I was referring to the person who posted that being mentally ill. He's said so himself and his past few pages of posts are nothing but "kill Ren and/or Reika".

He's all Sword and no Logos. I don't think he's totally irredeemable yet. He sees what the Swordsmen do and associate that heroism with SOL. Likewise, he sees Kamijo's crimes and assumes he's evil, instead of someone with good motivations who just went way too far with the means. Loyalty is a desirable quality for a knight but unfortunately, Reika is using that to encourage the fighting. Rintarou has that quality as well but his reasons are more personal, conflicted between two sides of people he considers family and finds it difficult to have faith in Touma since it's a truth he doesn't want to hear. Ren just can't accept that Kento's killer was anything more than a bad guy which is a more shallow perspective.

Not sure where Ren's arc is going to end but it seems like a long road before he sees the error of his ways. Desast's talk about him has me concerned though. So far, Ren is very angry about hearing the "one of us" thing since he hates the Megid but when all his allies join the one he deems a traitor, the Megid might be only side he could turn to.

Anyway, you should totally say your opinions here. That's what a discussion thread is for.

I've been checking the thread pretty regularly and I haven't seen Henshinzero mention anything about mental illness or killing Akiyama, who isn't even a character in this show. Besides, neither of us are really in a place to determine a real life person's capacity for reason. Maybe we should just talk about the show?

I was talking about the Ren from Saber right now. Kenzan.

Yeah I know who you were referring to, but Chasing suddenly started talking about Ren from Ryuki.

And I forgot that Kenzan was called Ren.

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/ab...deee74116ecf1e

Taken from this article
"現在放映されている「仮面ライダーセイバー」は4・3%。「スーパー戦隊」ものも同様の傾向で"

Saber is starting to ramp up in ratings. Comparable to Kiramager.

Does anyone have any idea or know how long the Buster manga will go on for? The W Fuuto Tantei manga is over 90 chapters right now (causing me to be mad at myself for procrastinating in learning Japanese) but I can't exactly see this happening to a manga that's debuting alongside a how it's a spin-off of.

Could be wrong but still.

They never specified but my guess is suppose they wanna publish at least 1 tankobon I assume around 5-7 chapters perhaps?

If it's possible Kento becomes the next Calibur discarding Ikazuchi, Mei better be the one next to takeover for him in order to set him free!

1001 Arabian Nights better be the upgrade for Espada!

I think should they revive Kento he becomes Espada Turbo for a lack of better words and gets to have fun with both Ikazuchi and Kurayami. It is technically an heirloom after all. And all the more reason to repaint him in Los Angeles Lakers colors and sell the toy for a higher price. :lolol

Kento's red eyes makes me assume they're going to do a "brainwashing" subplot and Kento would briefly use Kurayami and eventually go back to Ikazuchi or use it alongside Kurayami.

In a perfect world, I'd like Kento be revived somehow and assume the ""protagonist"" role and Touma to switch to Deuteragonist role while he's still in Primitive Dragon. Have Kento take up both Ikazuchi and Kurayami (or the former for now) and get some sort of "Super Alangina" form or a Calibur/Espada fusion form and save Touma from Primitive Dragon. In a effort to prevent Touma from anymore suffering.

All the more reason to paint him in Los Angeles Lakers colors and sell the toys at a higher price. :lolol

Though, imagine if Saber were to insert the Jaaku Dragon Wonder Ride Book into Primitive Dragon. That would be scary.

Though, I have just realized that if Touma were to insert Lion Senki into Primitive Dragon, he would literally be a Lionheart. Lionheart is a reference to King Richard the Lionheart from the Robin Hood story.

And also, what would happen if Saber or any other Rider from Kamen Rider Saber were to insert the Book Gate Wonder Ride Book into their Transformation Device? It hasn't been shown to have a Transformation Page, yet. But, what would happen?

Jaaku Dragon doesn't seem to be that special of a WRB, unlike King Of Arthur. It'll most likely just take form like any other Primitive form change.

I Imagine a hole appearing on the rider if they put the book gate on their belt, sucking them in.

What if Kenzan's future upgrade be something like Ryugen Yomi, but with a book based off of Fuma Kotaro?

I guess. Though I think that it would allow him to wield both Kaenken Rekka and Ankokuken Kurayami like Lamp do Alangina allowed him to wield both Kaenken Rekka and Raimeiken Ikazuchi. Now THAT would be scary.
But what if King of Arthur was inserted into Primitive Dragon? He would be able to wield Kaenken Rekka, Kingexcalibur, and have the power of Primitive Dragon. That would be extremely scary.

Also, considering the warped portal found on the Story Page Sticker and the Cover Page of Primitive Dragon, inserting the Book Gate Wonder Ride Book could be interesting. Either that or Eternal Phoenix.

The next thing is this. How about some speculation about what if all the Riders in Kamen Rider Saber got final forms or at least upgrade forms?

