Disney, in their move to make as much profit as possible (:P have declared all of anthing non-canon. Anything not in the movies, The Clone Wars Tv Show/Movie, Rebels and a few specific materials released since then doesn't count. No Yuzhan Vong, no Battlefront, not much else. The Clone Wars retconned most, if not all of the Clones being retired after Episode III. The internet has a more complex list, if you need one. I think one of the few things still canon is that Boba Fett survived the Sarlacc pit, but I don't have a source for that.

That sucks Disney flat out slapped all Star Wars EU out. I hope they at least throw in some nods with character designs and whatnot, kinda like how the new Gundam movies/OVAs throw in some Expanded Universe suits in the background.

I guess it's a controversial issue, but I personally feel it was the right thing to do, to declare everything sans direct Lucasfilm productions non-canon. In particular, having the post-ROTJ EU constrain the story of future movies will make it very difficult for storytelling.

I also feel that a lot of the EU is just too convoluted and their stories are difficult to reconcile with each other. In particular, it took me a number of years to accept the Yuuzhan Vong, and it's still a pain to work out what happened in the Old Republic era, when trying to reconcile the Bioware stuff with the earlier comics. Inconsistent ideas about how the Force works, conflicting histories, and the differing portrayal of the factions present make things extremely difficult to follow.

In the past, Lucasfilm avoided this problem by declaring the prequel era off limits (until the movies were produced) and to lay off the post-Episode III and pre-Episode IV period (with exceptions like The Force Unleashed). This meant the story they wanted to tell was untouched. But now, when creating a direct sequel to Jedi, they are faced with a timeline that has been densely, even if messily, packed with stories. There is no room to tell a story without destroying it wholesale.

I guess in the end it depends on how much you like the EU. I like lots of parts of it, but I dislike enough parts to be willing to compromise the ones I do like. So, purely in my opinion, I think getting rid of the canonicity of the EU was a good idea. Remember, the EU was never fully canon anyway, it was always "canon unless contradicted by Lucasfilm productions, which take precedence". Therefore one could argue this was simply an extension of the earlier policy.

Yes. I am aware of that. I was curious to see where the clone confirmation was in the teaser. Was it in the VO, because John Boyega doesn't resemble Temuera Morrison to my eyes. I had the audio quite low and may have missed it.

And while I don't imagine some profit motivation was involved, there are a lot of people who would collect royalties from EU stuff appearing, I think a big portion of it was to free themselves creatively from more than twenty years of tangled continuity created since Heir to the Empire was published in '91. Also, everything ComicGuy said. :D

Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so confrontational. I'm not even halfway through family holiday drama weekend and the stress of it all is making me super cranky.

I wish Disney would adopt the Sunrise stance on expanded works, where everything in the Movies/Clone Wars/Rebels is canon and everything during that time period that contradicts it is not canon. But anything that doesn't interfere is canon if you want it to be. Or it is adapted.

But with that approach, you get dumb shit like 7 RX-78 Gundams running around during the One Year War. I could not imagine the stupidity that could breed from this type of approach. "Hey guys, there were actually 3 Vaders running around!"

So I guess this method works?

That was Lucasfilm's old stance, where everything was canon unless contradicted by the movies or TV shows. But yes, that made things very difficult and the task is left to places like Wookieepedia to sort out the mess and figure out what is what.

My opinion is they should adopt the Star Trek route, where NOTHING but the movies and TV shows are canon. But now they've done something in between, everything onwards from now is canon, including books, games, comics, etc.

Well, if everything is non-canon, that kinda lets them be able to pluck out non-canon stories, redux them and make them canon again. Like, pull out the Rise of the Empire storyline from Battlefront II and declare it canon if they wanted and to make particular ideas canon, like the Clone Uprising or the Empire preventing a new Droid army.

That's right, it'll be like in the Doctor Who canon, or in the past where Lucas picks certain things to be canonised, like the name "Coruscant", Aayla Secura, Quinlan Vos, etc.

