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GrandComplete 01-25-2023 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by weedle013ZiO (Post 844675)
Me: glares at King-Ohger
What does KingOhger have to do with anything?

Mesnick 01-25-2023 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EpsilonX (Post 844655)
Anyways, the last two Riders I watched were Geats and Ex-Aid. I kind of want my next one to be less of an ensemble vs show and more of a traditional Rider series. Lately Kabuto has piqued my interest, but I've also been meaning to watch Den-O for ages and won a copy of the Zero-One blu-ray. What do you all think?
It seems to me that if, with the current merch load, Toei decide to make a show with one hero, he will receive three new forms every episode.

Mesnick 01-25-2023 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DH21965 (Post 844672)
Try for more original ideas than ones already in use. The original ideas you come up are more complex than this (I have seen the many threads) one.
Pokemon/Digimon was an old idea that started in 1967?s Ultraseven, really, with his Pocket Monsters Windom,Agira,& Miclas.Not being a downer, it?s good to have creative ideas *always*, and I wouldn?t have gotten in the funnybook(what my Grandma called Comics)industry without taking A LOT of constructive criticism until I got it ?right? and understood the process,but I have to tell this to folks at conventions when I?m doing portfolio/script reviews.

Someone with your amount of imagination shouldn?t be discouraged or get flustered because no one is getting your ideas, writing (to me,because of the amount of research) is the hardest part of Art there is, that?s why it gets so much attention.
There is nothing wrong with old ideas as long as they work. Not just because there are remakes. Moreover, going back to the riders, I believe that returning to the roots of the franchise will help solve the problem with the bike. Namely, you need to make the rider a motorcycle racer.
I'll explain now. The bike will constantly stand in the background as part of the scenery. When the rider runs to stop the monster, he will be asked:
"Why don't you ride a motorcycle?",
to which he will answer:
"I cannot risk it before the competition."
Well, a couple of races on a special track, I think Toei is quite affordable.
Speaking of something completely new: a shinigami rider? Ghost spit on the mystic, so there are clearly a lot of elements untouched by the franchise.

DH21965 01-25-2023 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 844679)
There is nothing wrong with old ideas as long as they work. Not just because there are remakes. Moreover, going back to the riders, I believe that returning to the roots of the franchise will help solve the problem with the bike. Namely, you need to make the rider a motorcycle racer.
I'll explain now. The bike will constantly stand in the background as part of the scenery. When the rider runs to stop the monster, he will be asked:
"Why don't you ride a motorcycle?",
to which he will answer:
"I cannot risk it before the competition."
Well, a couple of races on a special track, I think Toei is quite affordable.
Speaking of something completely new: a shinigami rider? Ghost spit on the mystic, so there are clearly a lot of elements untouched by the franchise.
This is a credible scenario for Toei, I think. Would get around the loss of Bikes in KR because of Japanese restrictions

GrandComplete 01-25-2023 12:33 PM
Titans Comic adresses the Kuuga Manga translation & it whole load of nothing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnVYBUYX...png&name=large

https://twitter.com/ComicsTitan/stat...aU_IFM97A&s=19

EpsilonX 01-25-2023 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandComplete (Post 844681)
Titans Comic adresses the Kuuga Manga translation & it whole load of nothing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnVYBUYX...png&name=large

https://twitter.com/ComicsTitan/stat...aU_IFM97A&s=19
Is that the case? Are the books better-translated than the advance images? Or are they wrong and either misunderstanding the complains (benefit of the doubt) or just ignoring them (and gaslighting people in the process)?

If it's the latter, people should keep complaining.

henshinzero 01-25-2023 03:40 PM
Since Skyrider being an aerial rider, what if Reiwa made a rider series based off of birds, aerial creatures & jet pilots?

Their Rider Machines should turn into jets.

Just going by Jetman, Silverhawks, Dragon Flyz, Metajets & Storm Hawks. With a touch of Gundam Wing.

Kurona 01-25-2023 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EpsilonX (Post 844683)
Is that the case? Are the books better-translated than the advance images? Or are they wrong and either misunderstanding the complains (benefit of the doubt) or just ignoring them (and gaslighting people in the process)?

If it's the latter, people should keep complaining.
Basically, the books have translation that is not just very poor but is almost certainly machine-translated; and there's cases of bad formatting (such as Ichijo's name having the "I" on one line and "chijo" on the second) as well as images going off the page. This is in contrast to the initial preview images showing a far superior translation. So it's the opposite of what you said: the advance images are better, much better than the actual finished product.

What the statement does here to address that is just saying "well, they had good translators" -- which is true, but doesn't really have anything to do with anything when the finished product is ultimately this low-quality, and does nothing to assure customers that the future releases will be any better

wentwood 01-25-2023 04:31 PM
The Shout Factory feed is active on Amazon Prime with Download option included.

3 bucks a month so keeping it.

Game on for the Rider line. I had seen episode 1 on the Toku feed.

