A good example of the annoying cheesecake Digimon seems to thrive on. Angewomon and LadyDevimon are both humanoid girls so when they Jogress evolve they have to get up nice and close and KISS because lesbians are SO HOT! Ugh.

Nothing compares to the What The Fuckery of the female Beelzebumon though. It's actually embarrassing that that's an official Digimon.

Thanks to Tri I've gotten back into Digimon, I started collecting the original Super Evolution toys. Been only collecting for two months, I think I have a problem.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...pszylrvnbh.jpg

I have Kabuterimon/AtlurKabuterimon too but he's not pictired as he came reeking of cigarette smoke that I'm trying to get rid of. The best figure by far is the Jogress Evolving XV-Mon and Stingmon. It's actually quite amazing how accurate it can be both seperate and as Paildramon.

Still trying to track down Gargomon/Rapidmon, Guilmon/Dukemon, Combining Omegamon and Armor Evolving Fladramon and Pegasimon for decent prices.

Everyone's complaining about fanservice and here I am remembering Lilymon,Angewomomon and Lady Devimon from the original series.

They don't kiss. Watch it again. They look like they're about to but instead they just touch foreheads. And just so you know, lesbians aren't hot to me. Gay guys are. XD :lol

It's rather embarrassing that Lillymon is actually rather modestly designed in comparison to the likes of Mervamon.
I have never liked Angewomon, though.
Digimon has always had their cheesecake characters, but LadyDevimon was nowhere near as prominent as people think. They only remember her because "The catfight between her and Angewomon was hawt."
...Or she was just a memorable character. Whatever. Dominatrix demons aren't really too rare in anime, but I guess it would be a lot of people's first introduction to them...

Also, I used to have the Stingmon/XVeemon/Paildramon toy. It was awesome, but I lost it in a move. I'm envious of you :lol

Personally I'd rather have Angewomon and Lady Devimon kissing or Rosemon's boob jiggle over stuff like Kazemon when it comes to fanservice atleast the former are designed to be like adult women instead of being a 10-11 year old girl.

I wouldn't put Lilymon in the category personally, but don't get me wrong, it's been a thing since Day One.

We know what they want fans to thinks happening. As for the last part, that's nice and all, but doesn't have anything to do with anything. I'm gay and I can still identify bad fan service.

Yeah, Lilimon doesn't count. She's humanoid, but not recognizably human. What I like the least are the mons that are literally just a human girl in cosplay. Those aren't even monsters, they're the sexy Halloween costume version of monsters. Lilimon is not that, and so she is good (it is for this reason also that i do not even mind, say, Ranamon *that* much). And her design and clothes are not emphasising fanservise at all (tri made her more shapely, because tri, but still). She's just a flower fairy. There are other examples, but not her.

Really though, Yellow Ranger brought it up, but Frontier is pretty stupid about it specifically. Ice bear excluded, the human spirit Digimon are vaguely human looking Digimon in armor...except for Fairimon, who is just some girl in her underwear. Then the beast spirits are all, as the name implies, more beastly and monstrous looking monsters...except Shutumon, who is just a more voluptuous girl in her underwear. Way to go Frontier.

But yeah, it's always been a thing, doesn't make the fact that it keeps happening any less annoying though.

A third gay person on Tokunation?! Yay!!! I can identify bad stuff as well. But I also like to keep it as what it is. Sexual tension, yes. To be expected from a country that doesn't have as much suppression/repression as the US. But....I just lost my train of thought. Gods damn you Robot Chicken. DX

So I'm some 9 episodes into Savers. It's decent ish, I gotta say. Something of a sausage fest though. It's all about Masaru except when it's about Touma, in which case it's about Touma, except when it's about Masaru. Yoshino has done jack squat in these nine episodes, and Sunflowmon has been completely ineffective the very very few times she's been called on to do Anything. Even the first episode that actually was about Yoshino, with the one idol dude, ended up being more about Masaru, and in the end she was unable to do a single thing.

All kinds of bullshit, this is. Not even Izumi had it this bad, and Izumi had it pretty damn bad.

