My point was that Flabebe/Floette/Florges is very fragile. She was always the first to get KO'd on my team, and adding a 4x weakness to poison would've made that worse.

and true.

Oh, I got your point, sorry if I came across as diverting it a bit.

My mind was so convinced it was part grass, i always spam fire attacks at it in hopes it does super effective but it never does.

I almost had a near Eevee sweep in Pokemon Showdown but a damn Crustle messed that up for me. Thank goodness I had an Umbreon with an attack.

So it wasn't just me...

On the topic of them, does anyone know the exact time you need in the Roserade Secret Training to get Shiny Stones? I want a Florges of every color and just can't seem to get any stones.

I hear it's a bit random as long as you meet the target time.

Does anyone here have access to the following Vivillon patterns? These are the last 7 I need and they're proving harder to get than the others XD

Savannah
Sun
Icy Snow
Sandstorm
Monsoon
Jungle
Archipelago

You're going to need a real international group of friends for those. :lol

I found out that if you receive a foreign Scatterbug in a trade, it'll evolve into the Vivillon native to it's Original Trainer's region. So you could always try that XD

One is a Canadian one and another a Mexican one, I had some hope even if it was very little :p

Yeah they do, I already spend hours on GTS looking for them and once I actually finish the game I'll probably spend that much time on Wonder Trade trying for them too :lol

I'm not hopeful unless I either find someone or get really lucky though, the Elegant pattern is EVERYWHERE it seems.