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Talisman 05-16-2014 12:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kickback (Post 363597)
So.

With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed?

I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me.

My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her.

But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai.

Just speculation.
I'm wondering if this somehow ties into Mai's past. She wanted to be a miko for the tree shrine, which was built around a tree that sprouted from a seed from Helheim, which is currently housed in Yggdrasil headquarters after they took over the area.

xSkullheartx 05-16-2014 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kickback (Post 363597)
So.

With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed?

I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me.

My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her.

But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai.

Just speculation.
But the problem is that the Main Overlord didn't know what the belt was,but the one Overlord with the spear seems to have remembered it somewhat when he first picked it up.

KyoryuGreen 05-16-2014 04:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kickback (Post 363597)
So.

With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed?

I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me.

My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her.

But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai.

Just speculation.

Well that might happen because well Kouta is the main character and this is Kamen Rider but this is still Gen Urobuchi so anything can happen. I still think Alt. Mai might still be from the Future and be something kind of like Homura from Madoka.

I mean unless the Forbidden Fruit gives Gaim his Kiwami Arms form which might happen.

TokuChris 05-19-2014 01:44 PM
Well, so much for my theories.

Previews for 31 show DJ Sagura standing with the Overlord leader. And they show the Kiwami Lockseed in his hand.

Oh well.

OathToOblivion 05-19-2014 01:49 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PGk4Xd46Am...9_n+-+Copy.jpg
So I was looking at this again...and is it just me, or is that Gaim's face on his chest like #1 Arms?

Suzu 05-20-2014 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OathToOblivion (Post 365081)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PGk4Xd46Am...9_n+-+Copy.jpg
So I was looking at this again...and is it just me, or is that Gaim's face on his chest like #1 Arms?
It's to blurry to make out, but I don't think so- it would be rather cheesy for a final form, wouldn't it?

FormerTitanium 05-20-2014 04:22 PM
So much white is going on in Kiwami Arms... Pretty big change compared to Jinba and Kachidoki forms.

losondro 05-22-2014 03:24 AM

SideswipePrime 05-22-2014 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by losondro (Post 366160)
We did...OOO posted a picture of that a while back.

Guyver Spawn 05-22-2014 02:52 PM
So I take it Kiva and Decade are apart of the W-Gaim universe now?

Powerman293 05-22-2014 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 366320)
So I take it Kiva and Decade are apart of the W-Gaim universe now?
Not Decade for sure because it says just card. For all we know they could be Rouze or Advent cards.

Guyver Spawn 05-22-2014 03:31 PM
It has X which could beam 10 and Decade is the 10th Heisei rider. I doubt Ryuki could fit in the same universe given how the show ended. Blade could be possible.

Sunred 05-22-2014 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by losondro (Post 366160)
The driver on the screenshot says it is based off a snake's mouth. Thoughts?

Den-O 05-22-2014 04:55 PM
Guys that's just an easter egg is all. But we did see it some time ago.

losondro 05-22-2014 04:58 PM
Nobody told me about it till now :(

EnerPrime 05-23-2014 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 366320)
So I take it Kiva and Decade are apart of the W-Gaim universe now?
Decade is part of every universe. That's his whole thing.

Crt 05-23-2014 04:30 PM

FormerTitanium 05-23-2014 04:35 PM
What in the world... Holy crap does that Apple Lock seed arm looks awesome.

Glad were getting more medevil Knight Theme riders... "COME ON!"

ShockerCon 05-23-2014 04:36 PM
Hot diggedy damn!

KamenRiderOOO 05-23-2014 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FormerTitanium (Post 366733)
What in the world... Holy crap does that Apple Lock seed arm looks awesome.

Glad were getting more medevil Knight Theme riders... "COME ON!"
Remember, that's what we see with the Golden Apple Lock Seed. Silver Apple's Faceplate looked eerily similar to Gaim's.

losondro 05-23-2014 04:38 PM
It's Glorious!