But, eh, I object to her treatment, but mostly on principle. If you can't even split focus in a matter even remotely resembling what one could call "equally" when there's just three main characters, you done fucked up somewhere.

On the other hand, I'm not really losing a lot of sleep crying about not seeing more of her. As a character, she's fairly uncompelling (though I may think this as a result of her dismal treatment; if we hadn't seen a few more sides to Touma by this point I probably would find him kind of a bore as well. They need to let her actually do something before I can start caring, and they haven't let her, at all), and I really do not like her voice--I guess her va was new or something? She's not very good. (i just looked it up, yoshino was like her only role ever. explains a lot. is not encouraging for my hopes of her possible eventual improvement though).

But eh, I can only hope this changes by the time Lilamon enters the picture. Which should be...episode 17? Man. And GeoGreymon evolves in 13? Jeez. Feels kinda early for Perfects to start showing up. Though looking it up I guess Tamers had them pretty early too. Guess I'm stuck thinking in Adventure terms. Guess it makes sense since they have to fit in not only the Ultimates but Burst Mode too for all of them...

Don't hold your breath for Yoshino and Lalamon to actually do anything. You'll end up suffocating.

I think part of what made Tamers seem like it waited a long time to introduce the Perfects was the fact that they used Evolution, especially early on, in general very sparingly. I think its noteworthy that while Growmon evolved into MegaloGrowmon in Episode 14, a mere 6 episodes after we saw Growmon for the first time, that was actually the first time we saw Growmon since his first appearance. Growmon was absent for 5 whole episodes and the episode after his first appearance he didn't even fight! Then after that we didn't see MegaloGrowmon again for another 6 episodes. Likewise Dukemon was missing for a good 9 episodes after his first appearance. Plus, like in Adventure, the existence of a new evolution didn't mean that you never saw the old evolutions again. Growmon didn't stop appearing once MegaloGrowmon appeared, in fact he only evolved in dire situations. Similarly in Adventure, MetalGreymon wasn't completely forgotten about once WarGreymon hit the scene.

The same can not be said for Savers. GeoGreymon appeared in (I'm fairly confident on this) every single episode since episode one and once RiseGreymon appears you never see just GeoGreymon again. The evolution sequences in Tamers are designed to follow each other straight away with no cutaway so from the first time GeoGreymon evolves Agumon goes straight into RiseGreymon, skipping GeoGreymon. Heck, in the dub they even called it "Warp Digivolve" because GeoGreymon is never seen again.

Ok I hear mix thing about saver one had I watched cause alot of people said Japanese dub was better and story was some what better and dub sucked what are you guys thoughts on it.

Hm. Well, that's a shame, but at least they're consistent.

And huh, man, I've completely forgotten how Tamers went :lol. I did remember Growmon didn't show up until episode 8, but all the details start getting foggy (the fact that the last time I saw it around 3 years ago I binged most of it in like 2 days probably doesn't help keep things distinct). I should really rewatch it one of these days.

And...dang. GeoGreymon actually was absent from the episode where Touma celebrates Masaru's sister's birthday, but other than that yeah, dude's everywhere. If they really just keep skipping evolutions that's kind of lame though...

I wouldn't be able to say. Data Squad was the one series I never saw at all (I think, I may have seen one episode while channel surfing at one point but I'm not sure) and until last week I hadn't touched Savers either. Hard to say.

It'd be hard to mess up Yoshino's voice though. As for script changes and stuff, I dunno.

Not that my experience with dubs would really be relevant anyway...I'm from Mexico, so while I watched the Adventures and Tamers and parts of Frontier dubbed, they were in Spanish. Which are from what little I know better dubs than the US got anyway, but I don't really know. We at least got translated theme songs instead of new ones, so that's one point in our favor...

Man, just hearing more Tamers makes me want to re-rewatch Tamers again :lol
God, I love that series.

Concerning Savers, if I recall, Sunflowmon wins one fight, maybe two...So don't expect much out of Yoshino and Lalamon until Rosemon Burst Mode hits the scene (Lilamon does put in work, but she's overshadowed by the others very quickly).

