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I mentioned before that the pattern of Takahashi (assuming that's who PortalTron is referring to) every 3 years should stop, but if it's really going to be him again this year, then my only hope is that they add secondary writers like in Zero One. Producer Minato did Gotchard and that had a lot of writers, so hopefully him being involved might, just might, keep Zeztz from falling in to the burnout trap of previous Takahashi shows and the bad pacing trap of Ohmori shows.
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I?m worried how the writings of the new season will work out.
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Also, some more news, I think: Zeztz is organic looking, in a similar style to Hibiki or S.I.C. designs. Secondary is mechanical looking. Supposedly this may be a rough sketch of the design of Zeztz body: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtoQ82IbQAAsmgG.jpg Granted, this may be one long Telephone game, as the "leaks" at the start have been pretty different to now. Although given that Zeztz' design will most likely be officially revealed soon, so these are most likely more accurate. EDIT: Another piece of info is that Zeztz' gimmick items (and Driver) look to be very cheap in price. Moreso than previous years. |
I seriously hope the Takahashi rumor isn't true...
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Given that there are some additional rumors of a possible spy theme (like, dream infiltration like Inception), Shogo Muto would be a cool pick considering the earlier Build episodes had some similar concepts. |
Yeah, count me in as someone who doesn't need another Takahashi season so soon, and I say this as someone who has enjoyed every Rider show of his that I've watched.
I don't need another season where they phase out Kaijin just so we can get more Rider vs Rider. Though kind of surprised this seems like such a throwback from the design of Zeztz to the bike design. Makes me wonder if the villains are going to be some kind of riff on Shocker or the villain Riders will basically be like Shocker Riders. |
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Honestly, I'd love to see Muto write another Rider show. Build was one of the GOATs. |
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Muto is probably busy as we speak writing the Samurai Troopers/Ronin Warriors sequel that's expected to start airing in Japan next January. And yes, Muto already had a hit show pre-Build with the Densha Otoko tv drama during the 2000s. As for Takahashi, looks like he's done anime stuff as well, notably the recent Lupin the Third shows and movies. Quote:
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I have 0 problem with Yuya Takahashi lol, I really don't understand the people in the fandom saying things like "Takahashi is the best, but I'm so tired of him"... All his shows are mad different (with some obvious similarities), and the concept sounds sick. I'm not worried at all.
Is everyone just afraid it will be a repeat of previous over-used writers? IDK, maybe I'm over-interpreting it, but it seems like a uni-lateral cry of "Oh NO! what if they overuse Takahashi!?!" IMO this is one of the more promising sets of rumours I've ever read. The design sounds interesting, the concept sounds interesting, writer wrote my 2 fav rider shows of the last decade (possibly ever), and add to that referencing Paprika? Not long after getting into toku i had a concept for a rider-adjacent toku character who goes into peoples dreams, so this is a potential ...ahem... dream come true for me lol |
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Oh, I know that! I had the same thing with Saber. So I was very disappointed with the unflattering reception of its first episodes. But in the end, the show turned out even better than I could have expected, so good luck. Audiences often change their minds. |
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Based on that show, I think Takahashi would be great on an official Sentai. |
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For me, I still don't really like Inoue's favorite tropes, while I really like Takanashi's favorite tropes more. And yea, the seasons he wrote for are very different from each other, it's just that everyone is just too focused on the similarities than the differences. My problem with Zeztz so far is that he might be grasshopper-themed. We've had two main Riders with grasshoppers as their main theme (01 and Gotchard), and I really wish we could get back to off-the-wall ones, since Gavv was such a nice breath of fresh air from having 5 straight animal-themed seasons. |
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Yeah I don't think many people oppose Takahashi as a writer in general, people are just justifiably feeling a bit burned out at this point (and Takahashi himself might be too). I mean think about it. If he is the head writer for Zeztz the guy will have have cropped up as head writer again every 2 years for about a decade!
I say this most years, but I either want someone new to write or have a returning writer we haven't seen in a while. |
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In terms of tropes, while Inoue's weakest point is the finales, Takahashi's is the 30th episodes. That period is generally considered the worst point in a year-long show, but when you look at the entire franchise, it's actually in Takahashi's work when it's really bad. Other writers handle it better, if not great.
