Maybe because until now the original date of creation of the another rider was during the origin year of the rider ? But Amane will be infected in present time while Blade is still active in that year (just a theory though, i'm too lazy to rewatch all Zi-O episode to see if that logic is debunked by a previous episode already).

Still the world pretend they don't exist and so does the main trio treating past riders as normal. I'm not asking for chanting or worship, but at least acknowledge them correctly,

Holy shit they're still doing tributes and are doi fucking BLADE? God that's amazing

Well of the 19 Ridewatches we know Oma Zi-O had, Sougo has 11:

Kuuga, Faiz, Decade, W, OOO, Fourze, Wizard, Gaim, Ghost, Ex-Aid, and Build. He gets Ryuki's in Rider Time: Ryuki, and he's clearly getting Blade's next arc, bringing us to 13.

That leaves Agito, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O (despite Den-O and Another Den-O being in the film), and Kiva. He's missing 5.

Drive is the odd one out. Sougo possesses it, but its the one from the future, not the one that was actually created. Realistically, they have to close off that time loop by showing how that Ridewatch got made. So he's technically missing 6.

I just hope they don't botch this up. Blade was the show that made me a fan, it would be a shame for it to have a piss poor tribute episode

They still have five series that haven't gotten tribute episodes/were featured in the movie. Zi-O is a flawed series, but I'm pretty sure they are committed to making sure every show gets its moment.

Just wondering when they'll get to Drive, cause that's the only tribute left I care about.

I've been assuming that they're trying to get Shinnosuke's actor back, so they're putting off doing a Drive episode until they can get him in the studio or it becomes apparent that he's just not going to be available in time.

I do wonder what'll happen if they can't get him; a few of the tribute episodes have been weirdly placed, presumably because that's when the good returning actors have been available. But if we get a random tribute episode without Shinnosuke, could be quite odd.

If they're willing to break the "erased timeline" rules like they seem to be doing for the Blade arc, they might at least get him to voice a suit Drive in multiple shots and appear for one scene at some point.

It's one of the reasons that the history erasure plot was dumb since it made actor cameos harder and shorter than they could be.

Well, with Wizard and Fourze, they managed to get some other cast members while having stand-ins for Wizard/Fourze themselves, so I could see them doing that if they can't get Ryoma Takeuchi in time. Alternatively, with all the time shenanigans going on, they could bring Eiji Tomari back into the fold to represent Kamen Rider Drive.


I mean, I'd rather see Shinnosuke come back proper, but it's better than nothing, considering he's the only post-Decade Rider without a tribute (not including W, who at least got some attention during the movie).

Still holding out hope for something W with Suda saying he was interested but couldn't due to being booked fully for two years. I wanna see my boy(s) back on screen for a cameo damn it.

I'm surprised they couldn't at least get Renn Kiriyama, though I imagine he's likely in a same situation as Masaki Suda where he's just all booked up.

Renn Kiriyama is almost as big a Kamen Rider fanboy as Masahiro Inoue is.

I doubt they even tried to get them back, really. Heisei Generations Forever feels like it was a case where they only tried to get one big actor, so after getting Takeru Sato there was no need for any other guest aside from some quick voice cameos.

Well, if they can't get Shinnosuke they could always try for Gou or Chase. There are still a few Riders to go through before they start going the Fourze route and digging up supporting characters.

I am amazed Kiriyama hasn't come back yet. I assume that he has a W Driver on a table near his front door, just in case Toei calls him up on short notice.

It's either that or I'm assuming they wanted both Suda and Renn, which I can understand but eeh. If they can squeeze in Suda for a voice recording session they can always have a body double for Philip

Or stock footage and stock audio. I know they've used stock audio before at least.

They used stock audio for Gaim in Heisei Generations and reportedly used stock audio for the suit-only Riders in Heisei Generations Forever too (aside from the ones actually credited to their actors like Decade), although I'd wait for the home release before saying that for sure.

They also had Shotaro by himself in Kamen Rider Taisen though, and that was actually a Shirakura movie too. As far as Forever goes, I really think that once he got Takeru Sato he didn't bother going after any other actors, which is why he's the only guest that appears on screen (rather than voice-only) while other movies had more.

I would like another rider time for kabuto or blade instead of ryuki, but even say its not a self contain sequel epilogue because tsuki and crew are relevant in the 3 part specials. Fourze and kuuga didn't make actual appearance and so did wizard, so zio will never be the series that truly united all 19. It would be messy if shocker and Showa Join in like decade. So for me it's, 19 another riders, 19 real main rider/secondary rider appearances, and 19 ride watches. Some did all 3. Some did 2 like fourze and 1 like decade. Decade somehow became a boss like blade coming back with leather and sunglasses way out of character during the decade finale.

Most of 10 or 11 with decade return in some forms in the last 5 years via taisen, xmas vs, or specials tie in like blade and faiz. Ryotaro is a w phillp replacement. He's quite famous with death note, some sleazy adult work, etc. it's like disney stars, the male and female toku vet went on do more adult stuffs in future or in past using toku as stepping stone. It's a good debut series to get your name out. Anyway, Tendou said he wasn't invited back when he reply to a fan on instagram according to some news i read and kabuto/boukenger is always the forgotten anniversary compares to 2000 and 2010 as well as 2015. I would like to see gattack again since he's a fan of the toys during the csm promo. The drive cast is immensely popular now and kiriko is in dramas now with shinkenpink, so no 10 years shinkenger. I don't see them returning. It would be funny if mr.belt is still a belt.

