Yeah. G Gundam was made in '94, so it's dated animation really does bring it down some. It certainly wouldn't hurt to get a HD re-release.

I guess it's just lucky I'm watching Tekkaman alongside it, as that came out around the same time. It's only when I jump over to Penguindrum that I realise just how dated both shows look.

Penguindrum 3.

So the show is still largely directionless, I mean I know there is the quest for the Pengiundrum but no one knows what the hell that is and so the last two episodes have just involved our heroes following a creep around some Japanese city. I would say this show was flat out boring if it wasn't for the comedy penguins.

And before someone says it, I recognise that at its core, it's just a very human story about human things but I dunno, I find it hard to care about human stories that are animated. I know that makes no sense, but I dunno, I just find these stories more easily engageble when realised in the real world, even if it's really just an artificial set in reality.

Plus this show is still really weird. It's almost like a horror movie but played as a goofball comedy and that somehow only makes it more disturbing. Also what the hell is with Japan and curry? And that diary, is this Mirai Nikki?

Watched Bakemonogatari episode 3.

I remember why I never got past this episode now, its just so boring in comparison to the first two.

Plus are there parks really that cool in Japan?

I'd rather Wing get an HD re-release first. Of course, Gundam is pretty much dead in the US with Bandai gone as no one is going to bother licensing the series and stuff anymore.

Nah. I know Wing had the massive following in the US back in 2000, but I couldn't stay awake during an episode to save my life. I'd much prefer G to Wing.
Also, G came first, anyway.

While there's nothing particulary special about episode 3, my favorite season 1 arc is easily Mayoi Snail, so maybe the other 2 episodes will change your mind.

Or not, who knows :p

Gundam would see a re-emergence if they would just change the story a little. Look, I love Gundams. But every story since Mobile Suit Gundam, except for things like 8th MS Team and G Gundam, follow that exact story. The Evil Orginization in Space, the Main Anti-Hero in Red with a Mask. And on and on and on again. SEED Destiny even brought back ZAKU's!

If they came back to the United States with an original story, with original characters, it would sell. Or if they even made an updated Mobile Suit Gundam with updated character and mech designs. I'd watch and buy all of that. All of it.

Ironically, G Gundam is often portrayed as the "Black sheep" of the Gundam franchise for being the first series to break away from both the Universal Century story line and by altering the "Gundam story device."
Granted, I only know this from Wing and UC fans who absolutely loathed G, and not the fanbase as a whole...

Which is sad. And alot of the reason why Gundam dissappeared in America. G Gundam is an excellent series, and those Gundam designs were wonderfully weird. Especially the Four Grand Kings.

But it's the only way they're going to lure in people who aren't die hard "OMG HEERO IS SO HOT" Wing Fans and begin selling again in America. Then MMPR is selling so well again maybe they don't really want to.

America wanted Gundam Wing 2. Japan had moved on to Turn A. It's unfortunate.
Especially if you were never big into Wing, while the rest of your country couldn't get enough of it.

I wish we would've got the chance to have Turn-A Gundam. The White Doll is a beautiful design, mustache and all, and Turn-X isn't bad either. Plus the story looks like something wonderful.

And I can't say no to a cross-dressing trap.

I always liked that mustache. It was wonderfully silly.

And who can? :p

That was what bothered me about it really. Its the Mayoi arc, yet she isn't really in it until the last 5 or so minutes. The rest of it is just Hitagi talking non-stop. I'm looking forward to it actually getting to Mayoi's story.

Yeah. All of the Monogatari series have that problem, where the character of the previous arc takes the spotlight in the first episodes of the new arc.

It's even worse in Nisemono, it took them like 5 episodes to actually use Karen in her own arc.

That said Hitagi's role gets kinda diminished in the next episode. So there's that.

See, one of the main things I like about WIng is that the pilots were using the Gundams to their full potential as the ultimate machines of destruction. Imagine if Amuro or Kira had actually done that with their Gundams? I kept waiting for Amuro to just go, "You know what, **** you all" and just blow up White Base or something.

People without souls :lol

It got kinda ridiculous though, specially with Wing/Wing Zero, I mean the Leos blow up even if they aren't hit by the beam of the buster rifle!

The way Wing, HeavyArms, Wing Zero, both Deathscythes, and both of WuFei's Altrons were Overpowered.. it kinda made poor Sandrock look pathetic in comparisn.

Yeah, poor Sandrock, you can go play with your shovels somewhere else.

The writers I think knew this to, since he had to bring his own Corp of backup Mobile Suits.

They also gave him a tiny machine gun :p

G Gundam is not the black sleep because it didn't have those things. It had a ton of Gundam tropes in it. Anti-Hero in mask = Schwarz Bruder, Evil Orginization in Space = Neo Japan, Newtype = Super Mode, etc, etc. What makes it t5he black sleep is the genre change. Gundam is traditionally a space opera war drama while G was a opponent of the day tournament fighter. 8th MS Team is still very much a space opera war drama even if only one episode is in space.

There's already been two attempts at this. One was called SD Gundam Force and it sucked. The other is a doozy...See what I did there? :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8um1N78AhY

Yes, you just saw that. Wheelchair bound GunTank was almost a thing that happened. Fear what America can do to Gundam.

Anyways, the problem is Gundam is aimed at teens. In the US, that age group is still told to stop playing with toys. Gundam is reliant on toy sells, sadly. So if it's no marketable to the audience intended, they're more likely to change to an audience that will buy their toys, thus the US gets SD Gundam Force.

AKA Gundam 00 season 1. It had the problem of airing on late night Sci-Fi with little to no advertisement.






Meanwhile, I just finished Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040. It's okay. Still wondering why it's called Bubblegum Crisis and not Knight Sabers. Seriously, what's bubblegum have to do with anything? That's all I got to say. An okay anime from the late 90's.

