I don't think he was arguing that. His point was that the cars feel more like a toy or gimmick than past collectibles. I mean, when compared to rings, locks, or medals, they do feel more generic and less-inspired. Although admittedly, they do hold more play value.

I think we hit the peak of feels like a gimmick thats clearly just for toys with Fourze personally.

I have to disagree for the simple reason that none of those are technically already toys of some sort. Cards? Simple way to scan information. While used for playing games, I wouldn't consider them toy-like. Medals? Based on coins. Once again, not necessarily toy-like. Astro switches? Unique, but based on buttons, knobs, circuit breakers and the like.

Toy-like doesn't necessarily equate to 'gimmicky'. I think the reason this series' collectibles have a more toyetic feel is because they're literally based off Hot Wheels or Matchbox. Toys.

I dunno man, I feel like Decade, OOO, and Fourze handeled the toy gimmick aspect a bit more subtely.

Something about the Trideron just seems like something they threw in just to sell more Shift Cars and DX toys.

That needs to happen xD

And on the topic of the Cars: Atleast you can play with them. Cards you can shuffle.. I guess? And the Medals do nothing (Sorry Bro), the Switches you can click.. yay? And the Rings were just meh. The Lockseeds you could open and close and have them make noise yea, but other than that? Atleast with the Shift Cars you can play with them about your desk.

What I want are Shift Car Hot Wheel track sets. Or better yet a slot car track!

Eh, from watching Drive, the Shift Cars feel more like the Minicons from Transformers than anything else.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Shift Cars have been more useful and kicked more monster butt in 2 episodes than the PlaMonsters did the entire run of Wizard. :lol

I cannot wait for the eventual scans of Legend Rider Shift Cars.

I suspect they'll be absolutely ridiculous.

Didn't even realize this until now. The Gimmicks have defeated a couple of goons in the 1st episode... Even the Gimmicks are becoming deadly now!