Zi-O had both W and Kuuga Arms so we might get two Genomes.

Buddy Up! Nose Tip! Pierce! Slash! Kaijiki! The Waves will be the ones to decide how this ends!

https://youtu.be/US3RHD6fVGA

DX Neo Batta Vi-Stamp (Amazon JP item)
1650 Yen. December 28 release.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/o/ASIN/B09N9BG8LD/pick-item-22

https://scontent.fbdo9-1.fna.fbcdn.n...35&oe=61BA3A3D

I'm liking how they are just throwing in a couple of Vistamps that make sense thematically just to confuse people on if the Rider and animal combos mean anything.

The fact that Zero-One's vistamp reuses the animal from a previous one also confuses things further.

Actually, it's existence as a "Neo Vistamp" could have some implications. What if something happens to the regular Batta Vistamp, like it gets destroyed? Granted this is all just speculation as we know nothing of the Vistamps in all actuality beyond their function.

Here's how I see in Revice so far with the Drivers & riders.

• Libera Driver: Phase 1. A prototype of the Revice Driver which was scrapped but brought into light anew.
• Revice Driver: Phase 1. The completed belt after the Libera Driver. Buddy Up system.
• Demons Driver: Phase 2. Matches the Rebuddy system of the Libera Driver used to change a body part into a weapon.
• TwoSidriver: Phase 1&2. Switching between human & demon.

Let's just hope there'll be the Phase 3 that matches that matches the Deadmans for a new rider. It won't be Olteca, Julio and the newbies that joins. Perhaps George, Aguilera or a newcomer who joins the fray who adapted into Phase 3 already.

I have two guesses.

1. Neo Vistamp is just a way for Bandai to accommodate another Batta stamp to convince kids to buy said new Batta stamp without having it be compared to the first Batta stamp. Basically, "But mom, this stamp is different!" but with extra steps.

2. This Vistamp comes from the future via the old man(prolly George) and these are what Vistamps are called in the future.

Probably both!

What is Hiromi's demon anyway? It would be pretty amusing if that robotic spider on his shoulder turned out to be his demon (in a new form).

And all this talk about Phases reminded me of Kamen Rider Evol's phases. Nothing deep there, just a passing thought. Although it would be pretty hilarious if Phase 4 Deadmans can generate black holes.

Maybe this sound ridiculous. I really want Yujiro Wakabayashi is resurrected as ghost because Ghost Vi-Stamp power :D

I think if Yujiro Wakabayashi become a ghost, he can see invisible demons :D

I wish Hiromi had his own demon, but sadly thats not it. The belt serves as an artificial host to allow someone to transform. If it was hiromis demon, he would be the host and couldve used the revi driver or a different user based system, but since thats not the case, he has to use this work around.

..... And I just received my Batta Vistamp dammit.

Well he accidentally created the Rex Deadman, but IDK if that counts as his demon.

The Neo Batta Vistamp is actually mostly a newer mold. It is a slight retool of the Batta Symbol, but the background is Zero-One's Face. The Neo Batta Symbol is actually a remold of the original instead of being a redeco. The Left "Wing' of the symbol is actually in a different location. And there is part of the Left "Wing" right behind the head.
According to the Wiki, the announcement for the Neo Batta Vistamp is "Hiyaku o chikatta! Kibō to natta! Neo Batta! Revice ja 〜 naito!"
Though it appears that the Zero-One=Giraffe Rumor was just a rumor and not true at all. At least this makes more sense.
I think the reason why they chose this Zero One-based Form is that otherwise, it would be kind of confusing and would be kind of weird for Saber to see Revice looking like him.
Though, this gives signs that the same animal could be the basis for multiple Vistamps.
Also, I bet the reason why some of the animals don't make sense is because of 1 reason that is besides any attempt by me or others to make connections between the Vistamps and their Rider basis: The Limited Amount of Real Animal Motifs of the established Riders.