Kuuga, Agito, hibiki, kabuto, kiva, w, fourze, wizard, and drive need to make an appearance. Deno is just a movie exclusive cameo. Ryuki, faiz, blade, deno, decade, os, gaim, ghost, exaid, and build made an appearance in zio. Zio possess 10 Neo heisei, kuuga, faiz, and decade. Blade and ryuki are unknown so far. Agito, hibiki, kabuto, and kiva are ones that need some sort of relevance or tribute via another, watches, or straight up cameos.
Kuuga- receive the watch after using the form, fought another kuuga,No Joe
Agito-N/A watch, N/A appearance, no another
Ryuki-N/A watch, but ryuki time will fix that despite already did a ryuga two parters.
Faiz- Accomplished all 3
Blade-we'll see if the watch is created or not. Did 2.
Hibiki-N/A for 3
Kabuto-N/a for 3
Deno-No watch despite fighting another deno with Ryotaro in the movie?
Kiva-N/A for 3
Decade-the special watch he created himself?
W-did 2/3. I don't see a w special, but there's ghost and ryuga, so there's hope.
Os-done all 3.
Fourze-Extra staff replace fourze.
Wizards-Beast replace Haruto offscreen.
Gaim-done all 3.
Drive-geiz possess it. No tomari. No another drive.
Ghost-done all 3 despite geiz already possess it.
ExAid-done all 3
Build-Done all 3
Zio-surprisingly done all 3.

Yes yes yes to Chalice, Amane, and Kenzaki coming back!

Looking forward to this!
And Diend too? All the yes!

If rumors are anything to go by, apparently some twitter user saw them filming an episode with Agito, apparently relating to Trinity.

I had my doubts about if we were going to see the phase 1 Riders get any spotlight outside of Ryuki and Faiz but at this point they have a cheap way to not need suits for Phase 1 forms thanks to the Decade Ridewatch.

I think as far as the writers are concerned Heisei Gens Forever was Den-O's, Kuuga's and Double's tribute ( Double was meant to be the big surprise come back but when they found out Suda was booked up they changed focus onto getting Den-O's actor back). But for all we know the Summer movies bring back the last remaining actors, I'm just gonna enjoy the ride and scream loudly at 1:30 am every time they anounce a new returning actor in the episode preview.

You know, Agito being involved with Trinity makes perfect sense considering Agito had Trinity first

I really want Overlord of Darkness are appeared in Agito Tribute Episode....

Shouichi's actor made a voice cameo in HGF, similar to Ryuki's, so I'm thinking he'll make a proper appearance in the show.

Better than his role in decade one sec cameo summer movie. Anyway, summer movie nowadays tries hard to fit in the continuity, but end up being worse, so I rather its an alternate ending or something else entirely. I'm curious if there's a movie exclusive form with ohma and jackers.

on the one hand I'm happy to get tribute episodes and some actors coming back until the end.
on the other hand it means the time jacker creating Another riders plot will be here until the end game and the overall story wouldn't develop much during the entire series.

Remember when we got one MOTW that wasn't an Another Rider? That was kind of weird.

I wouldn't be too surprised if we got a few more Another Riders, and Another Decade as a final-ish boss as some people have suggested could work. They're sort of going for inter-Rider conflict but with only 3 (sometimes 4) Riders, so I guess there's a limit to how far that'll go without repeating (which we kind of have already)

Just like gokaiger after 3/11 a lot of vet came back and villains get shafted, but like lupin and boukenger it's a character driven series full of fillers especially with gai.

How would you all work with tribute episodes of:
- Kuuga
- Agito
- Hibiki
- Kabuto
- Kiva
- Drive

It would seem to work, but it's speculation based only on those names and not really anything else. The Trinity watch is out this week, so it pretty much has to debut during the Blade arc. Whether an Agito arc is in the cards or not, I doubt it'll have much to do with it.

Would you picture Zi-O Trinity like Den-O Climax (Super) & Cross-ZBuild?

I'm really looking forward to the Blade tribute. Not just because I like Blade, but just because it's the only tribute so far to actually continue an ongoing plot line.

Maybe shocker, black rx will be brought back since toei is so guilty to draw nostalgic and make toku relevant to older folks as well aside from selling more gimmicks like SS 4 pts.

W. the three consciousness will fight each other out. Seriously, among the ones that are left i really want to see kabuto time vs zio time.

Don't forget the other riders in the other seasons too.

Hibiki: Needs a lot of work and maybe go Flashpoint on it.
Kabuto: How about Kagami/Gatack become Another Kabuto?
Den-O: We've seen Den-O. What about Zeronos?
Drive: As for Drive. Chase's actor retired. Get a new Drive and have Go return plus reviving Proto-Zero with a new face as the new Chase.

Ya know what? Go Flashpoint on Kuuga & Hibiki.

What about more future time watches with kiva and drive? Didn't both of those have future children in them at the end of kiva and in a drive special movie? There was one Kamen rider agito, but anyone could become an agito if they were given the agito gift so maybe they could do something with that although it would be difficult and I don't think the writers would do a good job unless they had a movie length episode time to do it.

Aside from Dark Drive and future Kiva; there's also Aqua and New Den-O

Future Rider Miridewatches like Dark Drive, Future Kiva, Aqua, and New Den-O probably will be released as Premium Bandai......