Already we have seen the Rebels TV show adopt the EU's lightsaber combat disciplines (Form I to Form VII) as the Inquisitor is familiar with them. I would never have imagined they'd bother. :lol

Is the Force Unleashed Games canon?

Not in the new canon. Like all games before the new canon was established, it is now under the "Legends" banner.

For the time being at least.

Good god, that was a horrible teaser. Seeing this was like:

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STAR WARS! HERE! STAR WARS! LOOK AT IT! IT'S STAR WARS! A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE! STAR WARS! MYSTIC VOICE NARRATING! STAR WARS! STORMTROOPERS! STAR WARS! SAND! STAR WARS! RED LIGHTSABER! STAR WARS! X-WING! STAR WARS! MILLENIUM FALCON! STAR WARS!

Goddammit Abrams.

Really liked that teaser. Stormtroopers,X-Wings the freakin Falcon doing what the Falcon does best and that outmaneuver Tiefighters and the most dumbest version of the Lightsaber since the dumb yet awesome Light-Bostaff that Maul used :lol

It was cool.

It was...Meh. 2 new faces, a dumb looking droid, and a fanfic-esque lightsaber.

Is the idea of a lightsaber not already pretty fanficy? :lol

Not really.
It's like a laser gun. The idea is ridiculous, but accepted.
But then someone has to go and say "It's not cool enough!" And then make a hand held Death Star cannon with wings on it or something :p

Yeah I get that but its still the "Swords are not cool enough! Mak it a sword with a laser blade!" :lol

The New Lightsaber just added a Handguard that makes this new one actually alot more practical than the old one :lol

And atleast its not as idiotic as this :lolol

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Okay that new lightsaber is fucking awesome.

Lightsaber tonfa. That couldn't possibly go wrong!

The problem is it just doesn’t fit. Yet. The UFO-thing of the Inquisitor fits strangely well IMO, because it is actually thought through. It isn’t different from Grievous spinning his hands, and it is an optional mode, he can still use his lightsaber normally. But this is just dumb. And I hope this is the reason why it is that way: Because the user is a freaking maniac who doesn’t thinks things through. I could accept it if that’s the case.

As it stands though there is just no reason to not make a handle out of Cortosis or Beskar or anything, there is no need for this weird use of the saber blade.

Then why make a lightsaber at all if there is enough materials that work well against lightsabers you could use to make a functional blade out of?

And I´m not trying to be a smart ass, only asking this question because outside of the movies I dont really care about star wars :lol

Enough elements to have me somewhat interested.

Still practically nothing about the story though. I really, REALLY hope they aren't setting up for another dumbass "mystery box" again.

Because it is a part of their connection with the force. The earliest force-users had no laser, they channeled the force trough a special hilt that would create a blade. Later the Je'daii Order (precursor of the more modern Jedi Order) created the first lightsabers with a laser-blade, which had external power sources, these became their signature weapon and a symbol for their connection with the order.

The early Dark Jedi and later Sith actually used traditional blades for a very long time, these were usually enchanted trough Sith Alchemy which made them strong enough to even block lightsabers. Later on the Sith picked up lightsabers, simply to humiliate the Jedi through using their special weapon and showing them that they could wield it even better than they could. They later created their own varieties like the double bladed lightsaber.

Also I don't know if the materials that withstand lightsabers were actually around at that time, Cortosis is a very rare and hard to mine mineral, and Beskar is never easy to get since the Mandalorians produce it. And they are so rare anyways that a good blade would be rather hard to get.

Looks fine for what it was. Not sure why there are still Storm Troopers there when the Empire is gone, but whatever. It has Abrahms behind it, who did the two best Star Trek movies ever and features the Aluminum Falcon :-), so it is bound to be good.

