Wait, so the connections end because the connections I am drawing from are due to limitations of footage they took?
They're still connections, which you said didn't exist. You just can't ignore the fact that there are countless connections to the original footage.

Yeah. Because the only parallels it draws with the sentai counterpart is stuff IN the footage. Since they aren't redesigning the suits, weapons and zords they will be the same in either version, they can't help that.

That is why Power Rangers either changes the context or the rules of the powers.

And even then, both series are at heart just big toy commercials with a serialized narrative.
It's one of the reasons Boukenger and Overdrive don't interest me (the other being that Overdrive sucks). Rest assured I will watch either if done for Let's Watch Wednesday's (let's stick to the Sentai, m'kay?), but neither on their own initially caught my eye. Hell, my main, and possibly only, gripe with the great DaiBouken is that an F-1, a dump truck and a bulldozer don't scream "treasure hunt."

Commence angry disagreements.

just like a race car scooper hybrid and dump truck dont scream rescue rigjt? and yet thats two parts of the rescue megazord

and what do a race car and a trailer have to do with Pirates? The jet and submarine I get, but why include the former with Gokai-Oh?

dairanger series - past dairangers passed powers to 1993 dairangers to future dairangers

True.
But Carranger was supposed to not be serious. Remember the giant pizza?

Gosei Sentai Dairanger no longer exists.

It exists, it just has a bad ending. Unless you're talking about what happened in Akibaranger, because that was resolved in Episode 3. Juuranger though...

because i was talkng purely from a design standpoint where suits and mech were made before story

Fixed, and oh no!

You didn't fix it. It's pronounced with a j.

How does the unofficial Sentai have any bearing on the official series?

Who thinks at one point Akibaranger will negate it's own existence somehow?

It doesn't. He just said that Dairanger didn't exist, and I drew to attention the only point in time where it could be seen as not existing.

because as far as im concerned it already has fallen from existence

At a very basic level, the biggest connection to SS and PR are the fight scenes, but when the show is almost completely based around those fight scenes, then more and more connectons start being made. And you're still incorrect, as I said before, things like the Magic theme in Magiranger/Mystic Force and the police theme in Dekaranger/SPD or the Adventure theme in Boukenger/Operation Overdrive are more then just fight scene, they are the entire themes of both series. Sure, they do things differently, but that is a very clear and obvious connection. Sometimes PR is more original like early Saban, but more often then not there are countless connections beyond just the fight scenes or the suits. I don't understand how you can't see that, I really don't and even then there's more connections, yes often due to the way they are using Sentai footage, but those connections breed more connections.
I'm not denying there are differences, but the fact is that there are just flat-out far, far more connections then just the fight scenes, which you stated earlier.

Why are you just listing random things that have zero relevance over and over again?

It can be spelt either way, there's no right or wrong, although you are correct that the pronunciation is closer to "J" then "Z". I read somewhere that it was originally going to be named as in "Jurassic Ranger" (Jyuranger) rather then how it ended up as "Beast Ranger" (Zyuranger), too.

1993 dairangers as grandparnets to 5 grandkids as 5 new dairangers
rember master kaku said lai ltai jewels passed to new dairangers in ep 50 [final]

Okay, but I don't even understand what you are arguing here any more? I was only saying that Power Rangers fans shouldn't feel bullied into watching Sentai, as long as you know that a lot of the fights aren't original footage then that is all you need to know, now you're going on some huge tangent by going after something very specific that I said? So what is your point?

That still provides no more fuel to your cause that Power Rangers fans should acknowledge Sentai, if anything you've only further proven that you don't need to know anything beyond the fact that the fights are from some Japanese TV show because even when Power Rangers adopts the same theme, it still does it in its own way.

Unless you're Samurai but I don't talk about that :lol

I was debating against something specific that you said because that specific thing was incorrect.

