I won't comment on Akaishi for I haven't seen Revice meaning I cannot judge it fairly at all but the Jamato are seperate from the DGP. Like, after the DGP gets dissolved, they still exist and have potential for evil. That's all Girori needs to want the typical virtuous heroes in his game

But he literally called Archimedel on the phone to ask him to lower the difficulty level for the riders. Also, for a fan of "good heroes" his games had the most bad riders compared to DesaStar and Desire Royal from the crossover.

They still aren't one and the same nor does that contradict the way Girori prefers his show to go, he cannot control the contestents, trying to meddle with Geats for his winstreak caused what, exactly?

Maybe it makes some sense, but to me it's like a Shocker trooper wearing an "I love Kamen Riders" T-shirt. Just not that funny.
Also no, he can control the participants. One of the episodes literally ended with the rule: “The participants are chosen by the DGP Gamemaster.” Ace, with his desire to play to death, ensured his constant participation and thereby partially escaped Girori's control. Maybe it is the excessive freedom of the permanent champion that is the reason for the negative attitude, and not his personality? And yes, Girori told Keiwa that he wants his wish to come true, but the reason may be the same increase in interest in the show. So many former players will return and can be re-recruited, ratings will obviously jump.

I was trying to think about some of my favorite redemption arcs I've seen in tokusatsu and you know which two came to mind most readily for ones I liked? Alain in Ghost. Alain's is something I think even Ghost dislikers such as myself can find a lot to enjoy in, even if he gets a lot less focus later on. I think what makes Alain so striking is how believable his initial callousness is due to his background and also his slow process of coming around. I'm sure there are more I liked but that one really stuck with me!

Agree. Thank you for your opinion.

Ok I'll admit I forgot that one rule which muddies things but seeing as the DGP is still about saving people, Girori isn't a contradiction

Yeah yeah, we all know that these type of characters are interesting, just hoping that they can be liked without them getting their bad traits justified or downplayed. I do wish that said trolley problem is seen by fandom as only that character's personal thoughts, instead of viewing it as the one hard truth. Villain's words seem to be always taken in face value, people can see everything as either/or situation, that following their words the choice is only to let the biggest baddies destroy the world or let someone stop them even if they'd also murder many (and bash the 'naive' heroes for opposing them... why their plans are seen as guaranteed to succeed anyway).

Otherwise, my focus here was on the cynical worldview itself - of which said view is often viewed as being sensible, "logical", and realistic, when it can be just the cynical people being so lazy and faithless to be so used to acting a certain way, never considered another option, or never even thought another option was possible - which can mean, it's only them rationalizing their actions or proving they?re in the right (this one's just egotistic). Cynicism is a dogmatic and narrow-minded view that leans on negative bias, Michi is too lazy to consider another option and just goes for the easiest solutions while refusing to have his belief challenged for most of the series (while he acknowledged his hypocrisy, he still deflects blames thrown on him if others point it out).

Do people actually forget that, the DGP is the one that created the Jamatos?
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Do you actually believe in DGP's bogus claims of saving the world (and Girori claiming that he'd want to contribute for world peace and that he's like Mamoru Shima or Wakabayashi or such)? Just because Archimedel has his own agendas and wants/plans to rebel, doesn't mean that Archimedel wasn't a part of the DGP, DGP obviously should have someone in charge of developing them. You can create Jamatos outside of the DGP if you know how... but doesn't mean that it's always separate from DGP like Humagears to ZAIA.

Girori calls Archimedel to send Jamatos after people, then claims that the Jamato has invaded. He doesn't want to stop the Jamatos, he only wants to moderate them so that they won't be too strong to beat the Riders. He wants a display of the Riders' heroism by creating war and having the public get attacked by Jamatos. For the entertainment of the audiences (who like heroism), like many other future people, just that he's the type to want to give "good ending" for the audience, but he still treats this world and real people as plaything too. At the end by siding with Ace he also talks about the entertainment for the audience who wants the DGP back to its roots as Riders beating bad guys rather than the sadist show Suel is turning it into - though by then he assigns the DGP as the bad guys to be beaten.

The reason he wants to eliminate Ace is, to protect the DGP's secrets. Yes... the secret that the DGP creates Jamatos or that they rob people's lives and happiness to grant wishes and keep the game going (by granting more winners' wishes). Claiming Ace's wish as frivolous is his tactics to manipulate Keiwa into eliminating Ace.

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Is Girori another one that got people justifying him since Chirami was appointed as GM? And only because of his pretty words of wanting to contribute for world peace or being right about something. Like above, I know that people'd like to paint villains as in the right/doing nothing wrong due as people commonly take their words at face value, or if but nah, but I'm not buying the pretty words they way, would be a hot take to the fandom but I'm exposing their insincerity.

Guess in that department, Micchy has similar stuff, but more setup from the beginning than Gai was. Takatora also pressured him in his academics and Yggdrasill position/role like enlisting him in elite school and forbidding "distractions" for him, which also makes him want to escape Takatora's shadow by said control. His moments with Team Gaim is his escapism, which he also has to cover due to it being viewed as distraction and lowlifes he can't associate. He'd protect said joy he felt by being with team Gaim by any means, eventually escalating to sacrifice humanity to do so to "spare" them (though Mai is above anything including other friends, he'd go after his other friends that gets in his way too). What makes him finally relent was when his schemes fail to accomplish anything and instead backfire to them, causing both Kouta and Mai's (by entrusting her to Ryoma) death, after for a while he's trying to validate his insanity while his conscience (Takatora hallucination) was practically telling him he's fucked up.

Regarding this, you wouldn't view Masamune as being redeemed right for being a help to Kiriya? Why wouldn't you view Daichi as the same way as Masamune in the end of Geats? Both are only doing that for personal benefit which happens to be done by allying with the good guys (for Daichi, it's his curiousity to humans he already had since his debut). Another comparison for Daichi might be another four-glasses insane evil genius Utsumi in Build, who sided with the good guys to avenge Namba, and by result benefits them, even having Utsumi shield them, but it wouldn't be redeemed too eh, he prioritized protecting the Lost Bottle and shows open spite to Gentoku still. I also wonder how'd you view Evolt's actions of fighting Killbus, cuz it's also an alliance done for mutual benefit that many people also mistook as "redemption", as usual due to glorifying villains for just benefitting the heroes.

I can only speak for myself but the recently announced V Cinema having been described as the heroes 'discovering the secrets of the Jyamato' crossed my wires, again, my bad, it's been almost a year since some of these things so I guess it slipped my mind more than I realized with all I've had going on


Nah I get you, it's important to read between the lines and there's much more to villains than what they say, I still live in denial about a villain like this in one of my favourite franchises and refuse to believe anything but "He made it all up to sound righteous" lmao

Well, there may be a ?true origin? in V-cinema, which even the DGP employees did not know about (probably for reasons of ?realism?). Or is it a situation of limited canon, as when in the crossover the wishes came true without the approval of the producer and the Goddess of Creation. Or maybe Takahashi should re-read his script more often and he himself forgot that he had already explained the origin of Jamato.