EpsilonX 01-25-2023 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurona (Post 844696)
Basically, the books have translation that is not just very poor but is almost certainly machine-translated; and there's cases of bad formatting (such as Ichijo's name having the "I" on one line and "chijo" on the second) as well as images going off the page. This is in contrast to the initial preview images showing a far superior translation. So it's the opposite of what you said: the advance images are better, much better than the actual finished product.

What the statement does here to address that is just saying "well, they had good translators" -- which is true, but doesn't really have anything to do with anything when the finished product is ultimately this low-quality, and does nothing to assure customers that the future releases will be any better
So either they're really dense and don't understand any of the complaints, or they're actively choosing to ignore what people are saying. Neither are great, but I'd rather they were dense. The latter is insulting.

henshinzero 01-25-2023 05:10 PM
And another things for a future Reiwa rider series!

How would a cooking/chef Rider series be implemented next? Agito's a cook, Kabuto's a cook & Bravo's a p?tissier.

I see Bravo & Agito as guest judges for riders' culinary abilities & battles.

Switchblade 01-25-2023 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 844694)
Since Skyrider being an aerial rider, what if Reiwa made a rider series based off of birds, aerial creatures & jet pilots?

Their Rider Machines should turn into jets.

Just going by Jetman, Silverhawks, Dragon Flyz, Metajets & Storm Hawks. With a touch of Gundam Wing.
I feel like that would be asking for a commitment to vehicles that just is not how Toei and Bandai view Kamen Rider these days.

Mesnick 01-25-2023 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Switchblade (Post 844708)
I feel like that would be asking for a commitment to vehicles that just is not how Toei and Bandai view Kamen Rider these days.
I would say that riders have always been about that. Actually, maybe that's why they came up with Metal Hero.

henshinzero 01-26-2023 11:29 AM
I feel magic themed riders aren’t doing so well, due to logic. Why can’t they be done right?

What kind of magic themed rider series would you all create in the future after Kuuga, Agito, Hibiki, Kiva, OOO, Wizard, Ghost & Saber?

Mesnick 01-26-2023 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 844747)
What kind of magic themed rider series would you all create in the future after Kuuga, Agito, Kiva, OOO, Wizard, Ghost & Saber?
Kamen Rider Shinigami. But in general, it seems to me that the division into "magical" and "scientific" riders is very conditional. That is, who is Blade and Gaim?
P.S. By the way, you forgot about Hibiki.

Mesnick 01-26-2023 12:51 PM
At leisure, I was thinking about how to make a show with one rider in the current conditions and this is what I came up with. There should be only one belt in the show, which will pass from one character to another. But, unlike Faiz, each of them will have their own unique gimmick, giving him a different appearance and abilities. But since two people cannot use the same belt at the same time (except perhaps in an epic movie), these will be precisely different forms, and not different riders. But then you have to sacrifice fights between riders, which obviously will not be to the taste of the audience.

DH21965 01-26-2023 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 844749)
At leisure, I was thinking about how to make a show with one rider in the current conditions and this is what I came up with. There should be only one belt in the show, which will pass from one character to another. But, unlike Faiz, each of them will have their own unique gimmick, giving him a different appearance and abilities. But since two people cannot use the same belt at the same time (except perhaps in an epic movie), these will be precisely different forms, and not different riders. But then you have to sacrifice fights between riders, which obviously will not be to the taste of the audience.

Very interesting

Mesnick 01-26-2023 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DH21965 (Post 844750)
Very interesting
Thanks.

wentwood 01-26-2023 04:19 PM
I'll be watching a lot of Rider show stuff after I finish
Growl Ranger - Time Ranger on the feed.

As for Rider I'm watching the 1st 2 series.
The first Rider will take me till almost June
to finish and September to finish V3.

I won't get to Amazon till late October.

I still have 96 episodes of the first Rider to finish.

Longest Toku series I've watched start to finish
with the MMPR III Source show at 53 episodes
for 2nd

henshinzero 01-26-2023 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 844748)
Kamen Rider Shinigami. But in general, it seems to me that the division into "magical" and "scientific" riders is very conditional. That is, who is Blade and Gaim?
P.S. By the way, you forgot about Hibiki.
Fixed it.

And we REALLY need more magic-themed riders.

Switchblade 01-26-2023 05:00 PM
Open your eyes, it's the 20th anniversary of Faiz.

henshinzero 01-26-2023 05:08 PM
Does everyone find it weird how Kento Hada's (Inui Takumi's) voice sounds deeper?

Why is that? Born naturally or something changed as he aged?

ShiShiLeo 01-26-2023 05:46 PM
Your voice naturally gets deeper over age. He was like 18 when he did 555

DH21965 01-26-2023 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ShiShiLeo (Post 844771)
Your voice naturally gets deeper over age. He was like 18 when he did 555
You are too kind

GoldenXtreme 01-26-2023 07:06 PM
Faiz is still such a unique experience, for better or for worse. I just wish it had better subtitles. 20th anniversary would be a good time to get that I think. Shout Factory? Discotek? Anyone? C'mon, I'm desperate.