I mean, Kuuga was based upon a Stag Beetle, Agito was based upon a European Dragon combined with a Stag Beetle, Ryuki was based upon a Chinese Dragon combined with a Medieval Knight, Faiz, specifically Takumi, was the Wolf Orphonoch, and had motifs of the Greek Letter Phi and a Shark, while as Delta, he combined an Asian Ant Mantis with the Greek Letter Delta, Blade combined a Hercules Beetle and the Spades Suit, Hibiki combined an Oni, a Drum, and Kumadori, Kabuto was based upon a Japanese Rhinoceros Beetle, Den-O was based upon a combination of a Bullet Train, the Railroad, a Clock, and Fairy Tales, Kiva combined a Bat, a Vampire, a King, and, a bit weirder, a Jack-O-Lantern, and Decade combined a Barcode, the Number 10, a Decade, and an Italian Striped Bug. That's just from Heisei Phase 1. Not that much variety in motifs. Most of them are based upon Bugs, and having another Series with every Rider having Bug Motifs like Kabuto wouldn't be that interesting. So, out of necessity, they had to create the Vistamps trying to connect an animal to each Rider that isn't as simple as basing them all from Bugs. Seriously, just from the Riders I named, two were based upon Stag Beetles, five had motifs based upon characters from Mythology/Fiction, four were based upon Beetles, and then there were those added Motifs like Barcodes, Greek Letters, Trains, etc. Seriously, how do you link a Barcode to an Animal besides Tigers or Zebras? How do you link Trains and Fairy Tales to an Animal? How do you link the Letter W or the Cyclone and Joker Memories to an Animal? How do you link an Astronaut/Rocket to an Animal? How do you link most of the Kamen Riders from the Heisei Era, the Showa Era, and/or the Reiwa Era to an Animal when most Kamen Riders are based upon Grasshoppers or other Bugs? You'd have to get creative with the Motifs you link to each Rider.

Also, the fact that Revi's Color scheme doesn't change was likely because they wanted to keep using the Revi Rex Genome Undersuit. Otherwise, creating 10 Unique Undersuits for the 10 Main Revi Forms (Rex-Brachio) would be overly expensive. Seriously, any cosplayer (which I am not) would know that making 10 Unique Costumes that would likely only get used so often would get expensive. Also, just using Revi's Undersuit, but adding other colors on the other forms would get pretty ugly, considering that the undersuit is Bright Pink (not Magenta) and Light Blue. Dark Green, Bright Pink, and Light Blue could clash, but especially Orange, Dark Blue, Light Blue and Bright Pink. Some of those Colors Schemes would just not work. Also, using the Vice Kong Genome Suit as the Basis for the Brachio Genome Suit is also clever as otherwise, how often would they use Kong Genome?

I don't think that was ever in question. It quite much is a newer stamp, but still Hopper-based.

Yes, this is also info we've pieced together once we saw at least the first 3 Genome form changes.



We wouldn't want another Saber, do we? With 100 undersuits being made to accommodate every single book Touma puts in his belt :lol

The reason the Genomes all use the same undersuit for Revi is because while it's not obvious or called out by the fiction, they are essentially 'armours' like Gaim, Ghost, Ex-Aid etc for the action figure gimmick

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0qoiginq71.png

As always, you’re overanalysing again. They used Zero-One probably because he was the first Reiwa Rider, and it likely has nothing to do with ‘Touma being confused because Ikki used the Kajiki ViStamp to look like Sabre’, as that plot development has already happened - in the Fateful Sengoku Movie Battle, they had Kouta use Wizard Arms in front of Haruto with no problem (and even had Kosuke lampshade it).

Furthermore, while the lack of any connection between the Heisei Riders and their ViStamps is likely caused, in part, by the fact that a lot of them share similar animal themes, it is highly unlikely that they chose not to do solely insects ‘because Kabuto already had’, since Revice is the fourth time in the last eleven years that ‘animals’ have been the gimmick theme, after OOO, Build, and Zero-One - and, even more egregiously, the third time we’ve done ‘theme 1 + unrelated theme 2 = new form’ in the last twelve years, after W and Build. It’s also the third time we’ve had ‘Legend Riders’ as the theme in the last twelve years, for that matter - after Decade and Zi-O.
All this to say, of course, that and Bandai aren’t concerned about redundancy as long as it sells…and based on the fact that they’re reusing ‘animals’ this soon after Zero-One, I’d say they’re quite confident that either it will sell, or the Legend Rider element will draw people in anyway. They chose animals that they thought would sell, and paired them with Riders they thought would sell. It really is that simple.

Beyond Generations merch:
https://twitter.com/toeionlinestore/...664326144?s=20

Liberal Driver Review
https://youtu.be/uoTT92YzVKc

Ah that makes sense I do wish they change colors but I get why they didn't(CGI suits would look terrible, I do think the suits that have similar colorschemes to the rider in question look good see Megeladon)

Gaim literally used Wizard Arms in his Movie War with Wizard. And Drive Arms in Full Throttle.

Hell, Ex-Aid used each other's legend forms in Dr Pac-Man.

However, Ex-Aid using Ghost's Legend Rider Form and Ghost using Ex-Aid's Form was likely because they already had the Eyecon from their previous Crossover when Ex-Aid gave Ghost that Energy Item which became the Ex-Aid Eyecon.
Gaim using Wizard Arms and Drive Arms isn't the same as they aren't directly based upon the look. What I meant is that Revi's Forms look more like the Legend Riders than, say, Gaim's Rider Arms Forms or Ex-Aid's Legend Rider Gamers Forms.