And finally, what if they were to release a group of Wonder Ride Books/Alter Ride Books based upon Famous Cryptids from around the world? Like the Jersey Devil, the Moth Man, the Owl Man, the Loch Ness Monster, the Chupacabra, Bigfoot/Sasquatch, etc. They have done the Yeti in the form of Shirayuki Yeti. So what about more Cryptids?

Probably not. Scans show Primitive Dragon with Lion Senki and he’s still just using Rekka.

On the note of Cryptids, they would likely be covered by the Legendary Animals WRB genre, seeing as there are only three.

I have just realized that the way Primitive Dragon works, it allows for Alter Ride Books to be inserted. Imagine forms of Primitive Dragon with the powers of the Alter Ride Books.

Desast could legit get taken out of the picture by being stolen.

Just a hunch, but I get the sense that would be just as bad for Touma as it would be for Desast... I could see it being a significantly more dangerous version of previous "two characters sharing a body" forms

Yeah, now that I think about it, holding Desast's sword may cause Touma to have a flashback to when he watched Calibur die.

I was more considering the other ones. Gansekiou Golem, Hanzaki Sanshouou, Ari Ka Kirigirisu, and the like.

Though, if Desast and Touma were in the same body, it would either be incredibly dangerous, or incredibly hilarious.

Meanwhile, I wonder what would happen if the Alter Ride Books were Wonder Ride Books, and Vice Versa. If there were Megid based upon the Wonder Ride Books and if Forms based upon the Alter Ride Books.

I have just watched the entire battle Primitive Dragon battle from Start to Finish. My only reaction to it is just "Holy crap," in that sort of way when you are too shocked to yell it out, so it just comes out almost a whisper. Touma isn't just in a Berserker State, he is just plain FERAL. He isn't holding the sword properly. He is growling instead of saying many, if any coherent words. He is crouching like a feral animal. He is, it's less that he is in a Berserker state, it's almost like he was POSSESSED by Primitive Dragon. I mean, this appears to be the scariest Berserker Form ever in Kamen Rider History. It's scarier than Kamen Rider Zero-One's MetalClusterHopper, it's scarier than Kamen Rider Ex-Aid's Hunter Action Gamer Level 5 (Full Dragon), it's scarier than Kamen Rider OOO's Putotyra Combo. He is almost Amazons levels of feral. Seriously, the only reason why it isn't even more violent is that it's not Amazons and is actually on TV instead of the Internet. Seriously, I predicted that Saber would become almost a villain when using it, and I was still surprised at just how scary he is using this form. With MetalClusterHopper, Aruto isn't even controlling the suit. The suit is under the Satellite Ark's control. With Ex-Aid and Drago Knight Hunter Z, Ex-Aid isn't really in control, either. With Putotyra, Eiji is possessed by the Greeed, but he manages to learn how to control it afterwards. However, Touma is changed in the mind. He is not himself, even though he is conscious. And I'm not sure whether he would be able to shake its influence even without being transformed into Primitive Dragon. It's just, holy crap, Saber Primitive Dragon is freaking scary.

I hope this doesn't sound like I'm doubtful or anything, but can you provide a link?

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...56&oe=605BB847

假面騎士Saber 雜志圖

女騎士/劍士登場! 假面騎士サーベラ(Sabera)

神代玲花為變身者!

武器名為煙叡剣狼煙，使用昆蟲大百科變身!

So Reika is SirBella (Sabela)

She's... GLORIOUS!

Long have I waited for this moment! HELL YEAH!

I would like my SHF now, please.

Edit: Her sword is the one with the similar guard as Storious. Guess that theory flies out the window.

Our first look at Primitive Dragon's upgrade add-on, Eternal Dragon!

And is that an upgraded Legeiel??

Is that Reika? The suit itself does look really nice and detailed, making me dread how much of it will be stickers and missing paint aps in the Sodo release...

And Eternal Dragon! I can't tell whether that's the best or worst colour combination in Saber, but I love it either way!

My brain be lyke:

Hurah! Its not red! Another toys to skip!

My heart, tho:

Im sad. Why its not red?

Actually, I don't know if the name is Eternal or Elemental. Can't seem to read it right.

Also, this is literally the meme of the "Upgrade" and "Fuck, go back" of Saber forms. I like that the WRB decal is gone, but the orange clashing with the cyan is a bit too much.

Edit: Seems that Sabela uses an actual Saber. Pretty neat.

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c3&oe=605B1770

another page of the Elemental/eternal dragon

How does that book work!?

Sabella's sword is called Eneiken Noroshi. Noroshi being related to something about Smoke.

I would like SHF plz

That rider literally looks like a legend hero

Name looks like Elemental Primitive Dragon.

And hurray Reika finally transforms. One more "Shin/Kami" Rider for the season.

Where are you getting the rest of these from?

NOOOOOO!!!!!!! I want Luna as a rider!!!!!! Let her element be ice!!!!

That can still happen

the lower one is indeed Eineken Noroshi
We're only missing the one in the middle now.