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At least the rangers beat their set of villains. |
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Blah blah not about the destination, but the journey or something.
Anyway, I'm fairly interested to see Dairanger's ending, to see if it's as bad as you all say. Because, you know, Decade's ending is literally just reairing the Rider War footage from episode one... |
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Well, Decade had two chances for an ending and failed twice...
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If you think the DaiRanger ending is bad, you must not have seen the endings to DekaRanger, Goseiger, Go-Buster, Ryuki, Kuuga, 555, etc. And saying it is worse than Decade's ending is a crock of shit. Decade did not even have an ending, it just left off TBC. Neither of the movies that were supposed to follow up on the series even actually continued where the show left off.
And you seem to have missed the point of DaiRanger's ending. Yes, I agree, it could have been better. However, the series was about death and rebirth and that is exactly what the ending was about. Do you hate every Zelda game? Because technically, the battle never ends. Link, Zelda, and Ganon are always going to die and be reborn, so their better continues on no matter what. |
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PS I would probably agree with you on Dekaranger if I could stomach to finish it. PPS Can we please move on. This topic is getting more boring than an episode of Wizard. |
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And didn't you give Go-Busters a 7.5 in the Overall topic? I don't see how you can bash Wizard and praise Go-Buster. Go-Buster was as exciting as watching paint dry. |
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2) I didn't give a rating to GoBusters. I don't like rating fiction with numbers, it just doesn't work. If I had to order all the Sentais I've seen enough to form an opinion on in order of best to worst, Gobusters would be about halfway down the list. The only boring characters in GoBusters were the support staff and Escape. Everyone else (mostly Enter) was enjoyable to watch. |
My mistake Blade, I went back to the Overall thread and it was the guy above your post I read, not yours.
As for the show, I thought everyone but Enter was down right awful. Everyone else was bland, useless, and had absolutely no character development. |
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I completely disagree. Adding a more prominent villain to Dekaranger is exactly why SPD is a vastly inferior series by comparison.
Abrella is a great character because he spends half the series behind the scenes, and isn't there just for the sake of "conquest". I'd take him over most Sentai villains any day. |
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He ranks right up there with some of my favorite villains because he breaks that mold on what a typical villain is. |
I would just like to say that I watched Carranger episode 1 and outside of Gokaiger, easily had the most fun pilot I've seen in Sentai! I loved every second. I finally found my new series to watch.
Kid flying through the air on a tricycle had me in tears I was laughing so hard... |
Having not seen Dekaranger, take everything I say with a grain of salt.
That said, the issue might be scale. Being a weapons dealer, there is no real escalation of threat. There isn't a reason for this person to be climactic. He's exactly as you said. He's just a good stand alone villain. That logic allows for any given villain in Dekaranger to be the final, climatic villain. He may be different, but that doesn't mean he's succeeded as a character or a villain. Once again, I have yet to see Dekaranger, so I really have no idea what I'm talking about. Just making general observations. |
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I don't really see any trouble with Dekaranger's villains. It's a cop show; they fight various different criminals who all have their own agendas. I thought it was a nice change from having a central villain with an army of lackeys (I just wish the monster designs sucked less - only part of Dekaranger I didn't love). |
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Why Dekaranger sucks: 1) There's no plot, no subplot, no reason to care what happens next. It took the villain finally going "hey, I'm the villain" for the Dekarangers to even realize there was a villain. And this was 30 episodes in! This could've worked if they had a subplot of the Dekarangers knowing there's a villain, but don't have a face or name. I mean they're detectives! Of course that would require competent heroes, which brings me to my next point... 2) Incompetent characters. This might've been okay if these characters were untrained or forced into their roles, but these guys are trained and supposedly experienced. However, they are incompetent, at least the rangers they focus on the most. Especially Pink. Who the fuck hired this dumbass? She has no business being police officer much less a super powered space police officer. |
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You and I are now mortal enemies. |
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I felt there was a lot of potential Deka missed out on. BTW, SPD was inferior because of 70s reject Disco Skeletor. Quote:
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Finished watching episodes 10 and 11 Kakuranger. I am seriously enjoying the team's dynamic in the series so far. Until more english subbed episodes come in, I'm making a go-ahead and watch Carranger since I couldn't find any episode of Ohranger that are english subbed anywhere.