I'm no Star Wars nerd like the rest of you guys, but I do have a question that's been bugging me since I was a wee kid. Why were some of the sith sabers hilts slightly tilted? Was it just for design purpose? Was it just because that's how the wielder wanted it to be? Or was it all for kicks and I'm over thinking a minor design.

Is it? ;)

It's because the wielder wanted it to be that way, basically. It allows the user more precise and effective attacks and flexibility, and access to a more complex fighting style. Count Dooku used it since he was a master in swordfighting yet felt unfulfilled with his style, Sidious advised him to try a curved hilt which fitted him perfectly, so he used it for the rest of his life. Of course it has downsides as well since the curved hilt makes certain attacks and maneuvers more difficult, but masters like Dooku can compensate it easily.

It's one of the rarer forms of hilts though since it requires much higher skill to use it properly than the standard hilt.

And if you mean Sith-sabers in general, they are not more tilted. They are either curved like Dooku's or completely straight.

Am I the only one that feels like the old clone wars cartoon as in the 10 mins one with the bad ass gerivous still cannon cause it fits more in to the films then the cgi one does

While the old Clone Wars cartoons were really awesome, I disagree that they fit in better with the films than the CGI one does. There are notable inconsistencies, mostly with style. Grievous is probably the biggest difference here, his ruthless assassin portrayal in Clone Wars is markedly different from his cowardly mustache-twirling portrayal in Revenge of the Sith.

Also noteworthy are how crazy powerful the Jedi are here, able to crash troop carriers into each other and decimate entire armies without a lightsaber, which seriously deviates from their power levels in the films.

Nevertheless, the Clone Wars was terrific for its time and still has some of the most memorable scenes in Star Wars. Thinking about the Greivous chase scene in Coruscant still gives me the chills.

Duno never saw that last episode of the awesome clone wars cartoon one was the last episode it fit in exactly where re angle of sith takes place the fact grevillea tone change was Lucas part and see as he had his heart force crushed by mace so date to that he can't do any thing. That last ePisode made 3 more understandable due to how and why palpating was caught and still think it fit better in. To the films then CGI one did

Well yeah, they killed Palpatine, which meant the empire was done. Even the celebration at the end stated as such.

In the expanded universe the Empire survives as various warring states loosely united under a common goal. I guess a similar approach will be adopted in the next movie. After all, it is unlikely that the Empire will be defeated that easily. Severely crippled, yes, but not fully defeated.

I feel as though I should mention I've been reading Shadows of the Empire lately.

A pretty popular book. Xizor makes an interesting villain.

Albeit a short-lived one. This is actually something I've been meaning to get to reading for a long while, I just found it at one of my favorite used book shops for a song a couple of weeks ago and said "To entropy with it, let's do this."

Now if only I could find a copy of Heir to the Empire that wasn't falling apart or had a big chunk seemingly bitten out of it.

Oooh, neat. That's one of the few things I haven't gotten around to, but really probably should. Even if it no longer exists *sigh*.

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Also, I don't get how anyone could feasibly thing that just because Palpatine was killed that the Empire would suddenly just up and disappear. That isn't even remotely realistic. Disregard all expanded universe even. It just doesn't make sense for the rulers of nearly the entirety of the galaxy to just decide "yeah okay we'll leave power now and you'll never ever see anything from us again."

Well they also lost Vader and the crew of the Executor which would have been some of the most competent officers the Empire had as shown in Empire Strikes back since Vader kills officers for screwing up. Not to mention I doubt Palpatine had a successor in mind in case he died and even if he did then their woud be too much in fighting amongst the rest of the higher ups for them to do anything

Sorry, but I don't see the expanded universe as anything more than fanfiction. If it hasn't been stated in the movies or the canon cartoons, it isn't official.

I did not try to argue the Expanded Universe is canon, and besides it isn't anymore. I am merely stating that a similar explanation could be used and canonised for the new series of movies, as it would make sense.

Precisely this. Even discounting the entirety of the Expanded Universe, it would still be reasonable to expect the Empire to remain strong after Palpatine's death.