decade was the real killbus all along

W Tribute Episodes in series is still possible to be happened. Since we already have Another Double in movie, maybe Another Eternal is really good choice for monster in W Tribute Episode. I think its still interesting if Shotaro or Terui are appeared as returning character in Zi-O series......

She was still talking like they had no choice but working with White Woz due to Sogo's power growing, like the far future foresight. It's only after the reveal that he was manipulating reality that she was unquestioningly with White Woz and never talked about him in a negative way at all.

Another W itself could still appear again since it had no revealed identity in the movie. That seems like an easy way to leave space for the tv show to cast anyone as that later.

Man I'm only looking forward to the next episode because Tsukasa is back.

Anyone else notice in the preview for the next episode that Swartz is dressed almost exactly like the guy in Sougo's dream? You know, the one who told him that he'll become a King. That would actually be a really good twist: Swartz is actually a secret ally or servant for Oma Zi-O that founded the Time Jackers so that they could (unintentionally) help create Oma Zi-O's future powers (aka, the Ridewatches). The Another Riders remove the Rider's history/powers. Zi-O and/or Geiz need to get the complete Ridewatch in the present before going back to defeat the Another Rider in the past then give a blank Ridewatch to a Kamen Rider to create the Ridewatch. Putting it into basics and simplify, the existence of a Another Rider warrants the need and creation of a Ridewatch. So the Time Jackers would've been founded in the belief they can make their own King with a Another Rider but Swartz is using them to create Oma Zi-O's powers.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was true since Swartz clearly has his own ulterior motives and pretty much works solo or just uses the other Time Jackers for his own needs. He can travel to potential futures (he was able to take Shinobi's powers), his powers as a Time Jacker are much stronger, and he creates Another Riders that the other Time Jackers don't know about (Another Zi-O). He's also the only Time Jacker whose name isn't derived from another word for "time" or anything related to time (Heure is French for hour/time, Ora means hour/now in Italian and could be derived from the Spanish and Portugese word for hour, hora).

Hmm...interesting, Another W's true identity still unknown.

I really curious to how Another W is defeated in movie....

In series, usually the true identity will be exposed after Another Rider is defeated by Kamen Rider....

Hmm....I hope the W Armor will be used again in series especially in W Tribute Episode.....

Regarding Tsukuyomi, I'm still not fully convinced that White Woz didn't somehow orchestrate her betrayal with his OP future-writing book. It's very possible he set up the events leading to Tsukuyomi's possible death to give Geiz the resolve he needed to become Geiz Revive.

And going back to Geiz, his character gets a bit of a bad rap I feel. Sure, he flip-flops, but it makes sense given the context of the story. Oma Zi-O killed his family, but he comes to the past to find a young man who, as of now, wouldn't even think about doing such a thing. As Fish said, Geiz has been warming up to him and any time he does talk about killing Zi-O, it's been clear that Geiz is all talk and no action, and I think that's the point. That's been his entire character arc leading up to this moment.

His indecisiveness and inaction resulted in other people having to make the necessary sacrifices, thus putting them in harm's way. And I think seeing Tsukuyomi resort to such drastic measures that resulted in her death/near-death finally forced him into action. And you know what? I don't even think Tsukuyomi was trying to kill Sougo in the first place and it's a misdirection. But as long as Geiz sees it that way, it doesn't matter.

Honestly, there's so many different factors at play here that I feel perhaps people may be jumping the gun on this a bit too soon? I mean, you've got the Timejackers, you've got Scwartz who seems to have his own entirely different agenda, you've got White Woz, you've got Black Woz, you have Sougo's own future creating powers, and who the hell knows what role Tsukasa is playing in all of this. I think we should just see how it plays out before jumping to call this the "worst Rider show ever".

Yeah, at this point, I'm expecting him to be the big villain behind everything.

Swartz learned about Sogo's powers somehow, tells him during his childhood about how he needed to become king to save the world from something no one else can, and due to Sogo's powers that creates Oma Zi-O and everything around him. Then he also creates the Time Jackers to work on a way to take over all that and use it for himself, thus Another Zi-O (which is likely just another middle step in this plan), which seemed to be a secret from the other Time Jackers.

Agreed, overall there are issues with the show most of us will agree with, but it is far to early to judge the full plot.

It should be said that Hora is probably on his side, there is very little redeming about her as a person at this point with how she and Swartz fully planned on turning Uhr into a mindless puppet, Uhr will likely end up on Sougos side I believe.

So Hora is likely part of whatever is going on behind the scenes, or she is just flat out evil which is also possible.

Decade is clearly after the big fish in all of this though, honestly I find the speculation and possible upcoming plot very entertaining overall, and I cannot say I had any of that with a season like Ghost.

In before we actually get the reveal of Tsukasa and Narutaki being the same person during this season to tie up that little likely cut due to time in the original Decade.