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ZeoRangerV 04-15-2015 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 512630)
I think your expectations were too high then.
Maybe they were *shrug*.

But a show that's supposedly a year behind schedule and is working to its own made up schedule gets less leeway than a weekly one.

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I've never seen a first episode where the animation was better than the last episode, even in anime.
Well regardless, that's how shows with limited runs (which Crystal had at the time of starting) work. Budget is poured into the beginning, not the end.

Evangelion would probably be the most famous example I guess.

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Poor animation is the least of Crystal's flaws.
It's definitely not my biggest problem with it, it's just the subject that came up.

Yellow Ranger 04-15-2015 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 512630)
I think your expectations were too high then.



I've never seen a first episode where the animation was better than the last episode, even in anime.



Poor animation is the least of Crystal's flaws.



I prefer the artwork of Crystal because I prefer the manga's artwork, but Crystal is a mixed bag because the manga was a mixed bad. The Black Moon Family story is absolute horse crap in the manga, so it is just as bad in Crystal. The four sisters had absolute no development and the first three chapters pointlessly gave a new soldier an upgrade just to have them captured at the end, which was bs. It served no purpose and was more annoying than tragic. I really feel like Naoko had no idea what she wanted to do here and was just scrapping from the bottom of the barrel here just to make it different from the Dark Moon Kingdom arc.

Thankfully, things will get better afterwards, especially when they get to the Dead Moon Circus. However, get read for really creepy gross scenes with Chibi-Usa after this arc is over.

The only thing I do truly like better in the manga/Crystal from the original anime is that Rei is not a bitch.
And here I thought that was only in the dic dub.:lol

WhiteRanger 04-16-2015 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 512734)
And here I thought that was only in the dic dub.:lol
Wait you FIC not know viz been redubing it

Yellow Ranger 04-16-2015 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger (Post 512805)
Wait you FIC not know viz been redubing it
No I know it got redubbed I just haven't gotten around to watching it.

Suzu 04-16-2015 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 512630)
The Black Moon Family story is absolute horse crap in the manga, so it is just as bad in Crystal. The four sisters had absolute no development and the first three chapters pointlessly gave a new soldier an upgrade just to have them captured at the end, which was bs. It served no purpose and was more annoying than tragic. I really feel like Naoko had no idea what she wanted to do here and was just scrapping from the bottom of the barrel here just to make it different from the Dark Moon Kingdom arc.
Considering that Sailor Moon was never planned to run as long as it did, this is actually pretty understandeable. Being asked to continue, Takeuchi rushed into the following arcs and you sometimes feel that.
Personally though, I never bothered about the Ayakashi sisters too much because not all villains need strong character development imho. They were meant to prove that there's a larger group of rebels from them Black Moon and show the Senshi that they still have to grow a lot more because they are not yet strong enough to take on upcoming threats. And they did just that. Yes, they were plot devices. But personally, I think those are needed too.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 512630)
Thankfully, things will get better afterwards, especially when they get to the Dead Moon Circus. However, get read for really creepy gross scenes with Chibi-Usa after this arc is over.
Creepy gross Chibi-Usa? What on earth are you talking about?

WhiteRanger 04-16-2015 05:15 AM
As along as I get to see the sailor sensei that were part of circus but where scouts I'll be happy

Dr Kain 04-16-2015 08:35 AM
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Creepy gross Chibi-Usa? What on earth are you talking about?
The fact that she starts to fantasize and dream about making out with Mamoru and stuff. She gets jealous of Usagi. That is her father, that is just utterly gross!!

Suzu 04-16-2015 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 512831)
The fact that she starts to fantasize and dream about making out with Mamoru and stuff. She gets jealous of Usagi. That is her father, that is just utterly gross!!
... My memory might be a bit rusty, but I don't remember that. She does kiss him as Black Lady, but I think that's even a dream Usagi has when she wasn't aware of Chibi-Usa being her daughter. oO

Dr Kain 04-16-2015 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzu (Post 512941)
... My memory might be a bit rusty, but I don't remember that. She does kiss him as Black Lady, but I think that's even a dream Usagi has when she wasn't aware of Chibi-Usa being her daughter. oO
I just read the manga a few months ago, so I have a fresh memory on it. Go to the SuperS arc especially.

Juliko 04-16-2015 08:27 PM
I was way too young when it was in its heyday, and I only remember seeing the SuperS movie when it was on Toonami, that's it. But I did watch the Japanese series in 2012, and finished it last year, before the new English dub came out. Trust me, the new English dub is 1 gabillion times better than the old dub, both in casting and scripting. Sailor Moon isn't my favorite, and it has its flaws, but I will say this: some parts of its fandom are super nice and kind. I've seen some toxic fans, but there's this forum I joined called The Galaxy Cauldron, and going there has done wonders for me, especially after my bad relationship with the Precure fandom. Anyone who's a Sailor Moon fan, please go there. The people there are warm, welcoming, accepting, and kind, and there's NO drama or SJWs!!!!!


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