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My concern isn't that he's grasshopper themed. And I'm not a dumb enough idiot that I don't know that grasshoppers have been an integral part of Kamen Rider motifs since the literal first series (why else would the majority of them have bug-like compound eyes?). My concern was that we only just had one off-the-wall Reiwa season with Gavv being a candy/snack-themed Rider. And that I wanted more off-the-wall seasons before getting another primarily animal-themed season. Like you focused on the wrong part. This is the main takeaway of what I said here, bold and underlined: Quote:
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So I can get why Takanashi was beginning to be impatient with Keiwa and Sara's arc in the 30s, with Takebe telling him to push Sara's death further and further back. Neither are wrong, but neither are right. |
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I feel like saying that "the reaction to them is like most of audience hasn't seen seen anything beyond the first ten Riders" is a little condescending? Like people always gush about the suits and seasons they love (which might come off as an overstatement for some). Also, I don't really think it's fair trying to rank each season's uniqueness, either. Like Den-O's uniqueness isn't really comparable to Gavv's. Each one does something different, even if there're common tropes (which is a symptom of a long-running franchise than it is of the writers, really). |
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That's why I find the tendency to oversimplify or, rather, categorically classify shows into one camp or another strange. The same thing is observed with the division into scientific and mystical riders, although in the shows themselves it is often difficult to draw such a line; and into dark and light shows, which, by and large, is completely delirious. And now the idea that Faiz is a fun show sounds like sacrilege. Although Faiz is a fun show. I mean, I have a feeling that many people, even if they don't think in binary, at least express their thoughts in that way. So I guess I want the nuances not to be ignored and to get the attention they deserve. Something like that. I hope I conveyed my thoughts clearly enough. Quote:
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What I said and meant was that some people are now treating Takanashi like how Inoue was in the past; a recurring writer who's becoming more divisive due to the common tropes they use. Quote:
I feel like that's what people are missing from what I'm saying whenever I try to clarify it. Like constantly. I have flatout said before that "I want there to be more main Riders that have obvious unique themes that aren't obviously animal themed, but if they do, that it's subtle instead". Hell, I can even literally just say "While I do love [insert season with obvious animal theme, like Gotchard or Geats], I just wish there were more unique themes instead of overt animal themes," and people would respond with "Actually animals have always been a major motif in Kamen Rider" or the like, as if I didn't know. It a little insulting that people seem to miss the point I'm making or focus on the wrong part. And it's exhausting for me having to reiterate this point so often. Like with Riders with confirmed animal motifs, there's always at least something that catches your eye more than the animal motif. For example, with Double, I don't just think "grasshopper", I think more about how he's half-and-half with a giant W on his head (instead of having grasshopper antenna). Compare that to 01, where I just go "Yea, he's a grasshopper alright". At this point, I feel like I said enough about what I hope and wish to see more of, so I think I'm just gonna drop this topic altogether now. No point in dragging it out. Quote:
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Personally I would appreciate it if the writing is more or less as consistent as Geats'. But maybe with a better main villain.
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Regardless of writer and motif, I hope the rumor about form changes being on the simpler side is true, since I tend to prefer simple changes for the normal forms with more in-depth changes being reserved for super and final forms
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You would think after Donbrothers, everyone would remember that Inoue is secretly one of the funniest writers Toei has ever had on these shows. I still think about the tennis gag from 555 from time to time.
But I am going to join the chorus and hope Takahashi isn't the head writer. Geats to me was aggressively average and Outsiders flat-out sucked. Zeztz could easily become another Kiva, although the advanced filming schedule might work to his advantage without having to worry too much about retools. |
I had a theory today.
In the Majade Girls special, there was that one girl who tried to transform but could not. We ended up getting a silhouette of what the form looks like. What if that form is actually Zeztz? |
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Sorry.:o |
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Speaking of theories, here's what came to mind. Recently (and actually quite a while ago) there was a report about Toei's Napoleonic plans, including more attention to foreign audiences, cooperation with Chinese companies, the creation of new heroes, etc. I don't know how much of this they will actually manage to implement (and I'm almost certain that they won't succeed in all of it). But what if the frequent return to the grasshopper theme lately is part of this strategy to make KR more distinctive? After all, the riders have long since turned from cyborg motorcyclists into simple superheroes with a variety of themes, and if Toei has plans for theoretical New Metal Heroes, the difference between the franchises should be more noticeable. |
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Congrats on your 1300th post! |
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And honestly, with Gotchard I was more concerned that his final form would've just been another boring upgrade of the base form. So I'm glad we got Rainbow Gotchard, way more interesting. And hot take, Iron Gotchard is way cooler than Platina Gotchard). Quote:
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Like, "Oh cool, there's 13 Demon Races in Kiva? That sounds interesting, I wonder- Oh, 5 of them are extinct, and 3 of them only have 1 survivor. Alright.", or "Oh, they have a unique version of Zenkaisesr? I wonder what his deal is- Oh they never address this, not even in the crossover movie". Ironic that I like Akiko Inoue's writing more, even if she shares some of her father's favorite tropes. I just find her writing to be more bearable because she actually balance the comedy out with interesting worldbuilding. |
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