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My bad. :o

Oh man it's so hard not to derail the conversation when people just casually throw out opinions and I have no clue what they're talking about though.

Anyway, I can agree with the overall sentiment here. It's the same way I'm curious what another Riku Sanjo Sentai would look like if he decided/was told to actively focus on the whole team equally.

You think that's bad, I still want him to write another Kamen Rider. :p

What IS Inoue doing these days? I've literally heard nothing about his career after Decade.

I'm not really sure about the Rider thing, as I think he only can go down as far as that's concerned, judging by the way his Post-Agito shows went, getting progressively worse. Doesn't necessarily mean they're shit, but the trend is definitely downward overall.

I know they brought him in to write the Kamen Rider 1 movie, other than that I have no clue.

EDIT: dangit, Lucha! :lol

So yeah, there you have it. He's pretty active, apparently.

He wrote some Garo stuff for his BFF Keita Amemiya, and he wrote all of Shougeki Gouraigan (also for Amemiya).

Most recently, he wrote the Kamen Rider 1 movie with the Dark Knight-ified Ichigou. Immediately before that he was the head writer for the anime, Ushio and Tora.

He keeps himself pretty busy these days.

He did that one episode featuring Jetman on Gokaiger, he was part of Shougeki! Gouraigan, Garo Makai Senki, wrote the Kamen Rider 1 movie this year, wrote the OOO section of OOO vs W Movie Taisen, supervised some of the recent Kamen Rider novels and writing the Ryuki novel himself, apparently also revised that strange Kamen Rider Faiz novel too(or his dark and messed-up nsfw reimagining to be exact *shudder*). Oh yeah he also wrote the Kuuga manga that started a year or two ago.

I'm a fan, what can I say? :lol

I think he'd be great for Kyuranger, especially given his extended break from weekly toku shows. He'd probably come back refreshed with a lot of new ideas.

But yeah, I don't see it happening. There are too many cooks in the Toei Toku kitchen these days. From what I recall, rumor at the time was he had a bad creative experience with Kiva & Decade (something to do with being forced to integrate a whole bunch of toys?) and hasn't spearheaded a Toei toku since because of that.

Here's my list of 10 things to NOT mess up Kyuranger

10. Try give each Ranger a different personality

9. Make the villain more interesting

8. No Predictable Storyline

7. Hired a more experienced writer

6. Make the show CHARACTER-DRIVEN

5. Bring Back The HUMAN Villains! Back in old school, Most of Lead Villains are Humans! Humans can be a bad guy too! I don't mean actually humans but how about Humanoid Villains?

4. Add Signalman-Type Hero since they cannot add Tenth Ranger. Hello! The show is called Nine Ranger! NOT Ten Ranger

3. Don't rushed the story

2. Try balance the comedy and drama

1. Don't make it too Red-Centric show. Again! You got NINE RANGER!

their mentor be ten ranger - he is keeper of those crystals
lock those villians

That's not unlikely, although I also suspect you're a little bit of... I'm not sure what's an appropriate term. "Gadfly" and "contrarian" are off; I suspect you enjoy finding the value in underappreciated works and the flaws in well-loved shows.

As to the former thought, the first Sentai I finished was Shinkenger. I felt it was terrific, but my friend who has a much deeper Sentai background found the show to be mostly shrugworthy. I've seen 10-ish more Sentai series since then, and I think I understand now.

I hadn't appreciated how much *cribbing* the show did from its predecessors. This in itself isn't a big deal (which Sentai hasn't done a body-switch episode?), but with the exception of Dayuu and Fuwa Juzo, the villains were pretty bland, and there wasn't much of an attempt to tell long-form stories. (The twist near the series finale came out of nowhere and for me, it didn't have much impact.)

I don't think Shinkenger was a bad series. It had a relatively strong cast whose characters were drawn reasonably well, the show oozed style, and it mostly wasn't burdened by toys *too* ridiculous. With that said, now that I've seen Gekiranger and Magiranger, I'm much less impressed with Shinkenger. In my head, I've downgraded it from "terrific" to "good." When I was watching Ninninger (and being mostly unimpressed by it), I nevertheless suspected I'd enjoy it more if I hadn't seen so many better Sentai series. I rank Ninninger not as an irredeemably bad show, but as the worst Sentai I've watched. I nevertheless watched the entire thing, and I enjoyed parts of it.

I haven't followed tokusatsu writers enough to know who I hope will be running Kyuranger. Riku Sanjou confuses me, having produced shows I loved and, um, did not love. I don't want Ninninger's writer anywhere near a show I watch again. (This may be unfair. Some of my problems with the show come down to a few weak cast members. Then again, a show with a red hero played by a poor actor probably shouldn't pursue the "fetishize the red hero" trope.)

Kyuranger's unprecedented cast size implies unprecedented potential, and I just don't want it written by someone content to produce a show that's mostly filler. Zyuohger's recent episodes (well, prior to the last two, which I haven't seen) has given me some cause for optimism after the last two Sentai disappointed me, and I really want our constellation Sentai to continue an upward trend.

