Well, the plan was for the MUTO to find em, so in a sense it worked. :lol

But at least they were smart enough to avoid confronitng godzilla most of the time, avoided the cover-up as soon as it became a real danger.

But not at the time it did. They wanted to ship the nukes out in the ocean and then blow them up. What happened was that the MUTO attacked the train and ate most of the nukes and then the other one stole the last nuke off the ship and flew into the city with it :lol

If it hadnt been for Ford and Godzilla they would have blown up San Francisco with it :lol

Yeah, it could have worked better, but honestly, it's not like they ever had a real chance of winning, so at least they did their best. :lol

The ships escorting Godzilla was awesome.

I loved that scene. It really gave you the impression that Godzilla didnt care about all those little humans around him :lol

For the biggest part it fel like Godzilla wasn't respecting human life as much as he didn't even consider us living beings, he just was avoding giant pieces of metal on his way. :lol

We are nothing more like ants to those creatures. Thats something the movie played with really well and I hope we get more of in the sequel.

I don't know, I got the impression Godzilla has a grudging care for humans, like he takes extra effort not to harm them where possible. But that might be me. :lol

As the movie goes on, yes, specially before he takes his nap.

At the end you kinda got that vibe but I think all those people on Hawaii that drowned because of him would argue otherwise :lol

Woops! I totally forgot that was his fault!

It wasn't out of malice though. :lol

But yeah, even if he doesn't target humans, the collateral damage is very high.

No he doesnt kill them intentionally but he is still the cause of destruction. Like I said we are just like ants to them. We dont target ants and systematically kill them but when we do something and they get killed in the process we still dont really care :lol

Talk for yourself, I'm a complete psycho when it comes to pests. :lol

True, but don't the MUTOs actively kill us ants?

Do they? I just got the impression that they want the nuclear energy.

I saw it more as them not caring enough about humans to avoid collateral damage the way G does.

Huh, for some reason I thought they ate and fed on us. :lol

They could and it points it seemed like they were willing to, but the maount of calories derived from that would be pitiful. :lol

The way I see it, G is a focused force of destruction with noble purposes but necessary collateral damage, adn the M couple are more of the classic ravaging beasts, they saw all humans in their path as killable obstacles, but irrelevant in the long run.

Good theory, and one that the movie kind of mentions too. Godzilla being the self-correcting balance in nature and the MUTOs being the abominations.

I wonder if that dog made it to safety cause he was running for his life

How was he the most interesting character? He did very little. Sure, he was great in his scenes, but I don't see how he was all that interesting. Serizawa was much better.

I give this movie a 6.5/10. It's technically and visually a solid work. I enjoyed most of its parts, some were disappointing.

- Awesome fights.

- A coherent setting, not bad for a giant monster movie.

- The build up is too long, we should have a big fight when Godzilla catch up with the flying MUTO in Hawaii, not a TV-flash for a few seconds with a cut to the aftermaths. I mean everybody knows Godzilla, it's an iconic pop-culture figure, why trying so hard to keep it off screen just to preserve it for the climax ?
That was a problem there, it feels the story does not flow as it should. The movie is formatted like a disaster one, and my brain wanted too see a toku one with monsters beating the crap out of each other.

- Too much elements to enforce drama: lost kid in Hawaii, Serisawa's watch, etc. Anyway, I can't see the watch memento trick in any movie without thinking of Christopher Walken watch in Pulp Fiction.

- Emmerich 1998'Godzilla has a lot of bad ideas, that scene with the larvaes was too reminiscent of it. It was there just to allows the main character to have something to do and save the day (the reason everything explode is not very convincing by the way). Like launching the boat while half dead was not enough for KickAss.

- A nuke explode 5mn away from boat from the city, depending of the winds in the end all the survivors are irradiated and will die from a slow agony.

Serizawa's watch served its purpose though.

Godzilla was always meant to be a disaster film more than a movie about a giant monster.

It is really only people who have really never watched a Godzilla movie. Or the only ones that they have watched are Destroy All Monsters or Final Wars. They definitely have not watched the 1954 Masterpiece

Can you people please stop making BS assumptions like this?

The movie was good, but it was flawed. Trying to invalidate the people mentioning these flaws by saying "well they just didn't GET it" doesn't do anything. Especially when you're wrong, I've seen nearly every Godzilla movie made. That doesn't magically make this movie's flaws not flaws any more.

