Elsewhere in the universe...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...-ninja-turtles

Thats probably the closest I will ever get to a Daredevil/TMNT crossover :lol

A) Do not die.

B)...

Yeah, that.

Huh... that's...

Dangit Convoy, stop stealing my thoughts before I even think them. :lol

It took me long enough to establish that mental link and I will not have that ruined :lolol

So I just watched the end of Arkham Knight and holy shit things really get off the rails.

I´m still not 100% sure how to read that last scene.

Along with Superman: Lois and Clark, premiering in the same month are Titans Hunt which focuses on multiple versions of the Teen Titans, and Telos which focuses on Telos searching for keys to his own origin throughout time and space.

Also it was announced several days ago I think, next year will premiere several miniseries:
Firestorm, Katana: Cult of the Kobra, Metal Men, Metamorpho, Poison Ivy: Cycle of Life and Death, Raven, Sugar & Spike, and Swamp Thing

Hold my copy of kingdom come and smile~ I think I might the only one that liked the hole WW superman relation ship in new 52

I didn't cause I knew it'd never last.

Status quo is god after all.

I don't like it because I feel its the most cliche pairing.
strongest superhero pairs up with strongest superheroine.
meh.

I will admit that they've had their moments that made me reluctantly admit that it kind of worked. And in something like Kingdom Come, it does work a bit better.

But Lois and Clark belong together.

And that is a subject that I have written about before. You can find that piece in both my deviantART gallery and on my Tumblr.

Shameless plugging in my 8,000th post. Wow.

Bruce Timm confirmed at SDCC that he is working on an animated adaptation of The Killing Joke.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/07/...animated-film/

Let's hope he treats Barbara Gordon with more respect than the original story.

Yeah, I can see a film adaptation just keeping the shooting itself and cutting all "implications" around it.

I just want Barbara to fight back. Because, realistically, that's what she would have done. She wouldn't have just stood in the doorway. She'd punch the Joker right in his grinning face. There'd be a struggle.

If they wanna do it right they shoudl do it like they did in Arkham Knight. Where the Joker shoots at the exact moment Babs opens the door giving her no time to react at all.

I would think she'd look through the peephole first.

Personally, I wish they'd just do away with the whole crippling thing. It was a product of its time and it shows. But since that's probably not going to happen, I think Barbara at least deserves one last fight where the Joker only gets in a cheap shot.

Given that she has one.

I like the crippling thing. Not the act how it happened but what it did for Babs as a character. Not being able to use her legs forced her to develop her mind and other skills and became a new kind of hero that wasnt just highly valuable for Batman but the superhero community as a whole.

She lives in America. I have yet to come across a house or an apartment or a home with a front door of some kind that doesn't have a peephole.

Oh, the development after that was definitely important. But it would have been unnecessary if Alan Moore hadn't made such a boneheaded decision in the first place. It says a lot about a story when the writer regrets their treatment of a character in a story like Alan Moore did with Babs in The Killing Joke.

I´m not from America I dont know that. But hey its Gotham and Gotham is a giant shithole of a city :lol Joker could always shoot her through the door when she looks through the peephole.

His decision may have been bad but its something that is part of her character now. And taking that away when you can still turn it into something good seems like a pretty big loss to me. You can make that story work. Arkham Knight did exactly that for example.

I know. But I went to Miami, and even Miami had peepholes. And Miami is awful. :lol

He could. But he'd have to be paying attention. But he's also an in-your-face kind of guy, so I don't think he would do that.

I think Gail Simone's run on Batgirl did it best. We all know the scene. We all know the iconic imagery. We only need to see the Joker standing in the doorway dressed as a tourist. The screen cuts to black and there's a gunshot. Scene over.

Yeah you dont have to be explicit about it. The act itself isnt nearly as important as the aftermath.

But I really hope Timm manages to make something great out of this. For the longest time I thought bringing Jason Todd back from the dead was the biggest mistake comics had ever done...and I still do! But because of that we got Under the Red Hood and that movie is absolutely great.

But Joker didn't give her a chance to react.

Not everyone uses peepholes. I don't.

I figure they'll have an introduction of showing Batgirl helping Batman stop some sort of crime before they go into the actual story

and at today's SDCC panel, DC confirmed that a new Green Lantern film is on the way. Title is Green Lantern Corps.

Gives me hope that we wont see much or anything at all set on earth.

Yes, please. I'm liking the Wonder Woman bits and I was a bit apprehensive about Gadot. I'm getting kind of jazzed for this now.

