyline did not fail because it was out to early, it failed because Cartoon Network didn't even try to find a child audience for this. Cartoon Network, being the morons that they are, only consider a show sucessful if it sales a shit ton of toys. For that they need a strong child audience, not an adult audience.

For more evidence that the timing doesn't matter, look at Ninja Turtles. TMNT and ThunderCats have the same toy to show time frame (3 months, give or take). ThunderCats is still shelfwarming. Ninja Turtles is currently sold out almost everywhere I go. The difference is that Nickelodeon marketed the hell out of TMNT. Cartoon Network gave on ThunderCats before it even started.

Basically the bottomline is that Cartoon Network is why we can't have nice things.

Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 82802)

And where are you shopping to see Ninja Turtles is sold out everywhere? My Targets, TRUs, and Walmarts are littered with as much Turtles as they have WWF figures, and their stock has not needed to be replenished at all.