XW1n5t0nX 05-23-2014 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crt (Post 366730)
O_O

I demand a toy of that!

ShockerCon 05-23-2014 04:40 PM
His chest looks kinda like Den-O Sword with spikier eyes and a golden mouthplate.

FormerTitanium 05-23-2014 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 366736)
Remember, that's what we see with the Golden Apple Lock Seed. Silver Apple's Faceplate looked eerily similar to Gaim's.
Oh yea I understand, it's just that I'm glad were getting another Knight Look rider that looks like he can kick butt unlike Gridon who's just there for comic relief not a bad thing though, but when you count up the themes it's. Kuroage, Zangestu, And Gaim. then we HAve Knuckle, and Bravo, Baron and Gridon and just Ryugen. Minus the Energy Riders.

Crt 05-23-2014 04:59 PM
Here's the last picture I can find of the Golden Rider:

http://i.imgur.com/Te7P7ab.jpg

I just wonder how strong this Golden Apple Arms is. Is it strong enough to even challenge Super Mega Orange Kachidoki Arms?
This is what Baron should've been like. Instead we got his ugly Banana outfit. Now we will always refer to Kaito as Banana Man ;-;

Den-O 05-23-2014 05:34 PM
Already on the front page my friend. Been up for quite a while now. :thumb:

Crt 05-23-2014 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 366781)
Already on the front page my friend. Been up for quite a while now. :thumb:
Ah, didn't see that at all. I keep forgetting this isn't just a forum.

DrillBIT 05-23-2014 06:02 PM

losondro 05-23-2014 06:11 PM
[Fanboy screaming internally]

Domus 05-23-2014 06:21 PM
Looking at Kiwami Arms, all I can see is a clown's face staring back at me from the breastplate;
http://i.imgur.com/N5iXrQ5.jpg

Powerman293 05-23-2014 06:30 PM
Kiwami.... eh?

I just don't have a response for this. Considering we got Infinity last year and did a similar white/bright colored and fusing all of the powers motif, this seems kinda repetitive.

Although, with the movie screens being the way we saw Kiwami, does that mean that we are seeing Kiwami in the movie first or at the same time at the show?

losondro 05-23-2014 06:40 PM

Guyver Spawn 05-23-2014 06:56 PM
Has it been official if Drive is going to make a cameo in the summer Gaim movie?

uchihabro77 05-23-2014 09:16 PM
I actually like Kiwami. I might even like it more than Kachidoki maybe.

Guyver Spawn 05-23-2014 09:20 PM
Kiwami form looks pretty bad. I want to see it in action before I can judge it fully.

Odin 05-23-2014 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by uchihabro77 (Post 366902)
I actually like Kiwami. I might even like it more than Kachidoki maybe.
Same here, i prefer the more slimmed down design over the massive bulk of kachidoki, plus capes make everything cooler.

KyoryuGreen 05-23-2014 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 366827)
Has it been official if Drive is going to make a cameo in the summer Gaim movie?
From what I've heard yes.


I personally need to see Kiwami Arms in action because it looks like the Mid-Ultimate Form while Kachidoki looks like the Ultimate Form. It's not really about the bulk it's just Kachidoki just gives off that feels of an Ultimate Form. Kiwami just keeps making me think of Fourze Base States form. Also I think the Chest plate could have a better design to it. Hopefully in action and in story I'll change my mind.

Battlizer 05-23-2014 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen (Post 366922)
From what I've heard yes.
Woah wait, really? You remember the source for that?

Powerman293 05-23-2014 10:24 PM
Does anyone else notice that Kiwami Gaim has a lockseed holder for all of the energy lockseeds?

Talisman 05-23-2014 10:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powerman293 (Post 366948)
Does anyone else notice that Kiwami Gaim has a lockseed holder for all of the energy lockseeds?
I was wondering about that as well. Seems like there's only room for three though, and the ones I saw were Peach, Cherry, and Melon.


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