I just think its ignorant to ignore where something you enjoy is coming from, just my opinion. I think that the original footage deserves to be acknowledged because without it, our Power Rangers wouldn't exist, at all. It annoys me when people pretend that Power Rangers isn't derived from something else, just something that irks me, or ignore that the footage is often not made just for PR. You don't watch Avengers and not know its derived from the comic books, for example, because even if you like the films and not the comics, it should be acknowledged where its roots lie. As I said before, I don't think PR fans need watch Sentai, I only started watching Sentai after I was done with all the PR seasons, but things like the events I mentioned before are what annoys me, that's all I was saying.

Do you watch every inspiration for every film and TV show you enjoy? Do you bother to find out every inspiration? I'm guessing no. Is that ignorant? Well by your logic...

And as I've said time and time again, claiming that footage from Sentai was made by the NZ/American production companies would indeed by ignorance, otherwise though whether you know or not that it comes from elsehwere makes very little difference.

toei make sentai shows for saban used this footage for his power rangers series
lord zdd [zedd] and titaum ranger is amercian made by saban

Are you ignoring every time I say that I don't think people should have to watch one or the other? I must have said at least five times.

Locke is correct though. The fight scenese are pulled from every season and worked around the details from that. Details will always be different (theme, costumes, story) but those all revolve around the pulled fight scenes.

Also, Super Sentai is teh darkz and teh grittiez and so therefore it is better!

That's why you have Sentai Snobs. To justify that they enjoy watching a kid's show but it's okay, it has swearing and death in it! Bring it on!

LOL exactly this! When they demorph in Sentai they have a bit of jam on their lip SO FUCKING HARDCORE. Sentai is so totally mature and Power Rangers is for CHILDREN!

is not jontahn t 's falut and it evil soccer mom group falut - they pound mr saban about zyuranger , dairanger , kakuranger footage

that suddenly explains why gobusters was a bust. they dont want to admit the whole use of morphing was taken from pr....or that the whole concept of talking animal robots is so absurd and oh wait, precious super sentai did that, NOT power rangers

Actually, you're wrong. They only hounded Saban about Lord Zedd, who was a completely original character.

Try again!

Gobusters was a bust because it followed Gokaiger, and tried many new things. Had it not followed Gokaiger, I'm sure it would have done much better.

you KEEP bringing up this evil soccer mom group thread after thread after thread. what are you talking about? there isnt a soccer mom conspiracy beyond zedd.

Oh and characters DIE! That makes it DARK and EDGEY! Killing Senshi makes the characters and overall story SOOOOOO much better than Rangers!

It's like CHRISTOPHER NOLAN OR SOMETHING WOW DAMN. I was so stupid Sentai is so much more INTELLIGENT THAN PR.

it group of angary moms hate nasty footage in anime and etc and that why they call evil soccer moms

dont forget the talking cars who produce offspring. REMEMBER THEM

*wipes tear from eye*

I will never forget.

lmbo. oh this is great.

Tell me about it. I had an experience like that where I was working a storyline for a little project a while back and had two different versions of the final few chapters planned out. One where everyone except the main character dies and one where they are just separated and come together at the end to fight the ultimate villain... Guess which one I went with?

:lol

Yeah! RPM just had the NEAR EXTINCTION OF ALL HUMANITY VIA ROBOT TAKEOVER! How BABYISH!
No, TALKING ANIMAL CARS from another dimension fighting POLLUTION with the MAGIC OF FRIENDSHIP!
THAT'S MATURE STORYTELLING AIMED AT ADULTS!

I'm starting to want to watch the South Park episode "Sarcastaball."

Strange that people are complaining about Super Sentai fans being a bit douchy to PR fans by being a bit douchy to SS fans. Why is there some odd rivalry between the two fans, anyway?

What do the sentai elitists do with shows like RPM and in Space?

Because like, their whole argument that they use to battle their insecurities is that Sentai is for 'grown ups'. But Megaranger and Go-Onger seemed VERY much aimed at children, much more than the PR counterparts.

Do they just get really confused, realise their lives are a lie and burst into tears?

I just have a problem with elitists, in most public forums I can't have an opinion on a PR series without a sentai elitist screaming in my face about how much the 'original' is better.

It's like fuck off, I didn't ask and I don't care.

I'm just wondering what happened to Jonathan Tzachor in all of this. :eyebrow