He probably will. He's Bruce Timm

Yes he did.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/...llingjoke3.jpg

The way these panels are structured indicate that the Joker didn't immediately shoot Barbara once she opened the door. He stood there, holding the gun, which Barbara noticed almost immediately, hence the inclusion of the second panel right before the third. In the amount of time it took for the Joker to shoot Barbara, it is easy enough to presume that Barbara had time to react. A change like that in the film would be reasonable and much more in character for Barbara Gordon than the original comic.

Barbara Gordon is the daughter of the police commissioner in one of the most crime-ridden cities in the world. She probably would use the peephole.

Thats what I´m talking about. Looks really good.

I would like to watch it now, please.

Oh. Hello, excitement. Why, yes—you have grown.

Me too.

And damn we actually have a Batman that went through the death of Jason Todd. Never thought I would see that happening.

first off, all 3 of those panels could be summing up less than a second, which would not give Barbara enough time to react. and the only way to prove this was longer than less than a second would be to have a timer at the bottom, which this does not.


also, one wouldn't use the peephole if she thought it was someone she was expecting, and even if she did use the peephole, she probably couldn't tell who it was. that's a plotpoint in Persona 4 which explains why someone wouldn't check the door and instead open it right away.

there was nothing wrong with the original comic or having Barbara become crippled. if anything, i felt her becoming Oracle was way better than her becoming Batgirl. because becoming Oracle meant something greater in the long run.

Interesting.
Don't really have much for or against it, I just hope it's cool.

Oracle was a great idea, and hey, if this results in her having an important role in an animated film at some point, I'd be happy.

Wahoo! That's the way to do a GL movie.

Hey, now that's a trailer that knows how to sell a movie, I mean Wondie still feels odd out there, but we have a proper idelogy clash, it actually feels like a MoS sequel and not just Batman featuring Supes.
You are working movie, you are working.

With seeing more what the movie is actually about it also makes some things I was afraid of more clear.
Namely the whole Superman army thing. Seeing how he is courted at the beginning of the trailer makes it look much more like he is forced by the government to work with the military which would make sense that Supes tries to appeal to them after he caused the death of millions. They just need to show though that hes uncomfortable with the situation and doesnt like to be used as a weapon by them.

Given the look of fear/shock on her face in the third panel, it's obvious that the scene lasted more than a second.

She wasn't expecting anyone when the Joker came knocking. And it's kinda hard not to figure out the guy standing outside of the door is the Joker, tourist costume or no.

The only reason Barbara became Oracle was because Kim Yale and John Ostrander found her crippling in The Killing Joke to be distasteful. And rather than let a character with such a rich history and significance fall into obscurity, they decided to bring her back as someone learning to live with disability. Her development into Oracle was crucial to the comic-book medium as a whole, but her crippling in The Killing Joke was, in the words of Alan Moore himself, "shallow and ill-conceived."

At the time of The Killing Joke's release, Barbara Gordon was a character with a 21-year history and an enormous fanbase. While her popularity had begun to decline, to have her story almost end as a mere plot device to further one story is completely disrespectful and a prime example of the "women in refrigerators" trope.

that's why I like the Killing Joke.
rather than letting it stay a tragedy and hang over their heads, they decided to make something good come out of the tragedy, like many people who overcome their disabilities.

I like Barbara as Oracle because she became something out of something horrible that happened to her. and it affected not only her, but other DC heroes as well. one of my favorite Booster Gold stories is him trying to stop Barbara from getting shot, and it's such a touching scene because it really shows how loyal and self-sacrificing Booster Gold can be.

that's why I like it. because a tragedy can lead to someone becoming greater than they ever could have been. and I hate seeing people get angry over it because they don't like seeing bad things happen to women. I feel the whole refrigerator trope has become perverted and an excuse to just say "I don't like this character being in a bad situation"

What I already hate about Batman vs. Superman is how much The Dark Knight Returns they pump into it. If you want to make a movie about Dark Knight Returns, as pointless as it would be, do it. Why rip the ideas out of context and rearrange it like that? I hate that.

Because Batman sells. That's the only reason.

You wanna sell these other DC heroes? Tie them to Batman.
Wanna make a movie? Tie it to Batman.
Wanna make cool figures? Tie it to Batman.

I mean, I like Batman, but even I know it sucks that they HAVE to use that kind of marketing to sell their stuff.

Suicide Squad trailer has been leaked.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=122711