I've only seen Savers subbed, so I can't say. Aside from the glory of Citramon, I don't know what all is different between the two.

Savers isn't making any sense.

Ikuto speaks in slightly broken Japanese, because he was abandoned as an infant and has the whole "wild child" thing going on. That would all make sense and everything...except...all the Digimon, with whom he was raised, can speak with perfect Japanese? Like really what even are they going for with this. Weird.

At the risk of sounding stupid, because I've been out of the Digimon game since 04 aired and I stopped watching, who is that white dragon type Digimon with the goggles and red cape that traipsing about in Tri?

That's Huckmon, a relatively new character (Created in 2012), so no worries.
He has a not so well kept secret behind him that I want to know if you're interested in knowing now of just finding out as Tri continues along.

Folks, I just got word that Mr. Wada who was THE voice of Digimon songs has passed away.
He was 42.
Cause of death was cancer.
May he rest in peace and my condolences.

Man that suck he was one of my fav artist in music world I loved all Digimon theme cause of him and it saddens me to hear this my he rest in piece.

Woah, i really don't know what to say about this... I mean i knew he had cancer but i didn't expect him to go so soon.

Tragedy.

Since Netflix has been putting out anime for a while now, would you guys think that Netflix and Saban (They hold the rights to Digimon in the US) could dub Tri on Netflix? Tri is made for the older fans and I think keeping uncut on Netflix would be a good idea. I don't see it being release in theaters for a limited release. As long if they get the original English voice cast back, I will be happy.

Would it really make sense to get the original cast? They are all teens in high school now, so it would be strange for characters like Tai and Izzy to still sound like they were 10-12.

This. Yes. This, oh my gods, yes this.

More importantly would they even be interested in coming back?

Well, I assume most would be. Especially since money is involved, and everyone loves money.

Nostalgia. Fans of the original dub would hate it if the characters got recast. It would be like if Dragon Ball Super got a brand new English voice for Goku, Vegeta, etc.

Joshua Seth said that he would love to return back as Tai in Tri if Saban asks him back.

http://didyouknowanime.net/post/1100...-and-mind-with

That's not an apt comparison. Super takes place, like, 30 minutes after the end of Z. Tri takes place what seems to be 3 years after 02.

We still got season three of fusion left to get dubbed and tai show up at the end for that so I just hope saban get Seth back for few line tai has along with tentomon original va

I always thought Xros Wars 03 was a separate season altogether?

Original yes season three of xros wars was ment to adventure 02 of xros wars as far as I know Toei decoded to drop that

Ah. Because I went to kissanime.com and watched a couple of episodes of the Xros 03 season.

For me I still class to as season 7 of Digimon

You can. And whatever company that brings it over to America, if that happens, will probably do the same.

Sorry for he double post.

Did y'all know that there are two minds of Digicode?! A Japanese and an English.
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/DigiCode

Super is set four years after Majin Buu, not 30 minutes after DBZ. For the English voice actors returning for Tri, I could Tom Fahn returning as Augmon. I remember that he is still voice acting. Lex Lang and Kirk Thornton should be easy to get back too for Wargreymon, MetalGarurumon and Omegamon (Omnimon).

Episode 37 of Savers was fuckin' gross.

Was that the Belphemon episode with the different animation studio?

Yeah.

All the characters look like they come from a gross hentai.

All the girls butts are noticeably popping out and detailed. I'll never forget that.
Also, one of the women with the PawnChessmon has their shirt just...Disappear. Solely to show more cleavage beneath her jacket.
I really hated it because it detracted from the otherwise nice fight against Belphemon.

Yeah, Kurosaki gets it pretty bad. From this to this...

It's pretty offputting and gross, and yeah, it really detracted from what could have been a solid episode.

Though even putting that aside. Ikuto's Ultimate Evolution episode isn't even slightly about him, like everything else it's more about Masaru than anyone. Fucking typical. This show has a really terminal case of the excessive-lead-focus.