Again, the big problem with Godzilla's involvement in the film wasn't that he was missing for the majority of it, but the fact that he contributed very little to the overall plot. His biggest (nearly only) contribution was getting rid of the MUTOs. The 1954 movie was about Godzilla. Everything about the plot related back to him in some way.

Both were FAR more interesting characters then Ford and both were severely underutilised.

No one is saying it isn't flawed. We are just saying that a lot of the complaints are no different than every other Godzilla movie.

That changes absolutely nothing. A flaw is a flaw.

Not only that, every very good Godzilla movie has Godzilla be important to to the plot, even if he's not always there. He was not in this movie.

Saw the movie last night with the missus and going again to night with mates, so I'll probably do a more in depth review/commentary then.

For now, I really enjoyed it. It's well paced, I personally thought everyone acted pretty damn well and the finale is incredible. It's certainly not without it's flaws but I enjoyed it much more than (although it's really a completely different type of film) pacific rim.

As for the people having not watched Godzilla before argument... Yeah it doesn't matter. I've only watched the 1954 one and it is the only film I have ever been so bored watching I have fallen asleep. It's gonna be a marmite film, either love it or hate it. It lacks the action for most modern audiences and isn't quite all there for the others.

Finally got to watch this yesterday. Some of my thoughts have already been expressed so I'll just say I enjoyed it a lot.

Was it just me, or was Brian Cranston's story-line in the movie completely irrelevant to the overall monster plot? I mean, yeah we find out about the conspiracy but the MUTOs would have still come out/ hatched if he didn't search.

And he was important to the plot. Have you never seen Gamera Guardian of the Universe?

This is how I felt. Aside from being a mechanism to bring Ford to the MUTO, he really didn't contribute much. His old data was a minor contribution in tracking the creatures but I feel like that lost it's significance pretty quick.

I meant to bring that up too, it seemed almost completely irrelevant to the movie.

It wouldn't be irrelevant if he stayed alive. Remember,he was looking for the truth,but also revenge. If he lived,then he would have backed Serizawa by saying to let them fight because to him it would have been "Good,they could destroy each other!" and at some point have had Godzilla save people from these monsters.

You saw the scene where Ford and Godzilla came face to face? How much more impactful would it have been if Cranston was in Ford's place? How would you have felt if he just yelled at Godzilla and Godzilla just gave a look of "I'm sorry" and just turned to fight the MUTO's with a renewed spirit of "The King of Monsters,Protector of Humanity"

Also,I agree with everything said here. I loved the movie,but it had it's flaws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kMprK7w6U

Exactly. He never got proper closer IMHO. It seems he character was just push Ford into things (who had no motivation other than just wanting to go home). Things would have worked out much better if we had him and Serizawa as our protagonist. The only thing I give Fords character credit for is destroying the muto nest. I understand the nukes importance but at least he saw the bigger picture

Also, why does everybody with the last name Brody have to be in the military and be super masculine?

I must have missed when Gamera Guardian of the Universe became the epitome of movie quality that all other movies strive for. Seriously, making comparisons to other flawed movies does not give you a case.

And no, he really wasn't. As I've pointed out countless times, cut Godzilla from every single part except the final battle and the movie is exactly the same.

Which is nothing but a bad thing. They set up an interesting character with personal stakes to the plot, then quickly killed him after Act 1 and switched him with Ford.

Godzilla was a force of nature. What more do you want? Do you want him there in an hour long drawn out boring battle like the Bayformer movies have? There are flaws, which is why this movie is only an 8/10 and not a 10/10. However, it follows the same tropes of every other Godzilla movie, and I don't see how that is a problem. In fact, it was more true to Godzilla than most of the sequels.

BTW, my comment about Gamera GOTU was because it was the same play but with MUTO instead of the Gyaos.

No. I want him to be important to the plot, not necessarily on-screen all the time. The movie IS called "Godzilla".

And the misleading advertising REALLY didn't help things. They were intentionally advertising a Godzilla-centric movie but in actuality the monologue and half the scenes (including scenes in the trailer that swap the MUTO for Godzilla in CGI) implied ot be about Godzilla nearly all had nothing to do with him.

Seriously. The train bridge scene in the trailer actually has Godzilla being the one destroying it. That's awfully misleading.

Misleading advertising? So you basically want the movie trailer to be an abridged version of the movie that tells you everything going on with the movie? Like TASM2 and Transcendence have done?

And I have no idea what you are talking about the train bridge scene as every scene I saw in the trailers was in the movie.