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Mmicb0b 11-29-2020 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Omnikaiser (Post 782062)
So Tassel and Avalon guy meet and appear in show together. I thought the Avalon guy might be the final boss somehow. Now I don't know. It looked as if both of them were Shinigamis somehow. The guys that appear when a swordman dies and they come search him.

Mei staying with Rintaro was cute. You can tell what she was thinking even if she didn't say anything (for once lol). When Rintaro was "yokatta yokatta" about Kento, the look she had was clearly "Think about yourself as well, be okay".

I liked how the henshin sounds for Espada and Calibur were so clean in this ep.

Slash is still the most entertaining to watch when fighting

Im not so emotional about Kento right now. I would find it nice if someone else could become Espada in his place, but I guess that's not so easy.
And as long as I don't see his body physically disappear I'm not even convinced he is dead. Maybe in a coma most probably.
Honestly the fact we didn't see him physically disappear more likely to stay dead

Sunred 11-29-2020 05:23 PM
So random wild speculation; What if Daichi/Calibur's current goal is to open the pillars so that he may open that portal and enter it to rescue Luna? Reason? Luna is his daughter.

Enchilada645 11-29-2020 05:39 PM
This was a nice episode, I'm curious as to how they villains are going to get the sixth pillar given Kenzan killing another Ogre ended up causing the book world to vanish.

Also I will continue to say that Rintaro is best boy because damn, this man's devotion to his friends and to protect the peace even while grievously injured is honestly commendable.

Also what a nice way to raise the stakes and basically put Touma's sights on Calibur, while Kento probably won't die, he'll be out of commission for a while. But that's just enough to motivate Touma into using his new upgrade for next week.

Tremere 11-29-2020 06:23 PM
The weakness to having so many Riders in a show is that if you don't manage it properly, everyone becomes a one-dimension caricature.

Buster is just an old guy too stubborn and tough to die
Kenzan is a battle hungry slasher-smile freak
Slash is a guy with a split personality

Blades is the gentleman swordsman
Espada is the kid with the chip on his shoulder

Then there's Saber who's the promise maker.

Ugh I'm trying hard to invest more into this series, but damn, its hard to make it good.
Gaim had multiple Riders, but it became really clear who the main Riders are and the other Riders who were along the story were introduced relatively early, had skin in the game and became Riders later with new belts that makes pretty good sense in the story.
Kabuto has a lot of Riders too, but each of them had a story, had a motivation and they kinda have their own theme.

Kurona 11-29-2020 06:44 PM
Gaim's riders were just as one-dimensional, especially as early as Episode 12.

zenstrive 11-29-2020 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tremere (Post 782111)
The weakness to having so many Riders in a show is that if you don't manage it properly, everyone becomes a one-dimension caricature.

Buster is just an old guy too stubborn and tough to die
Kenzan is a battle hungry slasher-smile freak
Slash is a guy with a split personality
Well, usually these three tropes get their own developments later in the season. Kinda like how the characters in US sitcoms are fully fleshed later in the later seasons.

Now the toys must sell before christmas trope is on full drives.

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Originally Posted by Sunred (Post 782103)
So random wild speculation; What if Daichi/Calibur's current goal is to open the pillars so that he may open that portal and enter it to rescue Luna? Reason? Luna is his daughter.
How about a plot twist: everyone is basically good guys but misunderstood. The three "villains" just want to remake their worlds who got corrupted by humans. Calibur join simply to open the portal to rescue Luna. Kenzan will join Calibur later in the series once he was told what actually happened.

And the final boss is Touma. Since he is the King that will destroy the worlds with his Rewrites.

ShiShiLeo 11-29-2020 08:11 PM
One dimensional characters are perfectly fine for secondary and definitely tertiary characters. This is not really their story. Some of the most endearing characters in fiction are one-dimensional or straight-forward.

In fact for an older character like Buster, I often find it forced for them to go through major changes that late in life.

That being said, there's still plenty of time for characters to develop more as it pertains to the plot.

gashatfreak 11-29-2020 08:16 PM
Oh I get it, the episode is called 'In That Promised Place' is because that's where Kento got Christmassed.

gashatfreak 11-29-2020 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 782075)
Well, let's see the riders with this trope.

Lazer
Grease
and now Espada.

Yep. It's a trope now.
Dang, first it was the 'purple riders are crazy' trope and now I guess they're adding 'yellow will die' to the mix.

Blade Fang 11-29-2020 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tremere (Post 782111)
The weakness to having so many Riders in a show is that if you don't manage it properly, everyone becomes a one-dimension caricature.

Buster is just an old guy too stubborn and tough to die
Kenzan is a battle hungry slasher-smile freak
Slash is a guy with a split personality

Blades is the gentleman swordsman
Espada is the kid with the chip on his shoulder

Then there's Saber who's the promise maker.

Ugh I'm trying hard to invest more into this series, but damn, its hard to make it good.
Gaim had multiple Riders, but it became really clear who the main Riders are and the other Riders who were along the story were introduced relatively early, had skin in the game and became Riders later with new belts that makes pretty good sense in the story.
Kabuto has a lot of Riders too, but each of them had a story, had a motivation and they kinda have their own theme.
Saber story are currently only in 12 episodes so its still have a lot potentials and rooms to develop characters....


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