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There's a reason the "judge, jury and executioner" concept is usually used for darker, hardcore series such as Judge Dredd. It feels too contrived in a Super Sentai series, much less one that is as lighthearted as Dekaranger. I can't believe that some intergalactic high court can make such split-second judgments that we are to believe are infallible. It just stretches the limits of believability and paints the Dekarangers in a bad light (as I said, in a Judge Dredd sort of way). |
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SPD is a vastly superior series by comparison. They arrested their criminals rather than kill them on the spot. |
Considering all the villains they destroyed were known to have committed multiple atrocious crimes across the galaxy I see no problem with how they handled it. All the universal court does is confirm the crimes already committed and sentence the alienizers appropriately. Hell at the end of the day the court just approves the delete and they Dekarangers themselves choose to do it. They don't have to, but these were dangerous, wanted, criminals.
SPD is literally nothing when compared to the source material. Dekaranger is a far superior series with much deeper and more interesting characters than SPD could ever have. |
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My next series is now officially Dekaranger. |
Wow, this DekaRanger debate brings up some nostalgia. :D
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the show. I just felt let down by it because of its themes that went no where. I mean, they were space cops, they should have had episodes where they had to chase criminals to other planets, but instead, outside of the SWAT training episodes, everything was still on Earth. And then there was Ban and Umeko. I've already said Umeko is my least favorite pink ranger of all time, because she did not even appear to be a cop. I just felt she was there because it was take your children to work day or something. As for Ban, he was loud and obnoxious. He was always screaming at the top of his lungs no matter what he did and it just got plain out annoying. The rest of the show was enjoyable for being Cops in Spandex rather than being a Sentai series (hell, in this case, the Sentai does not even translate into Task Force, but some reason, Police), as there were some great villains that should have lasted more than 1-2 episodes (like the three siblings). It also did not help me that there seemed to be a million rangers around. Sure, it would make sense, since they are part of a police force, but they used that aspect for gimmicks rather than story telling. Again, I don't hate DekaRanger, I thought the series did some great things, but it had a lot of wasted potential and a sub-par ranger cast. |
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Besides, the capital punishment angle ultimately leads to episode 37, which is one of the most amazing half hours of Super Sentai ever. |
Episode 8 of Gekiranger, in which an older woman teaches Ran and Retsu how to improve their fingering technique while Jan just wants a little girl's meat.
... I'm a terrible person. :( |
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Outside of DinoThunder, I thought the Disney shows were down right dreadful, with OO being the worst. When they have to steal the Miser Brothers to be the villians, you know there is a problem.
I do not understand what went through their minds when it came to original villains. Saban gave us Zedd, Astronema, Trakeena, Ransik, and Master Orgu. Disney gives us Lothor, Grumm, Mr Snow (don't remember his actual name), and the ugliest actor they could find for Rio (never saw RPM, PR stopped being aired during JF around me). Mezogog was the only villain Disney gave us that felt like a villain, did not look ridiculous, and yet, they still managed to **** him up during his final battle. Not to mention they had some of the worst actors in the history of Power Rangers. Sure, acting was never the show's strong point, but the Ninja Storm cast, the OO cast, the MF cast, and JF cast actors were just terrible. It's like they found bums who needed work to do their acting. And why the hell did Doggie Krugger look like a lizard? Anyway, if I finish my Hitman playing tomorrow, I'm planning to start Jetman. |
I personally enjoyed SPD. That series was so much fun, with decent acting from the cast, and some interesting story lines and characters. Grumm was a tad disappointing, and I do prefer Doggie's Dekaranger suit, but that aside, I really didn't have much issue with it. I enjoyed watching it just as much as I did Dino Thunder or Wild Force.
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