I'll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6cpTjsHTNk

Two of the worst incarnations of Batman ever together, joy.

Wow. I didn't know that they finished filming and editing the movie. Please, enlighten me on how you were able to get a copy of the movie 10 months before its release date. -_-

I think you're here long enough to know that these kinds of discussions with our good Doctor are pointless. Just accept that he makes these comments without any proper reason, just because he feels like it, and that no good discussion comes out of this.

And it's not just that he hasn’t seen the movie yet, 60's Batman isn’t even close to being among the worst incarnations of Batman.

Man Adam West Batman was the shit! You're crazy if you don't look his good ol' cheesey goodness!

Amen!

Have they even released any footage of the actual Bat/Superman movie yet?

Thanks ZRV.

Wow. Did you travel to the future to see the movie already? Was Lex great?

I agree with y'all whole heartedly. Adam West was good looking and awesome in his day! Hell, he's still hilarious on Family Guy.

To me Frank Miller's is the worst.

THANK YOU.

I absolutely detested the Dark Knight Returns & Strikes Again. Frank Millers bullshit grim dark gritty Batman is the only thing I ever here people talk about in my industry. I'm a comic shop manager, have been for about 8 years. Sadly I feel like I'm the only person who can't stand Miller half the time as I get weird looks and sneers when I say that stupid title isn't on my "ZOMG Top 10 Batman books evar!" list. His ridiculous Batman and his disdain & animosity towards Superman as a symbol kill me. Which sadly those elements look to have been carried over to this new film.

I really like the Dark Knight Returns, but outside of that one story Miller's Batman doesn't work at all unless it's being viewed as some over the top parody.

Which is how I found Allstar Batman and Robin to be amazing :lol

5 words All Star Batman & Robin.

the best All Star comic will always be Superman.
if you want to see why people can appreciate Superman,
go read that comic.

I freely admit to owning All-Star Batman & Robin in Absolute Slipcover Hardcover edition :lol I absolutely loved that over the top ridiculousness of that book. Even though I Know Miller never meant it as parody that's certainly the way it reads making it very very enjoyable. Authorial intent be damned!

I am willing to admit also that I find Year One to be immensely enjoyable for what it is. When you start adding layers of meaningless brutality & darkness on top of things I get miffed. But Year One struck a very good balance between some of Miller's more dark tendencies but with a silver lining of hope and heroism that I can still appreciate.

yeah, Year One is probably one of Miller's better works, to say the least.

I highly enjoy it, and it's nice to see Gotham as more of a darker place than normal. my only problem with it really is Celina's design. I feel it's too much in the opposite direction of the "pretty cat lover" and just goes a bit too far on the butch side.

I like the animated movie adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns, but I never understood what the big deal about it was. I read it in 2005 and found it to be lackluster, especially when it is the comic I had heard so many people talk about for years.

And you guys are right, I have not seen the movie yet, so I can not know for sure. However, based on that trailer, Zack knows very little about Batman. In fact, I think he mixed up Batman and Hitler.

I really really hope am I wrong. However, at this point, unless it has an 80% of better on RT, I will not be seeing it.

uuuuh.... I really think saying someone mistook another character for Hitler is a bit of an extreme...

Did I miss the bit in the teaser when Batman invaded Poland? Or had Arkham converted into a death camp?

This is a better Superman in 18 seconds than Zach Snyder could make in his entire career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtiinR6ni8

YEAH! Superman vs the Elite is the best!

remember when he took a supernova to the face?

Isn't that the book with Wonderbitch in it?*who Supes rapes bravo for ruining the Trinity btw Frankie.-_-*

NO! that's not in the comic!

Frank Miller didn't work on All Star Superman! DX

Heaven help us if he did. *shudders*

like, All-Star Superman is basically just a big love letter to Superman done right.
remember that part with the suicidal girl in the comic?
I still tear up at that scene.
it's just a really powerful scene with it's angles and use of subtlety.

In this trailer, Batman literally only just stared at his costume, drove the Batmobile (and/or the Batwing), stood up menacingly, stood on a building with his cape blowing in the wind, and threatened Superman. That is it.

I can understand your doubts about the film, but the claims you're making are outlandish and unreasonable.

All-Star Superman might actually be my favorite piece of literature period.

So it was All Star Batman then?

And inspired me to write a multi-page rant that was published on Wattpad.

... Did you say "yells at clouds"?

yeah... miller should have retired long before...
you don't know pain unless you say down and watched The Spirit in a theatre..
the whole thing...
the WHOLE thing.....

People who think Supes has it bad should try being a Wondy fan.:lol

For real Wonderbitch is almost as bad as Straw feminist Power Girl.

tbh, Palmiotti/Gray/Conner's PowerGirl will always be the best iteration of PowerGirl.

Yep. Here's hoping Harley/PG isn't crap.

who is writing it?

Justin Gray, Jimmy Palmiotti and Amanda Conner.


...And it's a mini Arceus damn it.:(

oh trust me, they won't fail. they are all great.

wait... ARCEUS?!
we got POKEGOD in this comic?!

No I'm just sad it's a mini.