You spelled "Umeko" wrong.

Practice what you preach then ;)

That's now I work :lolol

I'd be inclined to agree, but then he spouted that best villains nonsense.
Kurojishi Rio and Brajira, alone, outperform every Kyoryu villain combined.

Kyoryuger's deepest villain is Aigaron, and that's not saying much.

Brajira I'll give you.

That's because Rio is always a given~

Are you honestly trying to say that the Deboss are better than Rio? The guy that got more development than the average Sentai member and way more than practically any villian? Seriously?

No, I haven't seen enough Geki to make a judgement.

Let's just say this.
Rio is better developed than most teams entirely.

Ok, just making sure.

Indeed.

It's the same thing when I said Deboss are the best villians in recent memory. I was basing that off series' I've actually finished. So Goseiger, Gokaiger, and now Kyoryuger.

That's a short list for a guy called Sentai. :p

You need to expand your repertoire :lol
Spread your wings! Dive into some Deka, Geki, or the first Gosei team, Dairanger :p

Or Go-Busters, for crap's sake. You really can't go talking about best recent villains when you haven't seen Enter in all his glory.

Seconded. Enter is my fave villain for a reason.

I'll ask the same thing Locke did when he started watching Goseiger. How many episodes before it gets good?

Hard to say, but I'd say there's some cool stuff at around ep 5?
Also, watch Shinkenger. And Gekiranger!

I saw Shinkenger already, I sat through Samurai :lol

This is one of those things that's going to vary for different people. Some are gonna say when Beet/Stag Buster were introduced (episode 15), some are going to say when the changeover happened (around episode 29-30) and then people like me are going to say Go-Busters was always awesome :p

So 15 then :lol

So you didnt see shinkenger :lol

Samurai is the ultra light version of Shinkenger :lol

That doesn't count! Samurai doesn't have all the awesome characters! Takeru, Ryunosuke, Kotoha...
Besides, not seeing the most Japanese Sentai in Japanese is like... I don't know, eating potato chips without potatoes.

Tono-Sama *-*

I like Veggie chips! .. I think I'd rather watch Shinkenger over Go-Busters :lol

Then do so, because Shinkenger is great!
Not that I don't like Go-Busters, but on the writing side, Shinkenger is the better season.

I'd say it remained pretty consistently competent throughout. I never thought it was really great (although it did have its moments), but it was pretty consistently enjoyable.

Samurai is the perfect example of bastardising. Samurai copies all of Shinkenger except what made Shinkenger good.



Anyways, I still have to go with Dekaranger as worst I've seen. After 30+ episodes of nothing happening and it being painfully unfunny, I gave up. There's a series out there that makes Dekaranger look good, but I haven't seen enough of them to make that call.


And there's a few like myself that will say Go-Busters is the 360° series beginning and ending great, but the middle can be pretty awful.

Regardless, Beet J Stag steals the show. :p

As you answered for me, and that I like Goseiger (although I can't back you on Kyoryuger mate, I think that show is crap), I'd say Go-Busters is great from the first episode...wait wait wait wait there.

I'm not saying it's the perfect season, or that it's great from start to finish but the first block of episodes introduce a lot of stuff unique to Go-Busters (or at least what Go-Busters tries differently) and sets up the world and characters. From the sentai I've seen (which is admittedly little) Go-Busters has more than your average sentai when it comes to world building, continuity and characters.

Once the world and characters have been introduced (which is roughly between 10 - 15 episodes) that is when the show starts going through the motions a lot more (although the two new sixths added are awesome) and it's really this middle block where the show will probably make or break you, much like Shinkenger.

I've only made it through one episode (but will watch it all eventually), but I'll have to say Goonger. Just was not impressed with the first episode.

Thank you Locke, Suzu, everyone else.. but I've decided! Sentai's watching Shinkenger!

Shinkenger is one of my favourite sentais, after Jetman and Go-Busters but the middle section of Shinkenger (and we are talking like twenty episodes) is so BORING. Plus Genta is easily the worst sixth ranger in the entire franchise, I'm serious. Not only is he an awful character, he is completely out of place in this show and ruins every moment he is included in.

Which is ironic because Antonio made Samurai better.

Well minus the hideously tacky suit, and the stupid fish sword, there was nothing wrong with Shinkengold's fighting. It was just everything about him out of suit that sucked ass.

And it's a shame too because when he is first introduced he holds so much promise, but about five episodes later you just want him to commit seppuku.

Samurai beats Shinkenger for me because of how it handled the Red situation.

How so? I don't agree with you, but I'm curious as to why you think Samurai did it better.

Of course. Because ruining an important plot point makes Samurai the better show. :rolleyes

To me having them be siblings made more sense*shrugs*

Really? But that ruins the whole reveal/cheapens the reason why Jayden left compared to Takeru.

Takeru struggled the whole series about the fact that the rest of the Shinkengers were willing to risk their lives for him, especially when they became more protective when they learned that he 'only person who knew/could learn the secret seal' that could defeat Doukoku. But that was a lie and Takeru had to deal with the guilt of deceiving the people started to see as friends so they would(in his opinion) die in vain(since his death would not end the Shiba line, and the false sense of security the Gendousho would get by thinking they took care of the Shiba line could be used to the Shiba clans advantage). His life meant nothing, he was just a stand in who would risk his life as a kagemusha(which is a long tradition in Japan's history) but until he meet the others that was the only value he saw in his life.

When Kaoru came back and it was clear that he was no longer needed he lost all meaning to his life, he was groomed from childhood for that role and knew nothing else, coupled with the fact that he now had to face up to the fact that he had been lying to the others it was no wonder he almost broke and was easily tempted by Juzo to find the 'truth in the sword'.

Jaden on the other hand, yeah he had to lie about his position as head of the Shiba house, but that doesn't mean his life is any less important. He's the son of the former head and carries the blood of their family. If anything hapened to his sister then he would become the head officially and probably take up the task of learning the seal himself(sure his sister had an advantage of learning it in secret but that doesn't mean he can't). He is also the key to keeping the Shiba family continues on to fight another day. He didn't have to deal with the fact that a lie he said made his friends risk their lives and possible die for a "worthless life" like Takeru. And the fact he left because he felt the team 'didn't need him anymore' because they had his sister just felt like such a weak excuse compared to Takeru who felt he didn't deserve to fight with them because he was not from a Samurai family and his lies made him unworthy to fight with his friends.

Okay rant over, I know taste is subjective but while I manage to sit through Power Ranger Samurai and Super Samurai(as hard as it was)...but this whole change just made me want to reach in the screen and strangle Jayden. The truth behind the real head of the Shiba clan was not only the best episodes of Shinkenger(IMOP) but watching the series again not only do you get to see the hints but how the knowledge of that secret affect Takeru as the series progresses(it was a really great idea having Tori Matsuzaka know about the reveal the whole time, it added so much more depth to his performance)

How mature was Shinkenger? I really haven't heard much from others I know about it, but always wondered.

Imagine if the Samurai Cast was entirely Japanese and only spoke Japanese. Now imagine the violence going up to "Holy Crap! Do the Japanese really think this is suitable for children?!" levels. Okay? Now shove both PR seasons into a one year run and trade Jayden's plot twist for Takeru's.

It's about that mature. Remember, Samurai was cut-and-past translation with a few drastic edits here and there. Remember when Xandred wanted to flood the Sanzu with the tears of kids who lost their favorite toys? IIRC, in Shinkenger, it was a ritual sacrifice of young girls.