Though, I have just realized that the Revice Forms are somewhat in the middle between Decade's Kamen Ride Forms and Zi-O's Legend RiderArmor Forms. They look more like the Legend Riders than the RiderArmors, but they have their own twist which isn't like the Kamen Ride Forms.

That doesn?t matter. Wizard Arms literally appears first as a giant Wizard head and then opens up into the armour (which does, indeed, look like Wizard?s) and Beast even outright says ?hey, just like you!? or something to that effect, to Haruto immediately after the Wizard Armour Part appears.
You can?t just ignore facts to suit your own narrative when there are several cases that disprove your point.
As I said, Zero-One was likely chosen simply as the first Reiwa Rider + the only main rider since the Showa Riders to be solely based on a grasshopper in his base form - presumably for some triple Hopper Rider Kick with Ichihgo and Century.

Do you think we'll get Kajiki Genome in the movie? Since the latest trailer showed us Neo Batta, I'm concerned it won't appear.

I hope it does. But this image of the Rider Diner of the Neo Batta and Condol Stamp being used, is not quite helping with the situation.

Though, the Condol might just be them using it differently, or Toei is really gonna show 3 movie forms in one movie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGngf-1U...jpg&name=large

I bet the use of the Condol stamp there is him stamping it on his body to give him wings

Condor, Kujaku...

Is there a Taka Vistamp?

No. But there is an Eagle one. Lol.

Yeeeehaw!!!!

https://www.tokunation.com/attachmen...1&d=1639736489

Does everyone have a bad feeling next arc will cause the Igarashi family to split?

And do you sensing a repeated pattern with these 4 arcs that have been repeated for quite some time ?

I get the family's gone through crazy stuff, but the fact that the split would have to be pointed out is because none of that has caused a split that lasted, if any at all.

Just passing through again, but I don't think that they would have a "Family-splitting arc" unless it debuts a new form for Revi that is a Berserk Form, which, ehh, I don't think so.

But, I think that I will be doing something. Here is a list of all Vistamps currently known for the Legend Riders Vistamps:
Kuuga: Lion
Agito: Unknown
Ryuki: Unknown
Faiz: Ptera
Blade: Unknown
Hibiki: Unknown
Kabuto: Unknown
Den-O: Mammoth
Kiva: Unknown
Decade: Megalodon
Double: Eagle
OOO: Unknown
Fourze: Kong
Wizard: Unknown
Gaim: Kamakiri
Drive: Unknown
Ghost: Unknown
Ex-Aid: Jackal
Build: Supposedly Kangaroo
Zi-O: Brachio
Zero-One: Neo Batta
Saber: Kajiki
1: Batta
V3: Turtle
X: Scorpion
Amazon: Mogura
ZX: Kujaku

So, we still don't know for sure the identities of the Stronger, Skyrider, Super-1, Black, Black RX, J, ZO, Shin, Agito, Ryuki, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Kiva, OOO, Wizard, Drive, and Ghost Vistamps.

Though, I am a bit hesitant of saying that the Build Vistamp is the Kangaroo Vistamp considering we have the Kangaroo Proto Vistamp and it clearly isn't Red and Blue. This is why I am a bit hesitant of calling that the Build Vistamp would be based upon the Kangaroo.
Oh, I forgot to mention the Condor Joker Vistamp. But Joker isn't a Main Rider so it technically doesn't count.

The Proto Kong Vistamp was orange and blue and I don't see any of those being used as Fourze's primary color scheme. I wouldn't recommend basing a Vistamp's possible corresponding Rider based on the stamp's color scheme.

EDIT: Wait, I just remembered Fourze Rocket States which IS orange and blue. Huh, bit of a weird choice there. Eh, we'll just see how this goes in the future.

Blue is also the colour of Fourze's driver. I imagine that choice was made to make it more visually distinct

In fact, there is a physical similarity between Fourze Rocket States and Revi Kong Genome in that they both feature 2 of the Modules which appear on both arms (Fourze's Twin Rocket Modules and Revi's Kong Form Fists.) Which makes it closer to Fourze Rocket States.

Anyways, it would be orange and white if it was truly completely accurate to the show, which Orange and White isn't as striking as Blue and Orange.

Both images courtesy of the Kamen Rider Wiki.

The images of Fourze and Revi side-by-side finally makes me realize why Kong Genome felt off to me: Kong Genome doesn't have the little 'rocket fins' sticking out of Fourze's head! It just feels very strange to me.

It's not Build Rabbit, it's Build Kangaroo!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...FMUcAMfwHT.png

Took me a oment to realize Vice is in the pouch.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHLhTDtV...jpg&name=large

First of all I want that Vice plushie secondly I think we can officially put to rest the idea of trying to figure out the Legend Rider on the Vistamp based off it's color scheme.