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KamenRiderOOO 11-05-2013 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV (Post 246226)
I have a spare sandstorm you can have if you want?
...What do you request in return? :lol

ZeoRangerV 11-05-2013 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 246242)
...What do you request in return? :lol
Absolutely nothing.

KamenRiderOOO 11-05-2013 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV (Post 246243)
Absolutely nothing.
...give me a minute to get online :lol

PkmnMstr 11-05-2013 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Klonoahedgehog (Post 246240)
My brother just gave me a crazy theory.
"You do realize that you don't have to go through all this trouble right? Just get 5 eggs, hatch them and if they don't come out shiny just soft reset."
That's incorrect. Shininess, like stats, is determined when receiving the egg. Not when it hatches. Soft resets would just result in hatching the exact same 5 Pokémon over and over.

Your Secret ID number is tied to shininess. So while shininess is determined when you receive an egg, if you trade an egg containing a shiny to someone else, it may not hatch shiny since it'll receive their ID/Secret ID.

ZeoRangerV 11-05-2013 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 246244)
...give me a minute to get online :lol
I needed a protean Froakie too. Excellent :D

KamenRiderOOO 11-05-2013 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV (Post 246251)
I needed a protean Froakie too. Excellent :D
Thought you might as well get one of mine ^_^

Matrixbeast 11-05-2013 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Klonoahedgehog (Post 246240)
My brother just gave me a crazy theory.
"You do realize that you don't have to go through all this trouble right? Just get 5 eggs, hatch them and if they don't come out shiny just soft reset."
Nnope. It's the same reason why natur--

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Originally Posted by PkmnMstr (Post 246250)
That's incorrect. Shininess, like stats, is determined when receiving the egg. Not when it hatches. Soft resets would just result in hatching the exact same 5 Pokémon over and over.

Your Secret ID number is tied to shininess. So while shininess is determined when you receive an egg, if you trade an egg containing a shiny to someone else, it may not hatch shiny since it'll receive their ID/Secret ID.
Oh. Nevermind then :lol

Anyway, I'm bored. Anyone up for a DEATH BATTLE?

Klonoahedgehog 11-05-2013 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PkmnMstr (Post 246250)
That's incorrect. Shininess, like stats, is determined when receiving the egg. Not when it hatches. Soft resets would just result in hatching the exact same 5 Pokémon over and over.

Your Secret ID number is tied to shininess. So while shininess is determined when you receive an egg, if you trade an egg containing a shiny to someone else, it may not hatch shiny since it'll receive their ID/Secret ID.
Is it weird that this gave me a small headache?

Matrixbeast 11-05-2013 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Klonoahedgehog (Post 246275)
Is it weird that this gave me a small headache?
Simply put, a Pokemon in an egg is determined when you receive the egg. It's nature, it's attacks, it's stats, and whether or not it's shiny are all set in stone.
Shininess is tied to a secret ID number (Not your Player ID).
So an egg, traded as an egg, to someone else, can hatch as shiny for them, but not for you, as determined by the secret ID.

PkmnMstr 11-05-2013 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Klonoahedgehog (Post 246275)
Is it weird that this gave me a small headache?
No. It took me a bit of time to grasp at first too. This knowledge was key in using the RNG method to find shinies in 4th gen.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 246276)
Simply put, a Pokemon in an egg is determined when you receive the egg. It's nature, it's attacks, it's stats, and whether or not it's shiny are all set in stone.
Shininess is tied to a secret ID number (Not your Player ID).
So an egg, traded as an egg, to someone else, can hatch as shiny for them, but not for you, as determined by the secret ID.
Exactly this. Thanks for adding clarification.


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