Rocket powered wheelchair... Rocket powered wheelchair...

Any complaint UC fans had against the AU series is automatically null.

US didn't even get all of SD Gundam Force. We got like, 1 season, then end.

Same with Zoids Fuzors. Seems to be a thing with American funded animes made to sell toys.

I liked SD Gundam Force.. What was wrong with SD?

And yea, I know, you;ve shown that before. But I can hope we can do better now. All evidence to the contrary.

We did get a lot of Gundam aired here in the US after Wing aired. We got G Gundam, 8th MS Team, 0080, 0083, Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam Seed, Gundam 00, etc. It was a good run. It would be nice if some of the kids networks reaired a few of those to get the kids into Gundam. Maybe one day other series will be brought over but I can understand why they aren't buying a lot of the new stuff. I would like to see more Macross come over first.

There is a difference between dated and classic. It's a fine line but a lot old anime with that style were done so well that they hold up today. Sure, they are 4:3 instead of 16:9 but a lot of anime from the 90's hold up better than any live action stuff in terms of the look.



But that isn't what Gundam is about in those universes. It isn't like Gundam pilots don't max out their suits in every show. They aren't super robot shows as they are just meant to be the latest military tech but still fall within the same guidelines as the other suits they fight.

Watched episode six of G-GUNDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM now I'm in from my first shift.

So now the story really IS moving. But eh, I'm getting pretty tired of these ridiculously elaborate plans for fairly simple goals, all it does is bog down the tension and create a false sense of mystery because they clearly don't have enough faith in the show to think they can intrigue you any other way, it's Black all over again.

And as ever the action is epic, the Gundam designs are ugly. I think the Dragon Gundam is the only design I've really liked in this show so far. I also laughed hard at Domon going super saiyan.

I don't even understand, Devil Gundam? Why? When they kept saying that I expected some bright red Gundam with like a pitchfork, a big cape and massive horns. No wonder they changed the name in the dub. All the other names have fit fine though.

Plus, I know this show is ridiculous anyway, but it seemed almost too far for me to have the main villain Gundam have the same powers as Majin Buu. Especially as these sorts of devices usually end up having the writers write themselves into a corner.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, FUnimation is on fire!!!

Have you guys seen all of the Bandai license rescues they have done? They got things like a BD release for Cowboy Bebop, then there is Code Geass, Escaflowne, Outlaw Star, My-Hime, and several others series.

Oh, and Sentai Filmworks have also saved other series like Big O.

Toonami totally refuled my love for One Piece, something that hasn't surfaced since around 2007 or 08.

Here is the list:

At the Sunrise panel at Otakon, some Bandai Entertainment license rescues were announced. Surprisingly, Sentai Filmworks license rescued The Big O.

UPDATE: FUNimation announced that they have also license rescued Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Escaflowne, and the My-HiME shows.

The license rescues include:



FUNimation
- Tales of the Abyss
- Witch Hunter Robin
- Banner of the Stars (seasons 1 & 2)
- Angel Links
- Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion (seasons 1 & 2 with Akito the Exiled)
- Crest of the Stars
- Passage of the Stars - Birth
- Cowboy Bebop
- Outlaw Star
- The Vision of Escaflowne (with the movie)
- My-HiME
- My-Otome
- My-Otome 0~S.ifr~
- My-Otome Zwei



Sentai Filmworks
- s-CRY-ed
- Argento Soma
- Betterman
- Brain Powered
- Infinite Ryvius
- Overman King Gainer
- Sacred Seven
- The Big O (seasons 1 & 2)
- Zegapain
- Z-Mind
- The Girl Who Leapt Through Space
- Kurokami: The Animation

It's great to see a bunch of Bandai Entertainment animes go to new companies that aren't Aniplex USA. I look forward to seeing the "of the Stars" shows when they end up on Netflix (Like most of the others on the FUNimation list). I'm not familiar with Sentai Filmworks, how's their DVD pricing? I'd be interested in some well priced DVDs of s-CRY-ed and Betterman.

The question remains, unless I missed some news (which is likely, I don't keep up with anime news much), what about Gundam?! Gundam can be a success again if a company that cared got ahold of it. Age or Build Fighters needs to be airing alongside DBZ or Yugi-Oh. It can have a toy line and everything. Then for the adult fans (aside from uncut DVDs of whatever aired), get one of the old shows that was either unaired or never released stateside and put it on Toonami. I don't want to see the Gundam license go the way of Macross.

Strange that we ended up getting those rescued before you guys in the US. The first Cowboy Bebop bluray volume came out here the other week, its utterly beautiful.

...*thinks about Cowboy Bebop on Bluray*...damn you Zeo, I didn't know I wanted that until you mentioned it! :p

Episode 4 of Penguindrum was really amusing, if totally pointless.

Everyone keeps going on about this shows deep well of depth but it's hard to get to that when the show is constructed like an episode of Family Guy. Maybe it'd be easier if I cared about Ringo, which I think I am meant to do, but they've made her so unlikeable I don't pity her, I just find her pathetic.

The ending, as usual though, had a great hook though that made me want to keep watching.

You're 4 episodes in dude, you're not supposed to like Ringo yet :lol right now she just comes across as an extremely weird and pathetic character.

One of the main things I love about Penguindrum is that nothing is really as it seems in the first episodes. Everything changes and while it's a show that admittedly you have to stick all the way through to get the full effect, the pay off is completely worth it.

Is it bad that I haven't seen Bebop yet?

Which is shocking considering it's only been the horrible Davy Back Fight arc. I'm so glad that finished last night.

didn't we all so get Bebop as a complete serise box set as well realsed just last month