After her last few shows, I'd be more hopeful for new cast members if Takebe isn't the producer. She seems to enjoy picking people who didn't make the cut for previous shows or people she personally knows. (which I think can sometimes lead to less than inspiring performances)

As far as the writer situation...

Over the last two years, it looks like Toei has been in the midst of transitioning their two regular secondary writers to head writer positions. Komura and Shimoyama have written more episodes as fill in writers than anyone else in Toei's stable. We're probably going to see Shimoyama again sometime soon if only because their current stable of head writers has shrunk. It's actually very interesting if you look at credits over the last five or six years.

There have been about 11 writers on all of Sentai since Gokaiger, secondary or head, and of those, the two regular secondary writers have become head writers. The only other semi regular person is Nobuhiro Mori, who did episodes for Go-Busters and Ninninger. (14 in total, plus a crossover special) I think it's possible Mori becomes the writer on Kyuuranger if Toei wants to keep that transition rolling. Mori has written more for Kamen Rider but it seems like Toei likes stunt hiring for Rider's writer position, so I could realistically see Mori as head writer on Sentai in the near future. There's a new writer doing secondary episodes for Zyuohger, but I don't know that Toei would want to give someone that head writer credit after just a handful of episodes if they don't have some sort of pedigree in the manga or anime world.

I still wanna push for Kobayashi to come back but she doesn't seem to do Sentai these days without Utsunomiya as the producer and he's doing Zyuohger, so chances are high on him returning so soon.

If you wanna take a guess at potential producers, Sentai has only had three in the last six years:

Takaaki Utsunomiya: Gokaiger, ToQger, Zyuohger
Naomi Takebe: Go-Busters, Ninninger (and these both bombed so I dunno how realistic a choice she is)
Takahito Ohmori: Kyoryuger (is working on Ex-Aid so I'd say he's out)

Since Toei producers will often do Sentai and Rider, also in play is:

Kazuhiro Takahashi: Ghost (but it looks like he was removed from the head producer position, so, again, not sure how realistic this is)


So! The choices for producer are 1)Someone whose only Sentai have sported toylines that completely bombed 2)Someone who was, in all likelihood, taken off the job late in the game on his first series and 3)Someone who is doing the current show and a back to back producer has not happened in a really, really long time.

Creatively, Sentai is not in the most enviable position for choices.

Of course after two years of shows and toylines doing badly, Toei could hit us out of left field with someone like Toshiki Inoue as writer.

In addition to what Lucha mentioned, he's writing a manga called Sword-Gai, which is getting an anime adaptation later this year. (it runs in the same magazine as the Kuuga and Ultraman manga)

I got a fun question

If you have to take a guess of what will be NINE Ranger's personality, What will be their personality

According to the official synopsis that 9 Ranger with a Strong Personality

I've been thinking, what if orange, silver, gold, pink are voice only?
So in other words, The main five will be actual people actors while the B squad are more like Torin or Beet J Stag.
Probably could crank out a Pinocchio-ish episode if they wanted to as well where one of them feels like they don't belong on Earth and want to look human, only to have things go haywire.

I don't know about Pink Ranger, Orange Ranger and Silver Ranger being completely ROBOT! but I like the idea of Gold Ranger being android like Pinocchio-type character

I have a feeling that Kyurangers could be ancient warriors awakened by the tear of innocent people because the official synopsis

Think about it! Kyuranger are bascially what if Zyuranger were a space warrior instead of dinosaur warrior!

zyurangers are dinos warriors and mmprs1 base on zyuranger

I don't think it's unreasonable to hope for Kobayashi. She has written two of the last 5 series, so it's not like she's been gone long enough to have completely moved on. Amazons 2 is really the question mark, but maybe writing is complete for that? She's an incredibly prolific writer, so her pulling double duty might not be that unreasonable either.

I honestly think we have more reason than usual to hope for a left-field candidate too. So much about Kyuranger is risky and unusual (9 warriors to start, a premise that seems to have the earth already under evil alien rule when the heroes are assembled), and I wouldn't be surprised if that oddness carries over to the creative staff.

I really can't wait till all is revealed. This year more than usual.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we got someone new to write. Kyuranger so far seems very much like an attempt by Toei to breathe some fresh air into Sentai, and getting a writer we haven't seen before would make sense for that.

Yeah I agree with that one! It seem Toei decides to take a risk with Super Sentai by making 9 Ranger Show! In last years, They always play safe with Super Sentai and now they want to make Kyuranger very unique and different than Recent Super Sentai

I'd always be in for Kobayashi because she is extremely good at writing characters. And having 9 heroes alone to flesh out, she might be the best one for the job.
I mean, she managed to breath life into the relatively big cast of the Sailor Moon Toku, heroes, villains and civilians alike, something which no other author in the Sailor Moon franchise ever could manage quite like her.