EpsilonX 01-26-2023 08:05 PM
I've always been too scared to watch Faiz. If there's anything that I hate, it's people who don't give you a chance to speak. I'll be angry the entire series.

I do like the suit, though...

GuardianAngel87 01-26-2023 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EpsilonX (Post 844780)
I've always been too scared to watch Faiz. If there's anything that I hate, it's people who don't give you a chance to speak. I'll be angry the entire series.

I do like the suit, though...
Yeah, the show itself is pretty much a mixed bag for me.

Mesnick 01-27-2023 12:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuardianAngel87 (Post 844785)
Yeah, the show itself is pretty much a mixed bag for me.
This is the strength of the this show.

henshinzero 01-27-2023 11:58 AM
I've been thinking about the next magic-themed rider series. Since Build's science where three nations in Japan are at war due to Pandora's Box, why not the next story involve where technology becomes obsolete and the age of magic takes over?

An ancient artifact like the Arcle can be found by the protagonist before the events. And technology can be powered up through magic.

Getting inspiration from Visionaries: Knights of the Magical Light.

So hard to find good magic animes to be inspired too. Except Dr. Stone could go magic instead of science.

wentwood 01-28-2023 03:45 PM
I'm switching in for Rider shows once I finish Time Ranger on Shout Factory
TV.

Some will be on Shout Factory with others on You
Tube at a later date.

Enchilada645 01-29-2023 09:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLlRRelBuY8

So, new trailer for Outsiders dropped. Looks like these are going to be sporadically placed throughout the year instead of continuous.

It also makes me wonder if Juuga vs. Olteca is going to be a part of this given we've yet to hear anything on that yet aside from seeing Olteca's new stamp already.

EpsilonX 02-01-2023 04:54 PM
The only reason I care is because I'll be in Japan next month (otherwise why would the Japanese theatrical release date matter to me?), but man I'm going crazy waiting for more info on the Shin Kamen Rider release date...

MrWilliamGraham 02-01-2023 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EpsilonX (Post 845120)
The only reason I care is because I'll be in Japan next month (otherwise why would the Japanese theatrical release date matter to me?), but man I'm going crazy waiting for more info on the Shin Kamen Rider release date...
Me too ! Worst case it comes out on the final day of the month, which just so happens to be a Friday ...

EpsilonX 02-02-2023 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWilliamGraham (Post 845131)
Me too ! Worst case it comes out on the final day of the month, which just so happens to be a Friday ...
I leave the 23rd, so I would cry.

Per chance, will you be in Japan again around that time?

wentwood 02-02-2023 11:19 PM
With Jet Man locked in and out of the way what Rider shows are DVD?

May get them in March.

I caught up the Ranger sets. (Shout Factory releases)

Kurona 02-02-2023 11:24 PM
V3 is on DVD.
BLACK, Kuuga, Ryuki and Zero-One are on Blu-Ray.
BLACK RX has been newly announced to also be coming to Blu-Ray later this year.
Boxsets of Shin, ZO and J; as well as The First and The Next are to be coming later this year as well, most likely on Blu-Ray.

MrWilliamGraham 02-02-2023 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EpsilonX (Post 845147)
I leave the 23rd, so I would cry.

Per chance, will you be in Japan again around that time?
I actually do want to try and go back for a couple days just to watch it haha I would probably go to Nagoya though, I feel a bit more comfortable navigating there than Tokyo

EpsilonX 02-03-2023 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWilliamGraham (Post 845232)
I actually do want to try and go back for a couple days just to watch it haha I would probably go to Nagoya though, I feel a bit more comfortable navigating there than Tokyo
Boooo!

Actually Nagoya's pretty cool. Some may say it's boring and lacks tourist appeal, but it's a good snapshot of what normal life is like in Japan.

henshinzero 02-03-2023 12:12 PM
Are we gonna see the last Showa stamps in Revice?

Only these remain!
  • Nigo: Bear?
  • Riderman: ?
  • Stronger: Rafflesia?
  • Skyrider: ?
  • Super-1: Crane?
  • Black RX: Whale?
  • Shin: ?
  • J: Jaguar?

Sucks Chameleon & Planarian are only Mach & Chaser! But what does that make Sabertiger?

Mesnick 02-03-2023 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 845264)
Are we gonna see the last Showa stamps in Revice?

Only these remain!
  • Nigo: Bear?
  • Riderman: ?
  • Stronger: Rafflesia?
  • Skyrider: ?
  • Super-1: Crane?
  • Black RX: Whale?
  • Shin: ?
  • J: Jaguar?

Sucks Chameleon & Planarian are only Mach & Chaser! But what does that make Sabertiger?
In my opinion, Revice was very irresponsible with their legacy stamps. However, this show, in principle, gained a lot of different topics, as a result, more or less investing only in the family one.


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