And if she does pen this show it will be the second time an orange ranger is in her show. :)

I am not a big fan of her Sentai work. I liked Riku Sanjou from Kyoryuger and KR Drive, I'd love him to do this.

Oh No! I thought Drive was NOT that Bad but Kyoryuger was a mess!

He made the show TOO MUCH RED-CENTRIC SHOW! And Daigo was Marty Stu. He was too perfect! I am so glad Riku Sanjo is taking a break from writing Toku Show in order to write his Manga thing

Don't let that man touch Kyuranger!

Yasuko Kobayashi is also working on the second season of Attack on Titan next year, so I think we can maybe rule her out of the running.

Riku Sanjo's manga is on hiatus again but there is that "wait until Spring 2017 for a big announcement" message he left with readers with so...that could be anything. The return of the manga or even a new anime. (which would require less of his involvement)

That said, Sanjo claimed he was taking a break from TV writing at the end of Drive, I wonder if a year and a half away from it would have been enough of a break for him.

Why would Toei want Riku Sanjo to write Kyuranger? He doesn't know to handle the team! He treated Other Kyoryugers as Daigo's sidekicks than his comrades!

The reason of why Kyoryuger failed because most of their episodes were written by Riku Sanjo by himself! That's how Faiz failed because most of their episodes were written by Toshiki Inoue by himself!

I don't want a show where most of their episode were written by One Writer! It just doesn't work! I know Amazons which I believe most of their episodes were written by Yasuko Kobayashi but that show was longer than any show!

Kyoryuger didn't fail. It was the most successful Sentai in over 10 years. People enjoyed the characters (at least in Japan) and it was a hugely successful year for Sentai.

Oh really? Daigo was Marty Stu! He was too much perfect and Amy suddenly end up become his girlfriend for NO Hinted at it! Some fans even called Kyoryuger, "Daigo Sentai Kingranger"

Successful? I heard their toy sale was worst than Go-Busters' Toy Sale!

I heard they actually exceeded Go-busters during 3Q and annual sales surpassed Gokaiger.
And 200,000 Kyoryujin were sold until summer of 2013.

I'm not sure where you heard this, but that's not the case.

Kyoryuger sold 14.0 billion yen. Super Sentai during Go-Busters sold 9.6 billion yen, and this is with three Sentai toy lines in that year. (Go-Busters, Akibaranger, and the continued Gokaiger keys)

There are literally only two Sentai that have recorded better sales, Gaoranger at 14.5 billion yen and Ohranger at 15.9 billion yen.

i waiting for villians , etc

Vin, just because you didn't like Kyoryuger didn't mean that it wasn't a success. And what is it with you and that show anyway? We get it, you hate kyoryuger, you bring it up every other post.

Time to move on man.

I at least want Koichi Sakamoto to Direct the series. Koichi and Space are always a good mix.

I also wouldn't mind some new blood working on it.

fun fact: ALL of Kobayashi's Sentai have more than one Red Ranger.

Do you accept Dark Red Buster too or just Time Fire and Shinken Red Kaoru? I guess Hyuga/Bull Black is kinda out the picture since he never got to wear what was supposed to be his Ginga Red threads.

I'm worried about the 9-person team. Lately Sentai have been focusing on Red WAY too much, that having 9 Rangers don't mean anything if Red gets the focus all the time.

I'd say those two definitely count. Gingaman was her first series as head so I'd say her style wasn't set in stone yet but the Ryoma/Hyuga has all the trappings of her future "two red rangers" plots. ToQger's a bit of an outlier because there weren't story implications for two red rangers. (and technically it was five in there haha)

Yeah, even Gokaiger had two separate Shinken Red ranger keys.

I've always thought this was the dumbest criticism.

Because Daigo had more screentime than the rest, the show is bad? That just doesn't make sense. Kyoryuger is well paced, it has a lot of compelling characters, a deep mythology, a reverence for Sentai's history, and action that blows any show that's come after it out of the water.

But because Daigo, a totally likeable character performed by a charismatic actor, steals the show everything good about it is irrelevant? Yeah... I've just never understood that argument. :lol

I understand preferring a show that more evenly distributes focus across the whole cast. Personally, as long as the story is well told, I don't care who the show chooses to focus on. There are 39 other shows that chose to focus on allocating time to the whole team. Not all Sentai can, or should, be exactly the same, and Kyoryuger's Daigo-centric approach gives the franchise more variety.

Kyoryuger is not my favorite Sentai, but it's still totally solid. I can only imagine Riku Sanjo's second at-bat in the Sentai head writer's seat would be even better.

Kyoryuger isn't bad because of Daigo.
That doesn't mean it's not a bad show, however.

Let's keep this about KyuRanger, before I have to go defend up the wazoo Kyoryuger. lol

I am curious as to what the gimmick behind the civilian names will be if they plan on it. Always a joy to look for those.
Maybe the first letters of their name in English will spell out ASTROLOGY or something of that nature.